All things Draft Pick. #3

Banks2Pierce · Post #1961 » by **Banks2Pierce** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:41 pm

Gomes3PC wrote:Again, that's basically Tobias Harris you're talking about.

Tatum projects as a better shooter, passer, and defender than Harris did. Probably his downside.

ajones9219 · Post #1962 » by **ajones9219** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:43 pm

The Corey's wrote:
CrowderKeg wrote:IT'S OFFICIAL.

"The future first round pick will be the Los Angeles Lakers’ 2018 pick if it’s within the No. 2 to No. 5 range of the 2018 draft. If it is not, the Celtics will instead receive either Sacramento’s or Philadelphia’s first round pick in 2019, whichever is more favorable. However, if either of those 2019 picks result in the first overall selection, Boston will instead receive the other first round pick."

So if sac gets first overall pick and Sixers make the playoffs danny **** misses here. Badly.

Migujt as well root for the pick to convert this season

Even if Sacremento has the overall worst record there's still a 75% chance they don't get the 1st pick

GoCeltics123 · Post #1963 » by **GoCeltics123** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:43 pm

So the official deal in simple form is:

Boston receives: #3, LAL18 (2-5), if not 2-5 then the better of SAC/PHI19 (unless either of the picks is #1, if one is #1 then the Celtics receive the other pick)

Philly receives: #1

KamikazeK · Post #1964 » by **KamikazeK** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:43 pm

CrowderKeg wrote:IT'S OFFICIAL.

"The future first round pick will be the Los Angeles Lakers’ 2018 pick if it’s within the No. 2 to No. 5 range of the 2018 draft. If it is not, the Celtics will instead receive either Sacramento’s or Philadelphia’s first round pick in 2019, whichever is more favorable. However, if either of those 2019 picks result in the first overall selection, Boston will instead receive the other first round pick."

Not a fan of this deal at all. Can't believe you give up the #1 without even getting back a fair shot at a #1 in return. After failing to make a move earlier because teams didn't want #1 protected picks, it looks like danny got bent over on this one. If we don't land a high pick from this deal and boston fails to win a chip moving forward, then Ainge is going to look like a complete moron who sabotaged his own rebuild.

The Corey's · Post #1965 » by **The Corey's** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:43 pm

fallguy wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
fallguy wrote:
You realize nothing you're saying is logical right?

Go away rookie.

Dannyt wouldn't pick Simmons my man. Deal with it.

I tried, guys.

In a round about way you just said Simmons is better than fultz.

So I'm glad you're ok with giving a stud like Simmons fultz regardless of what danny thinks.

I'm sure when those two are hitting their stride you can look back and hold your head up high because it was the right move at the time all so we fan get the guy we wanted anyway and added the Sixers 20th pick in 2019.

I'm proud of you for coming in here with that logical opinion. It really put me in my place.

The Corey's · Post #1966 » by **The Corey's** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:44 pm

ajones9219 wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
CrowderKeg wrote:IT'S OFFICIAL.

"The future first round pick will be the Los Angeles Lakers’ 2018 pick if it’s within the No. 2 to No. 5 range of the 2018 draft. If it is not, the Celtics will instead receive either Sacramento’s or Philadelphia’s first round pick in 2019, whichever is more favorable. However, if either of those 2019 picks result in the first overall selection, Boston will instead receive the other first round pick."

So if sac gets first overall pick and Sixers make the playoffs danny **** misses here. Badly.

Migujt as well root for the pick to convert this season

Even if Sacremento has the overall worst record there's still a 75% chance they don't get the 1st pick

That's one way to look at it.

London2Boston · Post #1967 » by **London2Boston** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:44 pm

CrowderKeg wrote:IT'S OFFICIAL.

"The future first round pick will be the Los Angeles Lakers’ 2018 pick if it’s within the No. 2 to No. 5 range of the 2018 draft. If it is not, the Celtics will instead receive either Sacramento’s or Philadelphia’s first round pick in 2019, whichever is more favorable. However, if either of those 2019 picks result in the first overall selection, Boston will instead receive the other first round pick."

Terrible.

If PG gets traded to LA and Sac wins the lotto in 2019 then you've basically swapped #1 for #3 for the kicks. Unreal how it's Philly who should have been the aggressor for the trade and yet have protections all over the place and will still have pieces coming in to add to their set core.

Also it takes you out of the Zion sweepstakes essentially too and leaves you praying to at least have #2 for Bagley.

derblitzenator · Post #1968 » by **derblitzenator** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:44 pm

DK-All Day wrote:
chrisab123 wrote:
CelticsLV wrote:
That's a good *** trade if you ask me. Especially if Fultz wasn't Celtics guy.

Deal still sucks. 2019 is Zion and everyone else...

Marvin Bagley will be in that draft class also.

Bagley's the sure fire #1 right now. Williamson is a great prospect, but there are question marks about his position.

Stadium5 · Post #1969 » by **Stadium5** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:45 pm

SAC PICK IS #1 OVERALL PROTECTED TOO?

**** MFER AINGE YOU FKCUING **********

fallguy · Post #1970 » by **fallguy** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:45 pm

The Corey's wrote:
fallguy wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
Go away rookie.

Dannyt wouldn't pick Simmons my man. Deal with it.

I tried, guys.

In a round about way you just said Simmons is better than fultz.

So I'm glad you're ok with giving a stud like Simmons fultz regardless of what danny thinks.

I'm sure when those two are hitting their stride you can look back and hold your head up high because it was the right move at the time all so we fan get the guy we wanted anyway and added the Sixers 20th pick in 2019.

I'm proud of you for coming in here with that logical opinion. It really put me in my place.

You're completely incoherent.

Go back to shouting into the wind.

DK-All Day · Post #1971 » by **DK-All Day** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:45 pm

London2Boston wrote:
CrowderKeg wrote:IT'S OFFICIAL.

"The future first round pick will be the Los Angeles Lakers’ 2018 pick if it’s within the No. 2 to No. 5 range of the 2018 draft. If it is not, the Celtics will instead receive either Sacramento’s or Philadelphia’s first round pick in 2019, whichever is more favorable. However, if either of those 2019 picks result in the first overall selection, Boston will instead receive the other first round pick."

Terrible.

If PG gets traded to LA and Sac wins the lotto in 2019 then you've basically swapped #1 for #3 for the kicks. Unreal how it's Philly who should have been the aggressor for the trade and yet have protections all over the place and will still have pieces coming in to add to their set core.

Ainge got bent over for the first time. By BC of all people.

Shocking.

fallguy · Post #1972 » by **fallguy** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:46 pm

Stadium5 wrote:SAC PICK IS #1 OVERALL PROTECTED TOO?

**** MFER AINGE YOU FKCUING **********

Don't worry. It will be New Orleans' problem. Not ours.

XtremeDunkz · Post #1973 » by **XtremeDunkz** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:46 pm

I am honestly shocked Danny accepted this trade. There is a realistic chance that this does not net the Celtics a premium asset. If the Lakers improve decently this season (no reason to tank, maybe George?) They could be a 6-10 pick easily.

Then you move to 2019 and that gives Sac 2 full years to improve. They have a decent young core with 2 more picks coming in and cap space. It is not too far fetched to think this might only net Boston a pick around 10-15 in 2019. That would be very bad value.

Jakeopp · Post #1974 » by **Jakeopp** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:46 pm

London2Boston wrote:
CrowderKeg wrote:IT'S OFFICIAL.

"The future first round pick will be the Los Angeles Lakers’ 2018 pick if it’s within the No. 2 to No. 5 range of the 2018 draft. If it is not, the Celtics will instead receive either Sacramento’s or Philadelphia’s first round pick in 2019, whichever is more favorable. However, if either of those 2019 picks result in the first overall selection, Boston will instead receive the other first round pick."

Terrible.

If PG gets traded to LA and Sac wins the lotto in 2019 then you've basically swapped #1 for #3 for the kicks. Unreal how it's Philly who should have been the aggressor for the trade and yet have protections all over the place and will still have pieces coming in to add to their set core.

Also it takes you out of the Zion sweepstakes essentially too.

Yeah, the #1 pick protections kill this trade imo.

The Corey's · Post #1975 » by **The Corey's** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:46 pm

fallguy wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
fallguy wrote:
I tried, guys.

In a round about way you just said Simmons is better than fultz.

So I'm glad you're ok with giving a stud like Simmons fultz regardless of what danny thinks.

I'm sure when those two are hitting their stride you can look back and hold your head up high because it was the right move at the time all so we fan get the guy we wanted anyway and added the Sixers 20th pick in 2019.

I'm proud of you for coming in here with that logical opinion. It really put me in my place.

You're completely incoherent.

Go back to shouting into the wind.

You are trying too hard. It's cute.

The Corey's · Post #1976 » by **The Corey's** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:47 pm

fallguy wrote:
Stadium5 wrote:SAC PICK IS #1 OVERALL PROTECTED TOO?

**** MFER AINGE YOU FKCUING **********

Don't worry. It will be New Orleans' problem. Not ours.

Did you say I was incoherent? Hahahahha wtf

ajones9219 · Post #1977 » by **ajones9219** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:47 pm

Very solid trade if you think Jackson/Taytum is the best guy in the draft

Post #1978 » by **Slartibartfast** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:48 pm

Banks2Pierce wrote:
Gomes3PC wrote:He makes up for those athletic shortcomings with smoothness/skill in college. That advantage will dissipate against NBA vets like PJ Tucker, Jae Crowder, etc.

His length may be Melo-ish, though. Measured at 6'8" 2 years ago and with the same measurements as Carmelo's pre-draft camp. Melo had the broad shoulders and more strength so Tatum is not the same prospect, but there's a really good groundwork laid for a kid this young with that size, shot, and smoothness.

Problem is Melo was much more explosive and dynamic. He could blow-by people with his first-step even if he wasn't a big-time athlete in space.

I think Tatum is closer to TJ Warren athletically.

Green_teamer · Post #1979 » by **Green_teamer** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:49 pm

The Corey's wrote:
fallguy wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
Go away rookie.

Dannyt wouldn't pick Simmons my man. Deal with it.

I tried, guys.

In a round about way you just said Simmons is better than fultz.

So I'm glad you're ok with giving a stud like Simmons fultz regardless of what danny thinks.

I'm sure when those two are hitting their stride you can look back and hold your head up high because it was the right move at the time all so we fan get the guy we wanted anyway and added the Sixers 20th pick in 2019.

I'm proud of you for coming in here with that logical opinion. It really put me in my place.

Philly has potential to be great sure but at this point what do they have?

Embiid is going into his 4th year and he's played something like 31 games. Simmons was just injures for a whole season. Fultz looks good but there are some questions about his knee. Saric looks to be good not great and now we've kind of capped them out as far as new draft picks go unless they hit # 1 over these few drafts. Okafor looks like a bust

They have potential sure but let's see them stay healthy for a full season before we crown them future champions

derblitzenator · Post #1980 » by **derblitzenator** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:49 pm

Stadium5 wrote:SAC PICK IS #1 OVERALL PROTECTED TOO?

**** MFER AINGE YOU FKCUING **********

The statistical probability of it ending up as the #1 is extremely low. Sacramento will probably improve at least a little bit. If it falls to 2019, I fully expect the pick to be in the 6-10 range.