2017 Draft Discussion Part 4: 3 Day Countdown!

MrMiyagi · Post #221 » by **MrMiyagi** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:01 am

Sports Science is on right now with this year's draft class

Celts17Pride · Post #222 » by **Celts17Pride** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:04 am

ray ray wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
ray ray wrote:So Josh Jackson decided not to work out for the Celtics... and the Celtics have worked out Taytum twice and now they love Jackson? Sounds to me like trying to get leverage on someone .. but who??

FYI - Celtics have been trying to get Jackson to come in for a workout but have been unsuccessful. Celtics hopeful they can get Jackson in Boston Tuesday or Wednesday.

I'm not saying that the Celtics haven't tried.. but they've gotten from we love Taytum and he's the next PPierce to now basically saying, we love JJackson..

Having said that, we cannot believe anything that comes out from teams FO. They're sending false info .

I have a feeling that after Thursday draft, the Suns will end up with Taytum. He just makes too much sense next to Book.

Ainge is a complete wildcard. The only thing I can say with any confidence is if the Celtics stay at #3 Ainge will pick one of the Top 10 ranked players.

Waylay13 · Post #223 » by **Waylay13** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:08 am

bwgood77 wrote:
RunSunRun wrote:Fox seems like an obvious smokescreen, don't think it will make the Kings nervous at this point...maybe if we were high on Fox since the beginning it might have worked.

I admit I'm starting to come around on buying into Isaac's potential high ceiling, but I still have him behind Jackson and Tatum.

For potential high ceiling, this is a good watch..shows some interesting stuff.

Watch on YouTube
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he looks good but i dont think i saw one thing that i couldnt pull out of Chriss highlights from this year. I still am not seeing the passing that would make him a positionless possibility. If Josh is gone I would have a hard time picking between tatum and isaac but right now the distance from Jackson to the next person is so great that it isnt even close.

Post #224 » by **rsavaj** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:26 am

I kinda like Smith more than Fox...

MrMiyagi · Post #225 » by **MrMiyagi** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:27 am

rsavaj wrote:I kinda like Smith more than Fox...

I kind of like Jawun Evans more than either of them.

Post #226 » by **bwgood77** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:41 am

Waylay13 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
RunSunRun wrote:Fox seems like an obvious smokescreen, don't think it will make the Kings nervous at this point...maybe if we were high on Fox since the beginning it might have worked.

I admit I'm starting to come around on buying into Isaac's potential high ceiling, but I still have him behind Jackson and Tatum.

For potential high ceiling, this is a good watch..shows some interesting stuff.

Watch on YouTube
;t=222s

he looks good but i dont think i saw one thing that i couldnt pull out of Chriss highlights from this year. I still am not seeing the passing that would make him a positionless possibility. If Josh is gone I would have a hard time picking between tatum and isaac but right now the distance from Jackson to the next person is so great that it isnt even close.

I've never advocated Isaac over Jackson but I did used to have much further separation. More things kind of concern me with Jackson. Why is he not even working out for Boston? Why didn't he come to Phx? He did work out for the Lakers though, and you get this...

Read on Twitter

Now Magic is a new GM and all but he strikes me as a guy who will tell it as it is and not keep secrets...it doesn't really matter what he says anyway considering they know Fultz is going #1 and they are #2, so they can say and do whatever.

Why did he mess with someone's car and yell whatever it is he did (I can't remember but if the girl told the truth, and it seemed pretty specific to make it up...and of course if you are so mad you are kicking a car or whatever he exactly did, I can imagine he also yelled something at the same time)....and that's all on top of the ft shooting, which usually translates to how well you shoot in the league.

Despite all that, I still put him ahead of Isaac, but not by much.

JMac1 · Post #227 » by **JMac1** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:44 am

rsavaj wrote:I kinda like Smith more than Fox...

Not with a repaired ACL.....

Post #228 » by **bwgood77** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:49 am

rsavaj wrote:I kinda like Smith more than Fox...

Without a doubt. If Smith played for Kentucky this year and Fox played for NC State, Smith would be top 3 and Fox would be fringe lottery. I fully believe that. Smith has more skill, talent, and athleticism. Fox seems like a good kid though with a big heart and tries hard. He could be good. Smith has risks, but you can't deny his talent.

darealjuice · Post #229 » by **darealjuice** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:55 am

bwgood77 wrote:
rsavaj wrote:I kinda like Smith more than Fox...

Without a doubt. If Smith played for Kentucky this year and Fox played for NC State, Smith would be top 3 and Fox would be fringe lottery. I fully believe that.

Yeah I like Smith a lot more than Fox, ACL or not. Fox doesn't move the needle for me. Don't think he's going to have the shooting or playmaking skills to be a top guard in the league.

ray ray · Post #230 » by **ray ray** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:00 am

I think it's gonna be either Josh Jackson or Jayson Taytum with Fox being the dark house...

JMac1 · Post #231 » by **JMac1** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:01 am

If the Celts are deciding between the BPA of Tatum and Jackson....I mean, why are we even discussing Isaac?

Tatum and Jackson are definitively good a something, while Isaac is a little more mysterious as a whole. I do agree that he has the most upside though.......and most upside players bust in this league. I am willing to play the odds with Jack and Tate.

JMac1 · Post #232 » by **JMac1** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:02 am

ray ray wrote:I think it's gonna be either Josh Jackson or Jayson Taytum with Fox being the dark house...

Is this a guess or solid info? If not a guess, I'm totally cool come Thursday.

jredsaz · Post #233 » by **jredsaz** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:03 am

ray ray wrote:It's gonna be either Josh Jackson or Jayson Taytum with Fox being the dark house...

They have narrowed it down in the room?

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MrMiyagi · Post #234 » by **MrMiyagi** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:04 am

JMac1 wrote:If the Celts are deciding between the BPA of Tatum and Jackson....I mean, why are we even discussing Isaac?

Tatum and Jackson are definitively good a something, while Isaac is a little more mysterious as a whole. I do agree that he has the most upside though.......and most upside players bust in this league. I am willing to play the odds with Jack and Tate.

I don't get the "I'm not sure what he's good at, but he must have the highest ceiling" line of thought.

JMac1 · Post #235 » by **JMac1** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:05 am

bwgood77 wrote:
rsavaj wrote:I kinda like Smith more than Fox...

Without a doubt. If Smith played for Kentucky this year and Fox played for NC State, Smith would be top 3 and Fox would be fringe lottery. I fully believe that. Smith has more skill, talent, and athleticism. Fox seems like a good kid though with a big heart and tries hard. He could be good. Smith has risks, but you can't deny his talent.

You are the only reason why I am not crazy like a Fox on Fox.

Your posts about him are substantiated by what I have witness and I can't ignore that. I can hope it goes away, but I can't ignore it. My pragmatism won't let me be a Fox homer.

RaisingArizona · Post #236 » by **RaisingArizona** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:08 am

McD doesn't reveal his hand so I take 0 stock in any insider talk.

JMac1 · Post #237 » by **JMac1** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:10 am

MrMiyagi wrote:
JMac1 wrote:If the Celts are deciding between the BPA of Tatum and Jackson....I mean, why are we even discussing Isaac?

Tatum and Jackson are definitively good a something, while Isaac is a little more mysterious as a whole. I do agree that he has the most upside though.......and most upside players bust in this league. I am willing to play the odds with Jack and Tate.

I don't get the "I'm not sure what he's good at, but he must have the highest ceiling" line of thought.

His measurable and basic ability to dribble and shoot and rebound and defend multiple positions at the 3.

Can he play the three? Will he improve his handles enough to get his own shot? Will he be able to bang a little? Will he be able to shoot off of the dribble?

It looks like it is a possibility, but how great?

DirtyDez · Post #238 » by **DirtyDez** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:11 am

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sunsbum · Post #239 » by **sunsbum** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:14 am

I have seen many games with JJ and his "bad handles" and that is an absolute smokebomb statement. I don't know why the Lakers are even posturing at this point.

sunsbum · Post #240 » by **sunsbum** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:15 am

If the Lakers end up with Collins I will be upset.