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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#961 » by Mr B » Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:40 pm

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Pinkyring wrote:Looks like Donovan mitchell will be in today so i wonder how that goes, also today could be franks last game if they lose so he may come over in time to workout for a team or 2


I think the Mavs may be anticipating a trade if DSJ and Ntilikina are both gone. Detroit at 12 might be willing to move up to take Monk. Then at 12 Mitchell becomes a legit option.


Detroit is a bad trade partner for us. We don't need Drummond since we have Noel, and everyone else on their team is pretty sorry (Jackson/Johnson) or a free agent (KCP). Unless they want to throw in a first for 2018, I'd rather just stay where we are and pick BPA


Yea I would think any trade with Detroit would be for next years 1st when they then use to trade back up in the 1st round this year.
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#962 » by Jinra » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:27 pm

I am really liking everything I am seeing about this Donovan Mitchell kid. He looks like one of those gems that will explode on the scene next year.
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#963 » by daoneandonly » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:58 pm

Jinra wrote:I am really liking everything I am seeing about this Donovan Mitchell kid. He looks like one of those gems that will explode on the scene next year.


But he's a tweener, a SG in a PG's body, those types rarely ever amount to much in the NBA other than decent role player.
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#965 » by Devassa » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:05 pm

Jinra wrote:I am really liking everything I am seeing about this Donovan Mitchell kid. He looks like one of those gems that will explode on the scene next year.


No interest in having him here with the 9th pick. I wouldn't be opposed to it if we traded down to #12, but there are definitely 9 (maybe even 10 or 11) guys I would rather have than him at the moment.
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Post#966 » by daoneandonly » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:06 pm

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Guess I'm skipping the draft which I was looking forward to for months, thanks Cuban and Nelson for pissing away yet another offseason by getting Dante Beaubois.
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Post#967 » by Devassa » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:08 pm

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Are we planning on doing a pick swap? That's the only way I think we get Frank here. He will be gone at 8 otherwise
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#968 » by daoneandonly » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:11 pm

Interesting read: http://www.nbadraft.net/2017-nba-draft-top-5-lists

Lists out the top 5 prospects in various categories, passing, handles, scoring, athleticism, Frank Nkinnia can only be found in one grouping, #1 highest risk. Translation, he sucks.
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Post#970 » by dirkforpres » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:41 pm

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It's always flattering when players want to be here... I have no issues selecting this guy at 9, but the talent pool is so deep that I don't think there is any player worth trading up for. If he's there at 9, select him. Otherwise, pick Smith or Isaac or Monk (whoever is left)
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Post#971 » by daoneandonly » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:49 pm

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It's always flattering when players want to be here... I have no issues selecting this guy at 9, but the talent pool is so deep that I don't think there is any player worth trading up for. If he's there at 9, select him. Otherwise, pick Smith or Isaac or Monk (whoever is left)


What if somehow both he and Smith were there? Would you be okay if we picked him over Smith?
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#972 » by Mr B » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:58 pm

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Jinra wrote:I am really liking everything I am seeing about this Donovan Mitchell kid. He looks like one of those gems that will explode on the scene next year.


But he's a tweener, a SG in a PG's body, those types rarely ever amount to much in the NBA other than decent role player.


Jason Terry?
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#973 » by daoneandonly » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:02 pm

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Jinra wrote:I am really liking everything I am seeing about this Donovan Mitchell kid. He looks like one of those gems that will explode on the scene next year.


But he's a tweener, a SG in a PG's body, those types rarely ever amount to much in the NBA other than decent role player.


Jason Terry?


I consider him a decent role player, which to me is not someone you select in the top 10, but maybe the teens-twenties, especially in a stacked draft class.
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#974 » by Pinkyring » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:11 pm

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Jinra wrote:I am really liking everything I am seeing about this Donovan Mitchell kid. He looks like one of those gems that will explode on the scene next year.


But he's a tweener, a SG in a PG's body, those types rarely ever amount to much in the NBA other than decent role player.


Jason Terry?

Dwayne wade russell westbrook George hill eric bledsoe etc etc etc
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#975 » by daoneandonly » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:14 pm

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But he's a tweener, a SG in a PG's body, those types rarely ever amount to much in the NBA other than decent role player.


Jason Terry?

Dwayne wade russell westbrook George hill eric bledsoe etc etc etc


Dwayne Wade is 6'5'' and a straight up 2, Westbrook averages double digit assists, meaning not a tweener, he's a point. And Bledsoe can play the lead guard, but not for a playoff team.

And if he use our top 10 pick on a guy like George Hill, yeah, i consider that a failure.
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#976 » by Mr B » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:17 pm

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But he's a tweener, a SG in a PG's body, those types rarely ever amount to much in the NBA other than decent role player.


Jason Terry?

Dwayne wade russell westbrook George hill eric bledsoe etc etc etc


Exactly. Ideally you would want your SG to be in the 6'5"-6'7" range but NBA history is littered with shorter SG's who have been very successful. Mitchell also has a huge wing span and plays solid defense. Now I would take DSJ, Ntilikina, or Monk over him but all three of those guys are gone and the Mavs couldn't trade down I would still be ok with taking Mitchell at 9.
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#977 » by daoneandonly » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:21 pm

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Jason Terry?

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Exactly. Ideally you would want your SG to be in the 6'5"-6'7" range but NBA history is littered with shorter SG's who have been very successful. Mitchell also has a huge wing span and plays solid defense. Now I would take DSJ, Ntilikina, or Monk over him but all three of those guys are gone and the Mavs couldn't trade down I would still be ok with taking Mitchell at 9.


If all 3 of those guys are gone, that means Issac, Fox, or Tatum would be on the board, you take that over Mitchell anyway even if Tatum and Barnes are redundant.
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#978 » by Pinkyring » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:21 pm

daoneandonly wrote:
Pinkyring wrote:
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Jason Terry?

Dwayne wade russell westbrook George hill eric bledsoe etc etc etc


Dwayne Wade is 6'5'' and a straight up 2, Westbrook averages double digit assists, meaning not a tweener, he's a point. And Bledsoe can play the lead guard, but not for a playoff team.

And if he use our top 10 pick on a guy like George Hill, yeah, i consider that a failure.

Wade id 6'4 they're an inch apart so 6'4 is a straight up 2 but 6'3 is a tweener got it. Double digit assist doesnt make u a pg westbrook has a high usage he isnt a pg . I would continue but there really isnt any point as i doubt you've watched 5 minutes of any prospects you've trashed
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#979 » by daoneandonly » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:24 pm

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Pinkyring wrote:Dwayne wade russell westbrook George hill eric bledsoe etc etc etc


Dwayne Wade is 6'5'' and a straight up 2, Westbrook averages double digit assists, meaning not a tweener, he's a point. And Bledsoe can play the lead guard, but not for a playoff team.

And if he use our top 10 pick on a guy like George Hill, yeah, i consider that a failure.

Wade id 6'4 they're an inch apart so 6'4 is a straight up 2 but 6'3 is a tweener got it. Double digit assist doesnt make u a pg westbrook has a high usage he isnt a pg . I would continue but there really isnt any point as i doubt you've watched 5 minutes of any prospects you've trashed


Ok name other 6'3'' and under tweeners then that are worthy of being a top 10 pick, cause I can't. Jaryd Bayless, leo barbosa, Randy Foye, all of which are at most, decent role players. But again you're a petulant child who just resorts to "you don't watch basketball" whenever someoen disagrees with you. But you're also the guy that wants to give teague close to 20 mill a year, so, yeah, you know your stuff.
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Re: Mavericks 2017 Draft #9 

Post#980 » by Pinkyring » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:30 pm

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Pinkyring wrote:Dwayne wade russell westbrook George hill eric bledsoe etc etc etc


Dwayne Wade is 6'5'' and a straight up 2, Westbrook averages double digit assists, meaning not a tweener, he's a point. And Bledsoe can play the lead guard, but not for a playoff team.

And if he use our top 10 pick on a guy like George Hill, yeah, i consider that a failure.

Wade id 6'4 they're an inch apart so 6'4 is a straight up 2 but 6'3 is a tweener got it. Double digit assist doesnt make u a pg westbrook has a high usage he isnt a pg . I would continue but there really isnt any point as i doubt you've watched 5 minutes of any prospects you've trashed

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