Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz

[Sixersftw]

I'm not a college basketball fan, but I'm an avid reader of the draft form here, Draftexpress , and other forms of media that deal with draft prospects. Through the last majority of the year Fultz was considered the best player in this draft and consensus number 1 pick. The last couple of days I've a lot more negative stuff about Fultz, he has a low motor, not a winner, not a great athlete, etc. How much does this have to do with him being a Sixer now, or are they legit concerns?

Didn't hear as much about all of that when he wasn't a Sixer, so a lot, imo.

There are concerns, it's just that they're now being blown out of proportion because Ainge (who is an awful drafter) decided to trade the pick, or at least that's the excuse being given. His motor on defense is something that he does have to consciously improve, because he sometimes didn't follow through on his assignments when they got by him. He's supposedly not a winner because his Washington team didn't win much, but that wasn't because of him. He's not an elite athlete, but he is a great athlete, imo. He's bigger for PG, quick, and has good hang time, just lacks the explosiveness that would make him elite.

I agree. This is Ainge engaging his media machine after the initial grades of the trade were, lets say, mixed from a Celtics standpoint. I would watch for glowing puff pieces on JJ or Tatum in the days leading up to the draft.

[sixers78]

I'm not a college basketball fan, but I'm an avid reader of the draft form here, Draftexpress , and other forms of media that deal with draft prospects. Through the last majority of the year Fultz was considered the best player in this draft and consensus number 1 pick. The last couple of days I've a lot more negative stuff about Fultz, he has a low motor, not a winner, not a great athlete, etc. How much does this have to do with him being a Sixer now, or are they legit concerns?

Coincidence. Only thing I question is how much of a leader he really is.

[sixerswillrule]

Almost there!

[kriss73]

Almost there!

Wiz already said they will match anyone, but it would be a really exciting starting-5.
The second unit is scary too.

[TeamHigh]

The Wiz will almost certainly match, but there's zero reason you don't throw a max out there anyway, if only to force the Wizards to pay as much as possible.

There's almost no harm in throwing the max at guys like Porter or Hayward. It's a shoot for the moon scenario, but on the 0.1% they pay off, you have your squad for the next 4+ years.

[CoreyGallagher]

I'm not a college basketball fan, but I'm an avid reader of the draft form here, Draftexpress , and other forms of media that deal with draft prospects. Through the last majority of the year Fultz was considered the best player in this draft and consensus number 1 pick. The last couple of days I've a lot more negative stuff about Fultz, he has a low motor, not a winner, not a great athlete, etc. How much does this have to do with him being a Sixer now, or are they legit concerns?

Coincidence. Only thing I question is how much of a leader he really is.

Does he have to be a leader right now, though? He just turned 19 three weeks ago and he's clearly coming into this situation as the third fiddle to Embiid and Simmons. I'd give him time.

[shawn_hemp]

The biggest concern I have with Fultz and pretty much always have had is that he played a single season in the Pac-12 when basically nobody played defense and his team was still horrible.

You see the nice stats and him getting to the basket pretty easily but what you don't realize is that Washington is already down by 15 points.

I don't think this is a guarantee that he won't be good, far from it. I think Fultz will be a solid player. But I don't think he will make any All-NBA teams, and he certainly isn't someone I would have traded up for.

His athleticism is a lot less impressive than other prospects, and if he doesn't shoot well in the NBA we are **** because I don't see his defense being overly good either. Not that he's a complete liability, but he probably won't be shutting anyone down either.

I'm trying to stay positive here, because he is a good player, but idk guys, I just have a feeling we might regret this trade looking back.

Not that it's going to sink our ship or anything, but I think we made a mistake trading for Fultz at #1, and I don't think Ainge was ever going to take him anyway

At one point I put Monk ahead of Fultz on my big board and the amount of pitchforks that came out was ridiculous. I think Monk becomes a better defender than Fultz, I've said this all year.

But hey, who knows right?

Passing on Malik Monk while giving up a lotto pick to draft Fultz is going to look pretty dumb 3-4 years from now IMO

[MR28]

The reasoning in that post is terrible.

[sixers78]

Washington lacked talent and coaching. You gotta stop lookin at box scores and forming an opinion on a prospect.

[CoreyGallagher]

He was productive and efficient, that's like blaming Embiid for our losses earlier in the season, there's only so much a player can do.

[Ben]

At one point I put Monk ahead of Fultz on my big board and the amount of pitchforks that came out was ridiculous. I think Monk becomes a better defender than Fultz, I've said this all year.

But hey, who knows right?

Passing on Malik Monk while giving up a lotto pick to draft Fultz is going to look pretty dumb 3-4 years from now IMO

If Malik Monk had been the pick we would be hearing all about how Monk is a 6'2" shooting guard with gator arms. If you're scared, buy a dog.

[sixers78]

I'm not a college basketball fan, but I'm an avid reader of the draft form here, Draftexpress , and other forms of media that deal with draft prospects. Through the last majority of the year Fultz was considered the best player in this draft and consensus number 1 pick. The last couple of days I've a lot more negative stuff about Fultz, he has a low motor, not a winner, not a great athlete, etc. How much does this have to do with him being a Sixer now, or are they legit concerns?

Coincidence. Only thing I question is how much of a leader he really is.

Does he have to be a leader right now, though? He just turned 19 three weeks ago and he's clearly coming into this situation as the third fiddle to Embiid and Simmons. I'd give him time.

Right now for the Sixers? No. But at Washington he didn't show any signs of being a leader to me. Over time can he become more of a leader? Certainly. I liken him to Kyrie Irving in the leadership department. Took Kyrie awhile before you saw some improvement in this area.

[sixers78]

My thing is you said if Fultz isn't hitting shots we are screwed. But Fultz is a much better ball handler and finisher at the rim than Monk. So if Monk isn't hitting shots then what are we? Monk defense has been poor. So if he's not hitting shots and playing poor defense then what are we?

Hey if you like Monk that's ok but the knocks you attatch to Fultz make me scratch my head when you look at what Monk is capable of.

[shawn_hemp]

Uhh, maybe you guys arent getting what Im trying to say?

I said Fultz was a good player, but noth worth moving up to get.

I said that playing defense was entirely optional in the Pac 12 this year, where most of your Fultz highlights come from

I said that he lacked elite athleticism, which he does. He doesnt blow by defenders, he coasts by as they basically were letting him score so the game would end faster anyway.

I get it, nobody wants to hear anything Anti-Fultz right now because nobody wants to entertain the thought that this guy wasnt worth the pick but Im gonna go ahead and stick to my guns here:

Markelle Fultz was not worth trading a pick for. I wouldnt have even taken him #1 if it was our own pick

[shawn_hemp]

At one point I put Monk ahead of Fultz on my big board and the amount of pitchforks that came out was ridiculous. I think Monk becomes a better defender than Fultz, I've said this all year.

But hey, who knows right?

Passing on Malik Monk while giving up a lotto pick to draft Fultz is going to look pretty dumb 3-4 years from now IMO

If Malik Monk had been the pick we would be hearing all about how Monk is a 6'2" shooting guard with gator arms. If you're scared, buy a dog.

I dont think you understand how much Ive defended Monk over the year

[BullyKing]

I get it, nobody wants to hear anything Anti-Fultz right now because nobody wants to entertain the thought that this guy wasnt worth the pick but Im gonna go ahead and stick to my guns here:

Or maybe they just disagree with you and are sticking with their own opinions on Fultz notwithstanding what "shawn_hemp" on RealGM message board thinks.

[shawn_hemp]

My thing is you said if Fultz isn't hitting shots we are screwed. But Fultz is a much better ball handler and finisher at the rim than Monk. So if Monk isn't hitting shots then what are we? Monk defense has been poor. So if he's not hitting shots and playing poor defense then what are we?

Hey if you like Monk that's ok but the knocks you attatch to Fultz make me scratch my head when you look at what Monk is capable of.

Im probably the only one on RealGm who thinks that Monk is capable of being a good defender when put on PGs.

Which is what he would have done here

[BigSleep333]

My thing is you said if Fultz isn't hitting shots we are screwed. But Fultz is a much better ball handler and finisher at the rim than Monk. So if Monk isn't hitting shots then what are we? Monk defense has been poor. So if he's not hitting shots and playing poor defense then what are we?

Hey if you like Monk that's ok but the knocks you attatch to Fultz make me scratch my head when you look at what Monk is capable of.

Im probably the only one on RealGm who thinks that Monk is capable of being a good defender when put on PGs.

Which is what he would have done here

im really really concerned with fultz' d too, but if you think monk is capable to defend at an at least avg level, you have to give it fultz too. both have the "tools" to not be a liability on d. they just lacked defensive awareness and/or effort.

[Chris76]

My thing is you said if Fultz isn't hitting shots we are screwed. But Fultz is a much better ball handler and finisher at the rim than Monk. So if Monk isn't hitting shots then what are we? Monk defense has been poor. So if he's not hitting shots and playing poor defense then what are we?

Hey if you like Monk that's ok but the knocks you attatch to Fultz make me scratch my head when you look at what Monk is capable of.

Im probably the only one on RealGm who thinks that Monk is capable of being a good defender when put on PGs.

Which is what he would have done here

Monk is a great prospect, but Fultz is a great fit, too. Fultz and Simmons will be incredible leaders. They both probe defenses to get the best shot, Tony Parker like. I can see both getting above 7 assists a game.

[TTP]

My thing is you said if Fultz isn't hitting shots we are screwed. But Fultz is a much better ball handler and finisher at the rim than Monk. So if Monk isn't hitting shots then what are we? Monk defense has been poor. So if he's not hitting shots and playing poor defense then what are we?

Hey if you like Monk that's ok but the knocks you attatch to Fultz make me scratch my head when you look at what Monk is capable of.

Im probably the only one on RealGm who thinks that Monk is capable of being a good defender when put on PGs.

Which is what he would have done here

The problem is that good teams will just screen you into mismatches, so Monk would need to be able to handle himself on more than just PGs. Fultz is long enough that he should eventually be able to do that.