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Post#161 » by ontnut » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:24 pm

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RaptorsNorth wrote:Who cares cares!!!!!!!!!!! Lowry leaving is a good thing. First off we won't be a maxed out team with a 31 year old choker, 2nd we had a great 2nd half of the season without him. oh And I don't want to hear some bullsh.. About playing weak teams. Go back and look at some of the teams we beat like the wizards and boston without him. Also we came the closest to beating the cavs in the playoffs when he wasn't playing. LET HIS A.. WALK AND GO CHOKE SOMEWHERE ELSE. IM SO SICK OF WATCHING THIS GUY CHOKE EVERY POST SEASON AND GET PUCKED BY REAL STARS IN THE LEAGUE. The guy quit on the team since the allstar break. When has lowry eveR let a twisted ankle stop him from playing in big games ? This is A guy that played with a messed up wrist for years, a guy that played with a ball on his elbow last season but, all of a sudden he can't play on a twisted ankle ? Lol ok. Norm, JV and serge all played after twisting their ankles in the playoffs. I'm still waiting for somebody to tell me who lowry was looking at and pretending to have a conversation with when the man was looking dead at him here. https://streamable.com/xdtg the guy is no pitbull in the playoffs and we'll just screw ourselfs over by locking him into a big contract. Is he going to magically start showing up in the playoff's while hitting the downside of his care ? Come on he's a 31 year old choker and that's now his rep. He's not young where you can say he'll improve when he reaches his peak. He's already approaching the downside of his career.


2700+ posts in 4 months or roughly 1 every hour. Nearly all of them anti-Lowry citing incorrect information, full of terrible grammar, and no use of paragraphs. Exhibit A as to the decline of this board.

Also: To all in the let Lowry walk camp, you have the same beliefs as RaptorsNorth and therefore you should think long and hard about the path you're going down in life.
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Post#163 » by theonlyeastcoastrapsfan » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:34 pm

agentzero2010 wrote:Dear Canadian media outlets; stop trying not tear this team apart, if anything, just stick with hockey and leave the Raptors alone.


You know this isn't true right. Like if Arthur is wrong or if he totally just made it up because he's a villain looking to harm Canada, then the article won't change anything. And if he's not wrong and Kyle bolts, the article won't make a difference either way. Truth is he probably did hear that, I believe he heard that if he said he did. Doesn't mean it's true and he never said it was true. Masai himself this am when asked about it, made some mention of the volatility of Kyle's moods. He didn't call BS on BA.

Bruce Arthur repeated something he heard in Mid-may and qualified it, and included a comment from Kyle to refute and ended with the notion that things can change and many of you still want to kill the messenger, meanwhile you think we're getting Blake because he said he like the city. The media you are saying is trying to tear the team apart, actually own the team. If people in this market are prone to reading this stuff and then attacking the player on social media endlessly, that's on them for being horrible people. I hope they grow out of it, but don't shoot the messenger.
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Post#164 » by hsb » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:55 pm

Masai didn't dismiss the Arthur story and even talked to him about it. Didn't make it a big deal though stating people have highs and lows and it's normal. Think there was truth to it at the time or KL and his team were just posturing for contract leverage and some of the things he stated found its way to the media.

Us fans are critical on how the local media doesn't get enough scoops, and hey, guess one kind of did.
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Post#165 » by agentzero2010 » Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:03 pm

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agentzero2010 wrote:Dear Canadian media outlets; stop trying not tear this team apart, if anything, just stick with hockey and leave the Raptors alone.


You know this isn't true right. Like if Arthur is wrong or if he totally just made it up because he's a villain looking to harm Canada, then the article won't change anything. And if he's not wrong and Kyle bolts, the article won't make a difference either way. Truth is he probably did hear that, I believe he heard that if he said he did. Doesn't mean it's true and he never said it was true. Masai himself this am when asked about it, made some mention of the volatility of Kyle's moods. He didn't call BS on BA.

Bruce Arthur repeated something he heard in Mid-may and qualified it, and included a comment from Kyle to refute and ended with the notion that things can change and many of you still want to kill the messenger, meanwhile you think we're getting Blake because he said he like the city. The media you are saying is trying to tear the team apart, actually own the team. If people in this market are prone to reading this stuff and then attacking the player on social media endlessly, that's on them for being horrible people. I hope they grow out of it, but don't shoot the messenger.


Its all about optics. If Lowry doesn't come back, the fans will turn on him and say that he "quit" on this franchise. Sounds familiar? If he comes back, people around the league will say he came back for the money or other teams had little interest in him. Sounds familiar? Either way, its bad optics. And you are probably right, he's just reporting something that he heard from mid-feb but why report it right now, days before the start of free agency. Why not report it after Lowry leaves. What is there to gain? Clicks? No doubt. Media attention? I just saw this smug SOB doing a phone interview on SportsCentre. In fact, this guy essentially said during the interview that Lowry is volatile, a distraction to the team, has a tendency clashes with players and coaches, is disgruntled and dissatisfied playing in Toronto, would turn down a max offer from the Raptors...but if he had a guess, he thinks Lowry will still come back next season. WTF? What was the whole point of the article then? All I see in the headlines today are: Lowry has "Zero interest" in resigning with the Raptors, Lowry will likely leave in free agency. This was simply an unnecessary piece written by an unknown writer in a dying media outlet trying to grasp for the slightest media attention. Thats journalism?
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Post#167 » by theonlyeastcoastrapsfan » Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:13 pm

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agentzero2010 wrote:Dear Canadian media outlets; stop trying not tear this team apart, if anything, just stick with hockey and leave the Raptors alone.


You know this isn't true right. Like if Arthur is wrong or if he totally just made it up because he's a villain looking to harm Canada, then the article won't change anything. And if he's not wrong and Kyle bolts, the article won't make a difference either way. Truth is he probably did hear that, I believe he heard that if he said he did. Doesn't mean it's true and he never said it was true. Masai himself this am when asked about it, made some mention of the volatility of Kyle's moods. He didn't call BS on BA.

Bruce Arthur repeated something he heard in Mid-may and qualified it, and included a comment from Kyle to refute and ended with the notion that things can change and many of you still want to kill the messenger, meanwhile you think we're getting Blake because he said he like the city. The media you are saying is trying to tear the team apart, actually own the team. If people in this market are prone to reading this stuff and then attacking the player on social media endlessly, that's on them for being horrible people. I hope they grow out of it, but don't shoot the messenger.


Its all about optics. If Lowry doesn't come back, the fans will turn on him and say that he "quit" on this franchise. Sounds familiar? If he comes back, people around the league will say he came back for the money or other teams had little interest in him. Sounds familiar? Either way, its bad optics. And you are probably right, he's just reporting something that he heard from mid-feb but why report it right now, days before the start of free agency. Why not report it after Lowry leaves. What is there to gain? Clicks? No doubt. Media attention? I just saw this smug SOB doing a phone interview on SportsCentre. In fact, this guy essentially said during the interview that Lowry is volatile, a distraction to the team, has a tendency clashes with players and coaches, is disgruntled and dissatisfied playing in Toronto, would turn down a max offer from the Raptors...but if he had a guess, he thinks Lowry will still come back next season. WTF? What was the whole point of the article then? All I see in the headlines today are: Lowry has "Zero interest" in resigning with the Raptors, Lowry will likely leave in free agency. This was simply an unnecessary piece written by an unknown writer in a dying media outlet trying to grasp for the slightest media attention. Thats journalism?


He's a Toronto sportswriter and columnist. This is a very relvant topic. Masai himself did not call the report BS, but made mention of Lowry's moods. Whether people, or Raptors fans, have the ability to read an article beyond a juicy line, or whether they are emotionally able to handle it is not on Arthur. And getting back to your reply:

If Lowry doesn't come back, the fans will turn on him and say that he "quit" on this franchise. Sounds familiar? If he comes back, people around the league will say he came back for the money or other teams had little interest in him.


This is gonna be the case no matter what Arthur does.

If you want to criticise the media, call them out for us being financially screwed with no options but bird rights, and luxury tax road map to certain decline - and no one ever writing a critical piece of how we got here, by sitting back and evaluating after tripping on accidental success. No call outs for Carroll, that I remember, no call outs for Bruno. No calling out the DD contract. A tough media is a good thing, a free pass media feels good for a few years then you turn around and be like, what the heck happened?
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Post#169 » by DG88 » Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:24 pm

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Lowry is staying, he's been in the city since the season ended.

I think Lowry and Ibaka re-sign and we bring back Tucker on a minimum deal. Then we work out a trade to add to the roster.
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1: Re-sign everybody, chase PG/Butler via trade
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Post#172 » by gerrit4 » Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:41 pm

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Lowry is staying, he's been in the city since the season ended.

I think Lowry and Ibaka re-sign and we bring back Tucker on a minimum deal. Then we work out a trade to add to the roster.


Minimum deal? I'm sure Cleveland/GSW/SAS would sign him immediately if that was an option. I'd be happy to re-sign him at 3 years/30 million.
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Translation: He wants to come back, but he wants more money still.
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Lowry is staying, he's been in the city since the season ended.

I think Lowry and Ibaka re-sign and we bring back Tucker on a minimum deal. Then we work out a trade to add to the roster.


What a massive "culture change". Bring back basically everyone, and tell them to take mo shats.
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Post#175 » by RaptorsNorth » Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:40 pm

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Lowry is staying, he's been in the city since the season ended.

I think Lowry and Ibaka re-sign and we bring back Tucker on a minimum deal. Then we work out a trade to add to the roster.


What a massive "culture change". Bring back basically everyone, and tell them to take mo shats.
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Post#176 » by artsncrafts » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:21 pm

I like Lowry as a person and even as a player most of the time, but he is 31 and this core hasnt done much with him playing like a superstar. Is locking him up for 5 more years really the answer? The outcome at best will be the same as the past few years but slightly worse, and that is optimistic with how much the east has improved.
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Post#177 » by Geddy » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:38 pm

It's pretty clear now that Lowry is coming back for max money as there is no market for him and other teams probably have bigger fish to fry in terms of free agents and trade acquisitions. Other teams will also be keeping capspace open in the hopes of landing Lebron in 2018.
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Post#178 » by artsncrafts » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:43 pm

Geddy wrote:It's pretty clear now that Lowry is coming back for max money as there is no market for him and other teams probably have bigger fish to fry in terms of free agents and trade acquisitions. Other teams will also be keeping capspace open in the hopes of landing Lebron in 2018.

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Post#179 » by Johnny Bball » Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:10 pm

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You know this isn't true right. Like if Arthur is wrong or if he totally just made it up because he's a villain looking to harm Canada, then the article won't change anything. And if he's not wrong and Kyle bolts, the article won't make a difference either way. Truth is he probably did hear that, I believe he heard that if he said he did. Doesn't mean it's true and he never said it was true. Masai himself this am when asked about it, made some mention of the volatility of Kyle's moods. He didn't call BS on BA.

Bruce Arthur repeated something he heard in Mid-may and qualified it, and included a comment from Kyle to refute and ended with the notion that things can change and many of you still want to kill the messenger, meanwhile you think we're getting Blake because he said he like the city. The media you are saying is trying to tear the team apart, actually own the team. If people in this market are prone to reading this stuff and then attacking the player on social media endlessly, that's on them for being horrible people. I hope they grow out of it, but don't shoot the messenger.


Its all about optics. If Lowry doesn't come back, the fans will turn on him and say that he "quit" on this franchise. Sounds familiar? If he comes back, people around the league will say he came back for the money or other teams had little interest in him. Sounds familiar? Either way, its bad optics. And you are probably right, he's just reporting something that he heard from mid-feb but why report it right now, days before the start of free agency. Why not report it after Lowry leaves. What is there to gain? Clicks? No doubt. Media attention? I just saw this smug SOB doing a phone interview on SportsCentre. In fact, this guy essentially said during the interview that Lowry is volatile, a distraction to the team, has a tendency clashes with players and coaches, is disgruntled and dissatisfied playing in Toronto, would turn down a max offer from the Raptors...but if he had a guess, he thinks Lowry will still come back next season. WTF? What was the whole point of the article then? All I see in the headlines today are: Lowry has "Zero interest" in resigning with the Raptors, Lowry will likely leave in free agency. This was simply an unnecessary piece written by an unknown writer in a dying media outlet trying to grasp for the slightest media attention. Thats journalism?


He's a Toronto sportswriter and columnist. This is a very relvant topic. Masai himself did not call the report BS, but made mention of Lowry's moods. Whether people, or Raptors fans, have the ability to read an article beyond a juicy line, or whether they are emotionally able to handle it is not on Arthur. And getting back to your reply:

If Lowry doesn't come back, the fans will turn on him and say that he "quit" on this franchise. Sounds familiar? If he comes back, people around the league will say he came back for the money or other teams had little interest in him.


This is gonna be the case no matter what Arthur does.

If you want to criticise the media, call them out for us being financially screwed with no options but bird rights, and luxury tax road map to certain decline - and no one ever writing a critical piece of how we got here, by sitting back and evaluating after tripping on accidental success. No call outs for Carroll, that I remember, no call outs for Bruno. No calling out the DD contract. A tough media is a good thing, a free pass media feels good for a few years then you turn around and be like, what the heck happened?


How can he call something bull when he's not there for every conversation. He stated that Lowry did not say anything like that to him, stated opposite, and that he can only go on what he's been told. I'm really not sure what some people expect him to say here.

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