All things Draft Pick. #3

[ConstableGeneva]

Agree with this 100%. I like your plan (mainly because of the tax implications of the alternative). It all depends on which non-top-tier FAs we chase for frontcourt help.

It's not an overwhelming list, but I think several could be an upgrade over what we had (our Amir island real estate pricing be damned!). Not as thorough as I did before, but: Zbo, Taj, Haslem, Nene (injured?), Ibaka. I'm sure there are others. All seem worthy of less than the max, that we could squeeze in if we do that before resigning KO & making the PG trade. Rudy Gay as a small ball 4 even. Again, 1+1 overpays, so get what you can out of them this year and they're super tradeable or cuttable.

James Johnson was another one. Dedmon. Though, both of them probably want real deals, not the 1+1 business.

James Johnson and Gibson/Dedmon would be nice additions for sure.
I wonder if there's enough cap space left for a PG extension apart from one 1+1 vet signing. And whether George would agree to such an arrangement. Too lazy to do the math hehe. He's not gonna be eligible for the DVPE anyway even if he makes All-NBA in the upcoming season. I think Ainge will be able to gauge how serious George is about going to LA or teaming up with Lebron when they talk with his agent.

[Tyakack]

This will be the second time lebron keeps us from getting a star player if they get PG... Unreal.

[djFan71]

It's not an overwhelming list, but I think several could be an upgrade over what we had (our Amir island real estate pricing be damned!). Not as thorough as I did before, but: Zbo, Taj, Haslem, Nene (injured?), Ibaka. I'm sure there are others. All seem worthy of less than the max, that we could squeeze in if we do that before resigning KO & making the PG trade. Rudy Gay as a small ball 4 even. Again, 1+1 overpays, so get what you can out of them this year and they're super tradeable or cuttable.

James Johnson was another one. Dedmon. Though, both of them probably want real deals, not the 1+1 business.

James Johnson and Gibson/Dedmon would be nice additions for sure.
I wonder if there's enough cap space left for a PG extension apart from one 1+1 vet signing. And whether George would agree to such an arrangement. Too lazy to do the math hehe. He's not gonna be eligible for the DVPE anyway even if he makes All-NBA in the upcoming season. I think Ainge will be able to gauge how serious George is about going to LA or teaming up with Lebron when they talk with his agent.

I was too lazy to do a list, much less math...
Honestly, I would be shocked if he would agree to anything like that. You gotta go in knowing he's probably 70/30 leaving, but hope you can sway him and/or the one year ride was worth it.

[ConstableGeneva]

James Johnson was another one. Dedmon. Though, both of them probably want real deals, not the 1+1 business.

James Johnson and Gibson/Dedmon would be nice additions for sure.
I wonder if there's enough cap space left for a PG extension apart from one 1+1 vet signing. And whether George would agree to such an arrangement. Too lazy to do the math hehe. He's not gonna be eligible for the DVPE anyway even if he makes All-NBA in the upcoming season. I think Ainge will be able to gauge how serious George is about going to LA or teaming up with Lebron when they talk with his agent.

I was too lazy to do a list, much less math...
Honestly, I would be shocked if he would agree to anything like that. You gotta go in knowing he's probably 70/30 leaving, but hope you can sway him and/or the one year ride was worth it.

I don't think he really wants to play in LA, unless Lebron goes there in 2018. If you beat the Cavs in ECF next season with him leading the team, I'm almost certain he'll stay. The trick now is getting him here. I just knew when they hugged after the Cavs swept the Pacers that Lebron was already recruiting him. Maybe as soon as KD decided to join the Dubs, PG was already in Lebron's mind as contingency.

[Smog]

It's a crazy gamble to spend high assets on Paul George if he won't commit to staying. Think of how that deal would look in retrospect, if he leaves after a year and we've given Indy Jaylen or Jayson Tatum for five years, plus whoever else.

[Fidel Sarcasmo]

It's a crazy gamble to spend high assets on Paul George if he won't commit to staying. Think of how that deal would look in retrospect, if he leaves after a year and we've given Indy Jaylen or Jayson Tatum for five years, plus whoever else.

It'll never happen. We are not going to mortgage the long term for the short. The only way PG13 or Butler comes to the Celtics is a trade for existing roster parts that aren't our prized possessions.

[Kolkmania]

It's a crazy gamble to spend high assets on Paul George if he won't commit to staying. Think of how that deal would look in retrospect, if he leaves after a year and we've given Indy Jaylen or Jayson Tatum for five years, plus whoever else.

Indy's not getting a top 3 pick for a one-year rental. That said, I'd definitely trade him for a combination of Memphis, LAC, Boston picks (plus a rotation player if they're interested). I know he likes Los Angeles, but I'd dare him to leave a contender to play for a **** team in his prime.

[CelticsLV]

If Love is on the table then more has to go from Pacers to Cavs.

IND: Love, Shumpert, Frye

CLE: George, T. Young, Ellis

Frye didn't play almost at all against Warriors so Cavs get a more versatile player in Young. Pacers get rid of some useless longterm salary and can flip Love for some great assets.

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

There isn't any doubt (for me anyway) cavs are landing George. He will be traded in some capacity for Love. I think George will resign with the cavs, as well Lebron, and they will keep their finals appearances going for the next 5 years. I know George wants LA but he also knows 4 or 5 finals appearances trump that.

Also I still have a fear that Ainge is going to get even more cute with this pick and take Fox, Smith or Monk.

[Almeida]

In a maneuver that will become official today, the C’s have sent the No. 1 overall pick to Philadelphia for the No. 3 pick and either the Lakers’ first-rounder next year if it falls in the 2-5 range or the Sacramento pick in 2019, though a source Sunday said that choice may be protected if it’s No. 1 overall.

So, if this turns out to be true, there's a chance we just traded down and don't actually get anything in return?

[GregB]

In a maneuver that will become official today, the C’s have sent the No. 1 overall pick to Philadelphia for the No. 3 pick and either the Lakers’ first-rounder next year if it falls in the 2-5 range or the Sacramento pick in 2019, though a source Sunday said that choice may be protected if it’s No. 1 overall.

So, if this turns out to be true, there's a chance we just traded down and don't actually get anything in return?

Their is no chance we don't get anything. I am sure this is where the part about a Philly pick comes in. But I think the pick conveys this year or next.

[165bows]

The link for the above:

Read on Twitter

Bit of a buzzkill, though not likely to come into play.

[The Corey's]

So of danny wants Tatum does he draft Jackson and if Tatum is sitting there at 5 trade for it and pick 10?

Having 2 top 10 picks increases dannys ability to hit on one of them

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

The link for the above:

Read on Twitter

Bit of a buzzkill, though not likely to come into play.

I have been waiting for Ainge to trade some of these picks in for years and it hasn't happened so I am not expecting much. This trade was simply made because Ainge didn't like Fultz.

[Fidel Sarcasmo]

I think the key to another fall back trade lays with who Phoenix wants to select with the 4th pick. If the Kings really do covet D'Aaron Fox and they have intel that Phoenix will pick him at the 4, then the field would be set for the Celtics to swap the 3rd for the 5th & 9th pick. If the Celtics are torn between Tatum and Jackson, they will definitely be able to land one of the two with the 5th pick assuming Phoenix no longer has the ability to select Fox. It would be assumed that Phoenix would then select either Tatum or Jackson. So this 3 for 5/9 swap looks really good. Plus another guy the Celtics love could fall to 9.

[DK-All Day]

I think the key to another fall back trade lays with who Phoenix wants to select with the 4th pick. If the Kings really do covet D'Aaron Fox and they have intel that Phoenix will pick him at the 4, then the field would be set for the Celtics to swap the 3rd for the 5th & 9th pick. If the Celtics are torn between Tatum and Jackson, they will definitely be able to land one of the two with the 5th pick assuming Phoenix no longer has the ability to select Fox. It would be assumed that Phoenix would then select either Tatum or Jackson. So this 3 for 5/9 swap looks really good. Plus another guy the Celtics love could fall to 9.

Kings have 5 and 10.

[jfs1000d]

5 and 10 is a lot for 3. We would have to kick back another first or something.


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[mbsnmisc]

5 and 10 is a lot for 3. We would have to kick back another first or something.


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How about 5 + WCS ?

[Patsfan1081]

So of danny wants Tatum does he draft Jackson and if Tatum is sitting there at 5 trade for it and pick 10?

Having 2 top 10 picks increases dannys ability to hit on one of them

He he had either in for a visit? I also can't see the third pick getting both 5 and 10

[165bows]

I think the key to another fall back trade lays with who Phoenix wants to select with the 4th pick. If the Kings really do covet D'Aaron Fox and they have intel that Phoenix will pick him at the 4, then the field would be set for the Celtics to swap the 3rd for the 5th & 9th pick. If the Celtics are torn between Tatum and Jackson, they will definitely be able to land one of the two with the 5th pick assuming Phoenix no longer has the ability to select Fox. It would be assumed that Phoenix would then select either Tatum or Jackson. So this 3 for 5/9 swap looks really good. Plus another guy the Celtics love could fall to 9.

Agree Phoenix is big. They will draft along the same lines as Boston.

SAC at 5 we can assume they will make the wrong pick.