NBA 2017 Draft thread. 5th pick and 10th pick.

VeganKingsFan · Post #1901 » by **VeganKingsFan** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:53 am

Obviously this list isn't complete. It is only players who I can give a little evidence for. Some of the players I believe the Kings are high on are:
De'Aaron Fox: obvious one, great kid who would love to be here, great fit
Josh Jackson: hard to come by such a good wing. Would fit in great, very talented. His agent is friends with our management. He also held his workouts in Sacramento and met with the Kings.
John Collins: had 2 workouts for the team
Frank Mason III: had 2 workouts for the team
Donovan Mitchell: Great defense and athleticism with shooting potential. Good workout and interview with us. If they feel he can play PG, could be special.
Caleb Swanigan: Murdered the workout for us. Hard worker, Donovan Mitchell talked about how amazing he was in the workout.
Frank Ntilikina: We've scouted him extensively. Great kid, would fit in great.
Jordan Bell: Had great workout for us. Defense likely has them intrigued.
Other possible ones that I haven't heard proof for may be: Semi Ojeleye, Zach Collins, Justin Jackson, many others.

Post #1902 » by **City of Trees** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:03 am

Seriously tho, if this is true draft Isaac at 5 and trade 10 for Russell.

Russell
Buddy
Isaac
Skal
WCS

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benchmobbin02 · Post #1903 » by **benchmobbin02** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:04 am

perezident wrote:
A very uninspiring player to say the least. I really wish Valde would ease up on these reaches on big men. Like he's trying hard to stumble upon a Cousins replacement

What reachES?

Only one I can see. And I'm higher on Papa than most.

Post #1904 » by **City of Trees** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:11 am

benchmobbin02 wrote:
perezident wrote:
A very uninspiring player to say the least. I really wish Valde would ease up on these reaches on big men. Like he's trying hard to stumble upon a Cousins replacement

What reachES?

Only one I can see. And I'm higher on Papa than most.

Yeah the best player taken after Papa was Skal. In the moment Papa was a head scratcher but go look at how the rest of that 1st round unfolded. Not many players better than Papa to say Vlade reached.

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nolimit0820 · Post #1905 » by **nolimit0820** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:39 am

Edit: didn't see post above! Yes, CityTrees I agree. Go for whatever 3 man falls between Tatum isaac and Jackson However, if Vlade is that sold on Fox that trade could go down depending on what Phoenix does.

Chad Ford is reporting lakers are dangling Russell for another top 12 pick. My question is do you trade the #10 to get De'Angelo and pick a small forward (Tatum, isaac, Jackson At 5? Issue is for those who love Fox that dream goes away.

De'Angel
Buddy
Tatum, Jackson, Isaac
Skal
WCS

VeganKingsFan · Post #1906 » by **VeganKingsFan** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:51 am

De'Angelo Russell is inefficient, has poor character, is a poor defender, and is selfish. I definitely wouldn't give the 10th pick for him. He would be a bad influence on other young players on our team.

Post #1907 » by **codydaze** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:51 am

City of Trees wrote:Seriously tho, if this is true draft Isaac at 5 and trade 10 for Russell.

Russell
Buddy
Isaac
Skal
WCS

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I would be fine with this.

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sacking123 · Post #1908 » by **sacking123** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:55 am

nolimit0820 wrote:Edit: didn't see post above! Yes, CityTrees I agree. Go for whatever 3 man falls between Tatum isaac and Jackson However, if Vlade is that sold on Fox that trade could go down depending on what Phoenix does.

Chad Ford is reporting lakers are dangling Russell for another top 12 pick. My question is do you trade the #10 to get De'Angelo and pick a small forward (Tatum, isaac, Jackson At 5? Issue is for those who love Fox that dream goes away.

De'Angel
Buddy
Tatum, Jackson, Isaac
Skal
WCS

I'm hoping he (Vlade) would exhaust all possibilities of trading up with the #10 and not adding Buddy/Skal/Hield/Papa to get Fox before this, however I'm not suggesting this is bad either.
The question then becomes if they are willing to deal DAR for #12 what's the extra to get #10?

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dozencousins · Post #1909 » by **dozencousins** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:01 am

City of Trees wrote:Seriously tho, if this is true draft Isaac at 5 and trade 10 for Russell.

Russell
Buddy
Isaac
Skal
WCS

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I would pass on Russell .

RIPskaterdude · Post #1910 » by **RIPskaterdude** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:12 am

Only way I trade 10 for Russell is if Tatem drops to 5 and Fox is gone.

dozencousins · Post #1911 » by **dozencousins** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:17 am

I like all top 5 point guards in this draft more than Russell . I would pass on him either way .

Post #1912 » by **City of Trees** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:23 am

Russell has some question marks but If you want to walk away with a PG and SF with 5 and 10 this deal for Russell is probably the best I've seen. Hell, at 10 who's better than Russell?

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Post #1913 » by **City of Trees** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:30 am

You guys are really sleeping on Russell. Seriously. I'm actually shocked Magic would take 10-12 for him. Makes me question the validity of the report.

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RIPskaterdude · Post #1914 » by **RIPskaterdude** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:32 am

dozencousins wrote:I like all top 5 point guards in this draft more than Russell . I would pass on him either way .

What if those top 5 point guards aren't there at 10?

benchmobbin02 · Post #1915 » by **benchmobbin02** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:36 am

City of Trees wrote:You guys are really sleeping on Russell. Seriously. I'm actually shocked Magic would take 10-12 for him. Makes me question the validity of the report.

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You won't convince them of Russell. I brought his name up earlier and got blasted haha.

dozencousins · Post #1916 » by **dozencousins** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:36 am

RIPskaterdude wrote:
dozencousins wrote:I like all top 5 point guards in this draft more than Russell . I would pass on him either way .

What if those top 5 point guards aren't there at 10?

At least 1 of will be there if not 2 of .

If the Lakers are trying to trade Russell it is a great indication they are taking Ball at 2

likely Tatum at 3 , Jackson at 4 & we get Fox at 5

If not we get Jackson at 5 & either Smith Jr of Ntilikana at 10

Post #1917 » by **City of Trees** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:38 am

dozencousins wrote:
RIPskaterdude wrote:
dozencousins wrote:I like all top 5 point guards in this draft more than Russell . I would pass on him either way .

What if those top 5 point guards aren't there at 10?

At least 1 of will be there if not 2 of .

If the Lakers are trying to trade Russell it is a great indication they are taking Ball at 2

likely Tatum at 3 , Jackson at 4 & we get Fox at 5

If not we get Jackson at 5 & either Smith Jr of Ntilikana at 10

Ntilikina is the only PG who might fall to 10. Russell>Ntilikina

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Post #1918 » by **City of Trees** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:40 am

benchmobbin02 wrote:
City of Trees wrote:You guys are really sleeping on Russell. Seriously. I'm actually shocked Magic would take 10-12 for him. Makes me question the validity of the report.

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You won't convince them of Russell. I brought his name up earlier and got blasted haha.

Hahaha. I think it'll take more than 10.

For everyone else, I mean yes Fox or DSJ would be amazing but trading for Russell allows you to grab one of the Top SF's at 5. That's huge. Who do you have rated higher than Russell at 10? IMO there isn't anyone better.

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dozencousins · Post #1919 » by **dozencousins** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:44 am

City of Trees wrote:
benchmobbin02 wrote:
City of Trees wrote:You guys are really sleeping on Russell. Seriously. I'm actually shocked Magic would take 10-12 for him. Makes me question the validity of the report.

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You won't convince them of Russell. I brought his name up earlier and got blasted haha.

Hahaha. I think it'll take more than 10.

For everyone else, I mean yes Fox or DSJ would be amazing but trading for Russell allows you to grab one of the Top SF's at 5. That's huge. Who do you have rated higher than Russell at 10? IMO there isn't anyone better.

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There are a number of players I would rather have than Russell .

RIPskaterdude · Post #1920 » by **RIPskaterdude** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:46 am

dozencousins wrote:
RIPskaterdude wrote:
dozencousins wrote:I like all top 5 point guards in this draft more than Russell . I would pass on him either way .

What if those top 5 point guards aren't there at 10?

At least 1 of will be there if not 2 of .

If the Lakers are trying to trade Russell it is a great indication they are taking Ball at 2

likely Tatum at 3 , Jackson at 4 & we get Fox at 5

If not we get Jackson at 5 & either Smith Jr of Ntilikana at 10

What if Fultz goes 1
Ball 2
Fox 4
We take Tatum at 5
Smith Jr 8
Ntilikina 9 ?