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Villalobos wrote:Blonde wrote:Jackson at 4 hype is getting way too real for me right now. I have a bad feeling that Boston won't let it happen though. Suns getting lucky? Nah, never gonna happen.
yeah. I'm starting to get hopeful if Boston keeps the pick. But they could easily give it away for PG/Butler.
ugh
Sreister wrote:JMac1 wrote:Sreister wrote:
Been saying this all day since I listened to the Podcast yesterday that he said it on. He sounded like he wanted to, too. Stuff like "they're young and it'd be nice to get in on that". If he could play the 5 for us, and can land Butler..something like
Warren + #4 + Mia Pick for Butler
That probably is a good place to start. Might have to throw in Bender or something. But running with
Bled/Ulis
Book/??
Butler/??
Chriss/Sauce
Blake/Chandler
Fill in some holes and that's a team we can run with and get in the top 4 in the West. Right?
You didn't listen to it? The podcast "Pardon my Take". He was being facetious, because he was talking about a "Mount Rushmore of NBA Cities". His 2nd one was Phoenix and cited that it's a young up and coming 'city' and that it'd be nice to get in on that before they really take off, he ahead of the game kind of thing.
Villalobos wrote:bwgood77 wrote:Villalobos wrote:
I don't think he wants to go there, or his agent doesn't at least, so he's trying to get them to pass on him. He has to fight for playing time over Crowder and Brown, and that's before they try and get Hayward or another all-star SF. He may have a promise from #4 and doesn't want to risk an injury in a useless workout and fall in the draft. If he goes to a bad team he'll have more playing time, put up bigger stats, and get more attention and even something like Rookie of the Year. That's almost certain not to happen in Boston.Waylay13 wrote:
That he wants to get his player playing the game. If he is in Boston he is likely going to be stuck behind Jae Crowder, Gerald Green and Jaylen Brown. If he was drafted by the 76ers or Lakers he would have gotten some playing time and if he was drafted by the Suns or Kings he would likely start before the end of the year.
Well then why do they want a promise from them before a workout? I guess I can understand if he wants to go to Phoenix, or especially Sacramento where they just lost Rudy Gay. But it's also maybe costing him and his agent money.
They also worked out with the Lakers who just drafted Ingram. It will be very interesting to see who we draft and if Jackson drops all the way to 5. That would be pretty crazy. But it's beginning to look like either Boston trades the pick for Butler so Chicago may take Jackson, or Jackson will slip to us.
To me, the whole point is their demand is an unreasonable contradiction so that Boston passes, and a message saying, "Please don't draft me" without actually saying it. You do workouts so someone will be impressed with you to pick you. Same is true if they're not giving Boston his medical info. Doing the opposite makes a team not want to pick you. Like how players have treated Sacramento the last few years.
Only way it makes sense to me is if a more favorable team gave him a promise right above or right below, like Phoenix or the Lakers. I don't see the Lakers promising him with Lonzo around, so it's probably Phoenix.
As for losing money. Consider this: he gets drafted by Boston and doesn't look great so most of his playing time goes to Hayward/Crawford/Brown. Less stats, less attention, no RoY, and because of those things he gets less attention from sponsors. Fast forward to the end of his rookie deal and he's still not getting the minutes and stats he wants. He may get a smaller contract as an RFA from a team who doesn't need him all that much. Other teams may not want to give him a ton because he hasn't proven enough playing behind other, better guys. That contract is much, much more important than a slight increase in rookie scale money from #4 to #3.
bwgood77 wrote:Villalobos wrote:bwgood77 wrote:
Well then why do they want a promise from them before a workout? I guess I can understand if he wants to go to Phoenix, or especially Sacramento where they just lost Rudy Gay. But it's also maybe costing him and his agent money.
They also worked out with the Lakers who just drafted Ingram. It will be very interesting to see who we draft and if Jackson drops all the way to 5. That would be pretty crazy. But it's beginning to look like either Boston trades the pick for Butler so Chicago may take Jackson, or Jackson will slip to us.
To me, the whole point is their demand is an unreasonable contradiction so that Boston passes, and a message saying, "Please don't draft me" without actually saying it. You do workouts so someone will be impressed with you to pick you. Same is true if they're not giving Boston his medical info. Doing the opposite makes a team not want to pick you. Like how players have treated Sacramento the last few years.
Only way it makes sense to me is if a more favorable team gave him a promise right above or right below, like Phoenix or the Lakers. I don't see the Lakers promising him with Lonzo around, so it's probably Phoenix.
As for losing money. Consider this: he gets drafted by Boston and doesn't look great so most of his playing time goes to Hayward/Crawford/Brown. Less stats, less attention, no RoY, and because of those things he gets less attention from sponsors. Fast forward to the end of his rookie deal and he's still not getting the minutes and stats he wants. He may get a smaller contract as an RFA from a team who doesn't need him all that much. Other teams may not want to give him a ton because he hasn't proven enough playing behind other, better guys. That contract is much, much more important than a slight increase in rookie scale money from #4 to #3.
Yeah, I thought of second contract while posting that, and that if he got drafted by us, the difference in salary wouldn't be THAT big.
I just wonder why we haven't brought him in. Do we have his medical info? I kind of doubt we made him a promise.
Waylay13 wrote:Remember that Boston is currently linked to both Butler and Hayward. so if he is drafted by them he is going to go to chicago and be part of a team that is just starting to rebuild or he will be put so far down on the bench that he wont see playing time till he is 30.
LukasBMW wrote:Wish list:
Option A: Trade for KP if we can get him for #4 plus anyone not named Booker/Chriss.
Option B: Trade #4 for Butler (He's a top 10 player and he's locked up). Getting him for #4 allows us to also possibly sign a big name free agent.
Option C: Keep #4 and draft Tatum
Mulhollanddrive wrote:Porzingis or Jackson.
fromthetop321 wrote:I got Lebron number 1, he is also leading defensive player of the year. Curry's game still reminds me of Jeremy Lin to much.
DirtyDez wrote:Mulhollanddrive wrote:Porzingis or Jackson.
UNICORN
I really hope Boston takes Tatum for the simple fact McD's phone will explode with offers for JJ.
JMac1 wrote:DirtyDez wrote:Mulhollanddrive wrote:Porzingis or Jackson.
UNICORN
I really hope Boston takes Tatum for the simple fact McD's phone will explode with offers for JJ.
Bledsoe
Jackson
Melo
Bender
plus Miami picks.....when it is time to draft might sound better than saying the no. 4 today. When it because areal player, it changes things.
Bledsoe
Booker
Jackson
Bender
and
Chris
and Miami picks
and our picks isn't bad if we don't get Staps
Dambo wrote:What time will the draft start? I saw on the internet it's in 7pm et but does silver usually come out with the first pick at 7 or later?
