Woj: Paul George informs Pacers he plans to leave them in 2018 free agency, prefers Lakers.

[RR9]

Best case for return is probably Boston right?

Nope, it's LA. Maybe Randle and a pick.

Clarkson + filler at best. Maybe a super future 1st when PG is in LA. Only way for IND to get some value is if a confident contender is willing to rent PG.

Danny waited, and now might be the time to strike...

[Andre Roberstan]

Had a conversation yesterday with a Pacer fan and a 76er mod who when I said he openly wanted to go to the lakers that he's never said that and that it was just his agent trying to pressure the Pacers front o. Would love to see what they have to say now

No, you said that he had said he wanted to go there. He had not. Now he has.

Don't gloat.

[Jojothewhale]

If the offer is Randle+, someone might beat that as a rental. That's really nothing even if the Lakers have no motivation to give more.

[yanuary]

Best case for return is probably Boston right?

Nope, it's LA. Maybe Randle and a pick.

Too much. The Lakers aren't giving the Pacers a nickel.

Pacers are totally screwed.

It was about #28 pick i guess

[RR9]

This is incredibly courteous of PG13. As a fan of a team that's had a star walk for nothing in FA, at least getting some assets for him will help the Pacers in the long-term.

Enh, not really because he keeps harping on the Lakers thing which is destroying his trade value. Why would any team give up a lot knowing he's likely just a rental and gonna walk to LAl after this year? Why would the Lakers trade anything now to bring him in a year early when they can just sign him for nothing but cap-space next year? They'll be lucky to get even middling assets at this point I think. I agree it's still better than giving all appearences of staying and then up and bailing as you (and we, LMA) have suffered, but not a ton better.

A team that trades for him and they win a lot (finals, conference finals) gives him a sense of how close he can get...I can see that changing his mind about LA.

[Andre Roberstan]

Where is basketballwacko (or something like that) ??

I may be a little extra touchy about this because of the recent history of my team, but let the Pacers fans alone. Calling people out makes the board extra contentious, and it's contentious enough as it is.

[blind prophet]

Best case for return is probably Boston right?

Nope, it's LA. Maybe Randle and a pick.

You think the Lakers would really give youth away when they could try to get him in FA later?

[ckchen]

Now what for the Pacers? What's the next step? The ball is in their court at this point, he put them on notice.

Personally as a Laker fan I say wait till 2018 and not make a trade for him before then. Save those assets to bring in a player that PG wants to play with.

Not really. I mean, if you trade for PG now and still have the cap space you were going to use to lure him in at the end of the season, they can legitimately use that space for a different player, and then re-sign PG afterwards when they're over the cap because they'll own his Bird Rights. That's a pretty solid justification to make some kind of deal for this year vs. waiting. Not to mention the certainty vs. the possibility that another team somehow sweeps in and steals him or he changes his mind over the course of a year.

[Andre Roberstan]

This is incredibly courteous of PG13. As a fan of a team that's had a star walk for nothing in FA, at least getting some assets for him will help the Pacers in the long-term.

Enh, not really because he keeps harping on the Lakers thing which is destroying his trade value. Why would any team give up a lot knowing he's likely just a rental and gonna walk to LAl after this year? Why would the Lakers trade anything now to bring him in a year early when they can just sign him for nothing but cap-space next year? They'll be lucky to get even middling assets at this point I think. I agree it's still better than giving all appearences of staying and then up and bailing as you (and we, LMA) have suffered, but not a ton better.

A team that trades for him and they win a lot (finals, conference finals) gives him a sense of how close he can get...I can see that changing his mind about LA.

Yeah. Does anyone remember Love to the Lakers?

[Commodor]

Tristan Thompson for PG straight up.

Definitely not fair good value but TT and turner could work together well.

But I think Portland may offer their 3 1sts for him. Would have to move crabbe or someone, but if they can get him to see what a year of lillard-McCollum-nurk is like they may have a chance.

[blind prophet]

Horrible news for Pacer fans.

The Kings got less than they could of if they had acted sooner with Cuz, but at least it wasn't at the last moment.

With PG, they are in a bad spot now with concern to leverage.

I know it sucks fellas, but when you are not close to a ring, and your franchise player situation doesn't look promising.

Sell high, before its too late.

It's ALREADY too late

The deadline was the time last season.

But with this announced right before the draft, man it hurts.

[pacers33granger]

Had a conversation yesterday with a Pacer fan and a 76er mod who when I said he openly wanted to go to the lakers that he's never said that and that it was just his agent trying to pressure the Pacers front o. Would love to see what they have to say now

So him coming out after your statement and, for the first time, being open about wanting to leave makes your previous statement right?

[mademan]

Me thinks we'll have a Cousins like trade this year, though the amount of teams that'll trade for him is probably small. I dont see Boston trading top tier assets for him only to be in the non-enviable position of being forced to re-sign both he and IT next summer; LA shouldnt give any assets when they can just wait and other teams with assets (Philly/Denver) would be crazy to trade for him without a guarantee

I'm calling a Love-George-maybe 3rd team trade where PG goes to the Cavs and Lebron convinces him to stay

[NoZoLakers]

Even if he prefers LAL, if I'm a win now team I make the move and hope all the W's are enough to keep him around. He's a in the top 10 player mix or just out of it. Worth the risk IMO, just because guys like this don't grow on trees

If said team isn't clev or gsw, it won't matter

[damecurry]

This is incredibly courteous of PG13. As a fan of a team that's had a star walk for nothing in FA, at least getting some assets for him will help the Pacers in the long-term.

Enh, not really because he keeps harping on the Lakers thing which is destroying his trade value. Why would any team give up a lot knowing he's likely just a rental and gonna walk to LAl after this year? Why would the Lakers trade anything now to bring him in a year early when they can just sign him for nothing but cap-space next year? They'll be lucky to get even middling assets at this point I think. I agree it's still better than giving all appearences of staying and then up and bailing as you (and we, LMA) have suffered, but not a ton better.

A team that trades for him and they win a lot (finals, conference finals) gives him a sense of how close he can get...I can see that changing his mind about LA.

Sure but that's a massive risk for that team to take, I mean they have to approach it as presumably a rental with a chance of resigning him if things go right. That has some value and I wouldn't be shocked for like a single solid asset or a couple middling ones are moved but short of someone just going crazy and pulling a Magic/Ibaka move I don't think the Pacers will get anything remotely resembling his actual value like they could have if they'd dealt him before the trade deadline last year. So I guess it's nice of him to say something, better late than never, but it's pretty much too late, if he did this last february they would be in a position to benefit but at this point and with all the lakers chatter thrown on there he's really not doing them much of a favor lol.

[stitches]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18959003/zach-lowe-paul-george-future-indiana-pacers

George would love to play with hometown boy Gordon Hayward, according to sources

George is also best friends with Hill. I wonder if the Jazz have a chance in hell to get him in Utah and convince him to stay long-term next to Hayward and Hill?

[Green_teamer]

Had a conversation yesterday with a Pacer fan and a 76er mod who when I said he openly wanted to go to the lakers that he's never said that and that it was just his agent trying to pressure the Pacers front o. Would love to see what they have to say now

So him coming out after your statement and, for the first time, being open about wanting to leave makes your previous statement right?

He had made it be known through his agent. It was no secret although if I was a fan of the team I would of tried to ignore it too.

[dakomish23]

Even if he prefers LAL, if I'm a win now team I make the move and hope all the W's are enough to keep him around. He's a in the top 10 player mix or just out of it. Worth the risk IMO, just because guys like this don't grow on trees

If said team isn't clev or gsw, it won't matter

Disagree. Put this guy on SAS LAC BOS TOR and you're in the mix

[dakomish23]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18959003/zach-lowe-paul-george-future-indiana-pacers

George would love to play with hometown boy Gordon Hayward, according to sources

George is also best friends with Hill. I wonder if the Jazz have a chance in hell to get him in Utah and convince him to stay long-term next to Hayward and Hill?

Where's that Favors Hood thread?

[yanuary]

Where is basketballwacko (or something like that) ??

I may be a little extra touchy about this because of the recent history of my team, but let the Pacers fans alone. Calling people out makes the board extra contentious, and it's contentious enough as it is.

You probably dont remember how he and other 2-3 Pacers fans were rude for Lakers fans in PG13 discussion (since WojBomb in february). Its not about entire Pacers fanbase - most of them were normal and we had discussion with arguments.

So yes i wait for basketballwacko2 reaction