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DarkHawk wrote:Phoenix Suns Insider @InsiderSuns · 5m5 minutes ago
.@WindhorstESPN reports that former Cavs GM David Griffin had the framework of a deal to send Kevin Love to Phoenix for the 4th pick.
Phoenix Suns Insider @InsiderSuns · 5m5 minutes ago
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The Cavs would then use the 4th overall pick as the centerpiece of a deal to acquire All-Star Jimmy Butler from the Bulls.
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This makes me VERY angry
DarkHawk wrote:Phoenix Suns Insider @InsiderSuns · 5m5 minutes ago
.@WindhorstESPN reports that former Cavs GM David Griffin had the framework of a deal to send Kevin Love to Phoenix for the 4th pick.
Phoenix Suns Insider @InsiderSuns · 5m5 minutes ago
Replying to @InsiderSuns
The Cavs would then use the 4th overall pick as the centerpiece of a deal to acquire All-Star Jimmy Butler from the Bulls.
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This makes me VERY angry
SlovenianDragon wrote:1UPZ wrote:SlovenianDragon wrote:
Who are Pick and Young?
umm.. Pick(s) as in draft picks...
Young as in Young Players from their team.
Teams are calling Lakers to offer to absorb Deng or Mozgov but Lakers need to give pick(s) or Young players.
WHOA, I learned so much today...
Zelaznyrules wrote:SlovenianDragon wrote:1UPZ wrote:
umm.. Pick(s) as in draft picks...
Young as in Young Players from their team.
Teams are calling Lakers to offer to absorb Deng or Mozgov but Lakers need to give pick(s) or Young players.
WHOA, I learned so much today...
Yeah, humor gets lost easily on the internets especially when we're all speed reading trying to find out what has-been we're trading all of our picks and young players for.
Villalobos wrote:If that's true, then McD is trying to outdo Orlando's GM in stupid "save my job" bs. It's time to part ways with this clown, preferably before he wastes more assets.
m1chal wrote:Is this Suns Insider any legit? This trade idea makes zero sense to me, hope it goes down in flames.
Zelaznyrules wrote:Villalobos wrote:If that's true, then McD is trying to outdo Orlando's GM in stupid "save my job" bs. It's time to part ways with this clown, preferably before he wastes more assets.
I've been insisting that Ryan's job is safe because the TV contract solves Sarver's biggest issue and Ryan no longer has to swing for the fences. I still believe that's true but if Windbag is correct, boy have I been wrong. I don't usually have a problem with admitting I'm wrong (at my age, I've had plenty of practice) but I'm going to hate it this time. Not from embarrassment but from shame. Shame that my team could do something so incredibly foolish.
BobbieL wrote:Zelaznyrules wrote:Villalobos wrote:If that's true, then McD is trying to outdo Orlando's GM in stupid "save my job" bs. It's time to part ways with this clown, preferably before he wastes more assets.
I've been insisting that Ryan's job is safe because the TV contract solves Sarver's biggest issue and Ryan no longer has to swing for the fences. I still believe that's true but if Windbag is correct, boy have I been wrong. I don't usually have a problem with admitting I'm wrong (at my age, I've had plenty of practice) but I'm going to hate it this time. Not from embarrassment but from shame. Shame that my team could do something so incredibly foolish.
This is not Ryan McDonough - this is classic Sarver getting impatient. Its a pattern. He makes one good move followed by a bunch of lousy moves. He trades away two picks - one of which could have been a PG for 3m each but than signs Marcus Banks; he lets SToudemire go but then signs a bunch of dudes. Umm, he signs both Barbosa and Diaw to big contracts but the next year has to dump Kurt Thomas with two first rounders; and now possibly this - not sure how you can say this is anybody but sarver
Zelaznyrules wrote:BobbieL wrote:Zelaznyrules wrote:
I've been insisting that Ryan's job is safe because the TV contract solves Sarver's biggest issue and Ryan no longer has to swing for the fences. I still believe that's true but if Windbag is correct, boy have I been wrong. I don't usually have a problem with admitting I'm wrong (at my age, I've had plenty of practice) but I'm going to hate it this time. Not from embarrassment but from shame. Shame that my team could do something so incredibly foolish.
This is not Ryan McDonough - this is classic Sarver getting impatient. Its a pattern. He makes one good move followed by a bunch of lousy moves. He trades away two picks - one of which could have been a PG for 3m each but than signs Marcus Banks; he lets SToudemire go but then signs a bunch of dudes. Umm, he signs both Barbosa and Diaw to big contracts but the next year has to dump Kurt Thomas with two first rounders; and now possibly this - not sure how you can say this is anybody but sarver
Maybe. Sarver was under financial pressure but he's said all the right things ever since his disastrous foray into GM role playing and his financial distress has been relieved. I can't see either one of them going this route although I can sort of understand the allure of pairing Love and Booker with Ball. It would be an exciting team that could win a lot of games, maybe a poor man's Houston. I just can't see why they'd settle for being Houston-lite. So I'm not going to indict either Sarver or McDonough on the basis of an unsupported rumor but I'm going to be royally pissed if it actually happens.
BobbieL wrote:Zelaznyrules wrote:BobbieL wrote:
This is not Ryan McDonough - this is classic Sarver getting impatient. Its a pattern. He makes one good move followed by a bunch of lousy moves. He trades away two picks - one of which could have been a PG for 3m each but than signs Marcus Banks; he lets SToudemire go but then signs a bunch of dudes. Umm, he signs both Barbosa and Diaw to big contracts but the next year has to dump Kurt Thomas with two first rounders; and now possibly this - not sure how you can say this is anybody but sarver
Maybe. Sarver was under financial pressure but he's said all the right things ever since his disastrous foray into GM role playing and his financial distress has been relieved. I can't see either one of them going this route although I can sort of understand the allure of pairing Love and Booker with Ball. It would be an exciting team that could win a lot of games, maybe a poor man's Houston. I just can't see why they'd settle for being Houston-lite. So I'm not going to indict either Sarver or McDonough on the basis of an unsupported rumor but I'm going to be royally pissed if it actually happens.
I would rather pair Love and Booker with Russell than Ball to be honest. But yes, that's not much D and would be Houston -lite
Son of Ra wrote:What I don't understand is why would we go for Love if Butler can be had for #4 and garbage (seriously, what else would the Cavs be able to offer). There is no way we couldn't outbid them (easily so) and snag Butler ourselves. Who would, btw, fit all of our FO's criteria way more than Love does.
I call BS.
Son of Ra wrote:What I don't understand is why would we go for Love if Butler can be had for #4 and garbage (seriously, what else would the Cavs be able to offer). There is no way we couldn't outbid them (easily so) and snag Butler ourselves. Who would, btw, fit all of our FO's criteria way more than Love does.
I call BS.