2017 NBA DRAFT Part 3

LuessiT · Post #1481 » by **LuessiT** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:48 pm

DX have put up their strength/weaknesses vids for Ntilikina:

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DingleJerry · Post #1482 » by **DingleJerry** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:07 pm

Saw some Frank Jackson at the combine today and liked what i saw. Obviously the context wasn't great or anything. I'm hoping Mitchell drops to MKE but if not I'm on the Guard/wing train so I think i'd just take Jackson and hope for the best even though he's projected later. Just feel like he'll be the best guard left. I assume Ntilikina will be gone too.

then roll the dice on a physical rebound rim protecting big in the second. Hope he can step in after Monroe leaves after this year to pair well with Thon. There's some decent options for 3 and D wings in the 2nd too, so wouldn't mind buying a pick this year. Hopefully they put that money from GSW in the bank and can just send it right to someone else.

Nowak008 · Post #1483 » by **Nowak008** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:08 pm

M-C-G wrote:
Nowak008 wrote:Thon temperature check - what's the lowest pick you would accept in a trade for Thon?

Super not interested in trading him. Would have to think more about it though, we finally have a legit prospect 3&D center with rim protection, hard to let that go.

Yea I can understand that. It just kinda sucks that this is probably the best point guard draft in years - 5 point guards might go in the top 10 - and we won't be coming away with one. Can't win in this league without an elite guard.

bigballajohn · Post #1484 » by **bigballajohn** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:11 pm

What would it take to trade up into position to get Ntilikina or DSJ? Would any team consider #17, #48, a future first, Vaughn and/or Delly?

Baddy Chuck · Post #1485 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:01 pm

I still really, really, really (3 reallys) want Monte Morris to be our G-League point guard.

Bernman · Post #1486 » by **Bernman** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:34 pm

DingleJerry wrote:Saw some Frank Jackson at the combine today and liked what i saw. Obviously the context wasn't great or anything. I'm hoping Mitchell drops to MKE but if not I'm on the Guard/wing train so I think i'd just take Jackson and hope for the best even though he's projected later. Just feel like he'll be the best guard left. I assume Ntilikina will be gone too.

then roll the dice on a physical rebound rim protecting big in the second. Hope he can step in after Monroe leaves after this year to pair well with Thon. There's some decent options for 3 and D wings in the 2nd too, so wouldn't mind buying a pick this year. Hopefully they put that money from GSW in the bank and can just send it right to someone else.

The context is good. It's a group of low-level 1sts to 3rd rounders. That's tougher comp than they played in major d1 ball. Brogdon really impressed there last year. It translated. I think there's a pretty good correlation.

Douggystyle29 · Post #1487 » by **Douggystyle29** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:14 am

midranger wrote:Our swarming, long armed players don't fit our swarming, long armed defense. Reminder: we are an abysmal defensive team.

This happens to be a big reason I'm afraid of drafting Leaf. I think he has a high floor and will be a decent player in the NBA, but just not for this team. There are better options for us.

Turk Nowitzki · Post #1488 » by **Turk Nowitzki** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:17 am

bigballajohn wrote:What would it take to trade up into position to get Ntilikina or DSJ? Would any team consider #17, #48, a future first, Vaughn and/or Delly?

You'd have to get into the Top 10 to get either of those guys and I don't think that package gets it done.

VooDoo7 · Post #1489 » by **VooDoo7** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:49 am

SupremeHustle wrote:It's kinda cool not knowing who we're going to draft.

Signed, Jon Horst

BucksFanSD · Post #1490 » by **BucksFanSD** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:50 am

Turk Nowitzki wrote:
bigballajohn wrote:What would it take to trade up into position to get Ntilikina or DSJ? Would any team consider #17, #48, a future first, Vaughn and/or Delly?

You'd have to get into the Top 10 to get either of those guys and I don't think that package gets it done.

If Ntilikina slides to #14 such as in DX's mock, #17 and a future 1st should get it done.

midranger · Post #1491 » by **midranger** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:57 am

With teams bombing 30+ threes per game, and many of the twos coming in transition before the defense is set... how much value does a rim protector have?

Give me the guy who can hard hedge and recover or effectively switch and stay in front of a guard, rotate quickly to challenge jumpers, chase down transition opportunities, and shoot a 3 himself on the other end. This is why I'm so down on all these bigs around our slot.

Chuck Diesel · Post #1492 » by **Chuck Diesel** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 2:00 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:I still really, really, really (3 reallys) want Monte Morris to be our G-League point guard.

Kevin Pelton is really high on him.

VooDoo7 · Post #1493 » by **VooDoo7** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 2:07 am

Chuck Diesel wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:I still really, really, really (3 reallys) want Monte Morris to be our G-League point guard.

Kevin Pelton is really high on him.

I wouldn't mind having Kobi Simmons down there either.

Baddy Chuck · Post #1494 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 2:07 am

Chuck Diesel wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:I still really, really, really (3 reallys) want Monte Morris to be our G-League point guard.

Kevin Pelton is really high on him.

Think he's very underrated.

xTitan · Post #1495 » by **xTitan** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 2:15 am

midranger wrote:With teams bombing 30+ threes per game, and many of the twos coming in transition before the defense is set... how much value does a rim protector have?

Give me the guy who can hard hedge and recover or effectively switch and stay in front of a guard, rotate quickly to challenge jumpers, chase down transition opportunities, and shoot a 3 himself on the other end. This is why I'm so down on all these bigs around our slot.

Lucky we have a guy who can do both, plus rim protectors still have a lot of value in the half court.

midranger · Post #1496 » by **midranger** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 2:23 am

xTitan wrote:
midranger wrote:With teams bombing 30+ threes per game, and many of the twos coming in transition before the defense is set... how much value does a rim protector have?

Give me the guy who can hard hedge and recover or effectively switch and stay in front of a guard, rotate quickly to challenge jumpers, chase down transition opportunities, and shoot a 3 himself on the other end. This is why I'm so down on all these bigs around our slot.

Lucky we have a guy who can do both, plus rim protectors still have a lot of value in the half court.

I think they have some, but seemingly half the shots out of a half court set end in a three, of which they have no value if they aren't great defensive rebounders.

Frank Nova · Post #1497 » by **Frank Nova** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 2:26 am

VooDoo7 wrote:
Chuck Diesel wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:I still really, really, really (3 reallys) want Monte Morris to be our G-League point guard.

Kevin Pelton is really high on him.

I wouldn't mind having Kobi Simmons down there either.

I like Kobi Simmons a lot. Id take him at 48 and be pretty excited. I read a comparison on him that said he could end up being a Nick Young type of player with a functioning brain and that could be a very useful player for us. I can see that when I watch video on him.

snoogans8056 · Post #1498 » by **snoogans8056** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 2:26 am

If Frank N doesn't get Kidd all hot and bothered, I don't know what will. Seems like the perfect PG for what we run defensively. Giannis and Thon behind him / hedging screens would be a nightmare.

awd4cy · Post #1499 » by **awd4cy** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 2:57 am

I think Monte Morris would be a great fit for this team off the bench. Wouldn't mind a true pg who gets the ball in playmakers hands and rarely turns the ball over. I agree that he is underrated.

Gianstoppable · Post #1500 » by **Gianstoppable** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:09 am

We really should get multiple 2nds. Morris, Frank Mason, Dorsey etc would all be good on the bench and in the G League