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Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz

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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1261 » by Slacktard » Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:33 pm

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We'll see if true. Maybe Hinkie is yet running the show

If that sac pick has protection then this is an absolute massacre of a trade. Currently it's pretty fair, probably sixers favored.


Hope it is #1 protected.

Lakers win lotto next year. Sixers keep pick
Kings win lotto in '19. Sixers keep pick
Celtics get a pick in the 20's from the Sixers sometime next decade
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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1262 » by eagereyez » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:08 pm

TTP wrote:Love the deal we made. Also love that we can look back on this absurd thread (viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1573184) where that ridiculous Homer was demanding 3+Simmons and making rational discussion impossible. What a shocker that he turned out to be wrong.

Someone else in the T&T board was demanding Simmons + 3 + LAL pick. I wish I could visit their reality for just one moment to see what it's like.
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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1263 » by LloydFree » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:15 pm

MC3 wrote:Congrats.

For what? We just gave away a future lottery pick to move up and take the 3rd best player in this draft.
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Actually if you ask me which Center I want for my perfect championship caliber team, I will chose Asik hands down
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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1264 » by yourewrong » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:16 pm

wow, nice value for the Sixers getting a talent like Fultz for that little. I wonder who the odd man out between Fultz, Embiid, and Simmons will eventually be, since they fit together horribly
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Post#1265 » by 76thBearCub » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:20 pm

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I love this picture. That's a freaking squad right there.
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Post#1266 » by eyeatoma » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:22 pm

yourewrong wrote:wow, nice value for the Sixers getting a talent like Fultz for that little. I wonder who the odd man out between Fultz, Embiid, and Simmons will eventually be, since they fit together horribly


ROFL what???

They fit together perfectly!
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Post#1267 » by Unbreakable99 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:23 pm

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Post#1268 » by yourewrong » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:23 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
yourewrong wrote:wow, nice value for the Sixers getting a talent like Fultz for that little. I wonder who the odd man out between Fultz, Embiid, and Simmons will eventually be, since they fit together horribly


ROFL what???

They fit together perfectly!

how? Simmons and Fultz both need the ball to thrive and Embiid had a 36% usg rate as a rookie. There's only one basketball.
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Post#1269 » by nitocobola » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:28 pm

magic doing his work before the draft.
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Post#1270 » by MC3 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:29 pm

LloydFree wrote:
MC3 wrote:Congrats.

For what? We just gave away a future lottery pick to move up and take the 3rd best player in this draft.

You got player you wanted, you got best overall prospect in the draft. You also completed your rebuilding core with getting most talented 2014, 2016 and 2017 prospect and picking some nice prospects like Saric and McConnell in meantime. You are done with tanking. And now it's time for growth. This deal was huge for your franchise. And put yourself in position to be something and someone in the league.

Truly congrats.
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Post#1271 » by XtremeDunkz » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:31 pm

Man some people on this board are constantly miserable smh.
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Nemesis21 wrote:It is absolutely hilarious hearing people still say Embiid has superstar potential.The guy is one injury away from being Greg Oden.:lol: Except Oden manged to play over 100 games in the NBA, I don't think Embiid will play more.
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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1272 » by Sixteen » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:32 pm

MC3 wrote:
LloydFree wrote:
MC3 wrote:Congrats.

For what? We just gave away a future lottery pick to move up and take the 3rd best player in this draft.

You got player you wanted, you got best overall prospect in the draft. You also completed your rebuilding core with getting most talented 2014, 2016 and 2017 prospect and picking some nice prospects like Saric and McConnell in meantime. You are done with tanking. And now it's time for growth. This deal was huge for your franchise. And put yourself in position to be something and someone in the league.

Truly congrats.


Thanks, and well said. Even if you deny that Fultz isn't the best player in the draft, you can not deny the fit.
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Post#1273 » by yourewrong » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:34 pm

Phila Tough wrote:
MC3 wrote:
LloydFree wrote:For what? We just gave away a future lottery pick to move up and take the 3rd best player in this draft.

You got player you wanted, you got best overall prospect in the draft. You also completed your rebuilding core with getting most talented 2014, 2016 and 2017 prospect and picking some nice prospects like Saric and McConnell in meantime. You are done with tanking. And now it's time for growth. This deal was huge for your franchise. And put yourself in position to be something and someone in the league.

Truly congrats.


Thanks, and well said. Even if you deny that Fultz isn't the best player in the draft, you can not deny the fit.

the fit is the biggest issue though. Fultz will likely be better than DWade or Harden but he fits poorly with Ben as they both absolutely need the ball in their hands to be successful and both are wasted playing off ball. Then factor in Embiid whose usage was historic last year, and the fit just doesn't work. The lesser of Fultz and Simmons will eventually need to go.

if only there was a 3pt shooting, elite cutting guard in this class with higher upside than Fultz in this draft.... oh wait, there is one, and Boston may get him at 3+ a top 5 pick next year!
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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1274 » by LloydFree » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:35 pm

Phila Tough wrote:
MC3 wrote:
LloydFree wrote:For what? We just gave away a future lottery pick to move up and take the 3rd best player in this draft.

You got player you wanted, you got best overall prospect in the draft. You also completed your rebuilding core with getting most talented 2014, 2016 and 2017 prospect and picking some nice prospects like Saric and McConnell in meantime. You are done with tanking. And now it's time for growth. This deal was huge for your franchise. And put yourself in position to be something and someone in the league.

Truly congrats.


Thanks, and well said. Even if you deny that Fultz isn't the best player in the draft, you can not deny the fit.

The fit is fine. That's the only thing redeemable about the deal.
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Actually if you ask me which Center I want for my perfect championship caliber team, I will chose Asik hands down
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Post#1275 » by 76thBearCub » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:37 pm

LloydFree wrote:
MC3 wrote:Congrats.

For what? We just gave away a future lottery pick to move up and take the 3rd best player in this draft.


Dude I like reading a lot of your posts. Please don't do this all summer though :D
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Post#1276 » by freshie2 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:37 pm

If Jackson is what everyone is bitter about, they should have traded out of the draft all together...if there is a prospect with major question marks, he's it.
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Post#1277 » by Ericb5 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:37 pm

yourewrong wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
yourewrong wrote:wow, nice value for the Sixers getting a talent like Fultz for that little. I wonder who the odd man out between Fultz, Embiid, and Simmons will eventually be, since they fit together horribly


ROFL what???

They fit together perfectly!

how? Simmons and Fultz both need the ball to thrive and Embiid had a 36% usg rate as a rookie. There's only one basketball.


First off, Embiid's usage rate was higher than normal due to the minutes restriction. He probably will never have that usage rate again in his career.

Fultz and Simmons fit perfectly precisely because Fultz DOESN'T need the ball in his hands to be effective. He clearly can shoot and play off the ball. That's the beauty of this.

In addition, when the game is on the line, and we really need someone to get their own shot, he can do that better than Simmons can. Like Irving in Cleveland, you sometimes need to give the ball to someone and get out of the way, and he will get the ball a lot in those situations.

Both Simmons and Fultz will be behind Embiid in priority on both offense and defense anyway. Even though Simmons will have the ball in his hands more than Fultz, the primary goal will be getting Embiid the ball, when in the half court, and the other guys will be playing off of him.

Fultz is very capable of moving without the ball, and spacing the court, and Simmons is going to be one of the best passers in the league, and will get him the ball in situations where he can be effective.

The mix of the three of them together is really the primary selling point of this deal in my mind.

I thought that Fultz was the 3rd best prospect in the draft, but there is no doubt that he fits Simmons and Embiid perfectly.


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Post#1278 » by yourewrong » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:39 pm

Ericb5 wrote:
yourewrong wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
ROFL what???

They fit together perfectly!

how? Simmons and Fultz both need the ball to thrive and Embiid had a 36% usg rate as a rookie. There's only one basketball.


First off, Embiid's usage rate was higher than normal due to the minutes restriction. He probably will never have that usage rate again in his career.

Fultz and Simmons fit perfectly precisely because Fultz DOESN'T need the ball in his hands to be effective. He clearly can shoot and play off the ball. That's the beauty of this.

In addition, when the game is on the line, and we really needs someone to get their own shot, he can do that better than Simmons can. Like Irving in Cleveland, you sometimes need to give the ball to someone and get out of the way, and he will get the ball a lot in those situations.

Both Simmons and Fultz will be behind Embiid in priority on both offense and defense too. Even though Simmons will have the ball in his hands more than Fultz, the primary goal will be getting Embiid the ball, when in the half court, and the other guys will be playing off of him.

Fultz is very capable of moving without the ball, and spacing the court, and Simmons is going to be one of the best passers in the league, and will get him the ball in situations where he can be effective.

The mix of the three of them together is really the primary selling point of this deal in my mind.

I thought that Fultz was the 3rd best prospect in the draft, but there is no doubt that he fits Simmons and Embiid perfectly.


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Even if Fultz can play of the ball (which is questionable considering he's an iffy set shooter at best), it's clearly not making use of his skillset. Take Ball, who is in another league entirely as an off ball player if Ben is truly the guy.
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Post#1279 » by GoCeltics123 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:41 pm

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We'll see if true. Maybe Hinkie is yet running the show

If that sac pick has protection then this is an absolute massacre of a trade. Currently it's pretty fair, probably sixers favored.


Hope it is #1 protected.

Pretty sure it could be reverse protections too, like if the SAC pick isn't top 10 then it becomes PHI 21 or something.
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Post#1280 » by Sixteen » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:41 pm

yourewrong wrote:
Phila Tough wrote:
MC3 wrote:You got player you wanted, you got best overall prospect in the draft. You also completed your rebuilding core with getting most talented 2014, 2016 and 2017 prospect and picking some nice prospects like Saric and McConnell in meantime. You are done with tanking. And now it's time for growth. This deal was huge for your franchise. And put yourself in position to be something and someone in the league.

Truly congrats.


Thanks, and well said. Even if you deny that Fultz isn't the best player in the draft, you can not deny the fit.

the fit is the biggest issue though. Fultz will likely be better than DWade or Harden but he fits poorly with Ben as they both absolutely need the ball in their hands to be successful and both are wasted playing off ball. Then factor in Embiid whose usage was historic last year, and the fit just doesn't work. The lesser of Fultz and Simmons will eventually need to go.


:o

Well for starters, he fills a position of dire need for us in PG. He also projects to be a good pick and roll threat which is great because Embiid is pretty much the ideal Roll/Pop big man to pair him with. There is absolutely nothing wrong with taking the ball out of one playmakers hand and putting it in another's.

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