Reverse Tim Duncan - The Dwight Howard Thread

LofJ · Post #141 » by **LofJ** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:10 am

The Lakers are offering 27,28, Randle, and Clarkson (negative value) for George. An offer of 11, a future 1st, Marvin, and Sessions beats that deal.

They_Them_Hatin · Post #142 » by **They_Them_Hatin** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:11 am

We turned two bums into Dwight and moved up to the 31st 1st pick. I'm happy! Clifford will utilize Dwight correctly. 31 and a future 2nd could definitely move us up in the early 20s for teams needing an non guaranteed contract.

Braggins · Post #143 » by **Braggins** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:12 am

LofJ wrote:The Lakers are offering 27,28, Randle, and Clarkson (negative value) for George. An offer of 11, a future 1st, Marvin, and Sessions beats that deal.

George isn't going to stay here.

Post #144 » by **yosemiteben** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:14 am

LofJ wrote:The Lakers are offering 27,28, Randle, and Clarkson (negative value) for George. An offer of 11, a future 1st, Marvin, and Sessions beats that deal.

That can't be the best offer they'll get.

LofJ · Post #145 » by **LofJ** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:14 am

Braggins wrote:
LofJ wrote:The Lakers are offering 27,28, Randle, and Clarkson (negative value) for George. An offer of 11, a future 1st, Marvin, and Sessions beats that deal.

George isn't going to stay here.

I know, that's why I would stop at including MKG. It's too much for me.

Cheeze · Post #146 » by **Cheeze** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:17 am

Well...didn't see that coming. While I'm not quite as giddy as some here, I like the direction of the move. Howard is definitely a Clifford kinda guy. There will be no more boohooing from the front court. And it gives Kemba some protection defensively. I also like the fit next to Batum. Now need a shooter on the wing.

What adding Howard does is legitimize the Hornets as a force in the East. Can't argue with that kind of value, even at $46M for two seasons.

Post #147 » by **yosemiteben** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:17 am

Braggins wrote:
LofJ wrote:The Lakers are offering 27,28, Randle, and Clarkson (negative value) for George. An offer of 11, a future 1st, Marvin, and Sessions beats that deal.

George isn't going to stay here.

Maybe not. We need to get Batum level comfortable that he'd at least be open to it or I wouldn't do it.

He'd be turning down a ton of money to walk.

Post #148 » by **fatlever** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:24 am

Turned on NBATV for a second, they started talking about the trade... entire segment from Hawks point of view. Figures.

BatumtheGlue · Post #149 » by **BatumtheGlue** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:25 am

Cheeze wrote:Well...didn't see that coming. While I'm not quite as giddy as some here, I like the direction of the move. Howard is definitely a Clifford kinda guy. There will be no more boohooing from the front court. And it gives Kemba some protection defensively. I also like the fit next to Batum. Now need a shooter on the wing.

What adding Howard does is legitimize the Hornets as a force in the East. Can't argue with that kind of value, even at $46M for two seasons.

My concern on Dwight is his willingness to do pick and roll. Cody is an elite pick setter, he is another reason why Kemba excels beside of Nic presence. Will Dwight does what Cody always did without pouting?

TheKingofSting · Post #150 » by **TheKingofSting** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:26 am

Diop wrote:
jdm3 wrote:I love the trade but I do fear it means we are going to screw up the 11 pick. Now if we pull this into a FF and Frank Jackson combo I would be thrilled with the offseason start.

you had full faith in our drafting before the trade?

Trader Cho just needs to let the draft play out and fleece some sucker team for a future star.

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Post #151 » by **fatlever** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:30 am

Diop wrote:
BlackOutBuzz wrote:This is great and all but it's really just setting me up for a crazy letdown when we trade 31 for $300k and a holographic Bulbasaur.

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i was thinking 31 might be used to trade for a backup point guard. Package it with Sessions.

Maybe Beverly as Fats suggested

Sessions and 31 for Beverley, seems to make a ton of sense to me.

Kemba/Beverley/Weber
Batum/Kennard
MKG/Lamb/Graham
Marvin/Frank/JOB
Dwight/Cody

Plus MLE on a 3D wing or combo

TheKingofSting · Post #152 » by **TheKingofSting** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:31 am

Kemba / ???
Batum / ???
MKG / Lamb
Marv / Frank
Dwight / Cody

We are finally getting out of the first round of the playoffs if we remain healthy!

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TheKingofSting · Post #153 » by **TheKingofSting** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:33 am

Braggins wrote:
LofJ wrote:The Lakers are offering 27,28, Randle, and Clarkson (negative value) for George. An offer of 11, a future 1st, Marvin, and Sessions beats that deal.

George isn't going to stay here.

Or come here.

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Post #154 » by **yosemiteben** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:33 am

I need the 31 for the KLove trade I'm proposing.

Go future 1st.

Kemba - Beverly - Briante
Nic - Graham
PG - Lamb
KLove - Frank - JOB?
Dwight - MLE

Braggins · Post #155 » by **Braggins** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:34 am

TheKingofSting wrote:Kemba / ???
Batum / ???
MKG / Lamb
Marv / Frank
Dwight / Cody

We are finally getting out of the first round of the playoffs if we remain healthy!

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Have we ever had an 8 man rotation this good?

Post #156 » by **fatlever** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:39 am

I desperately want to keep Cody. I'd only entertain trading him in a blockbuster to land Kemba a legit #1B two way scorer. Cody and Dwight are both injury prone. We need depth at center to play how Cliff wants this team to play.

What would be the best news ever would be Cody finally developing a 3pt shot. Every **** big man coming into the draft can make 3s. There's no reason Cody shouldn't be able to add some 3pt range this summer. I believe in him adding that shot before MKG.

BatumtheGlue · Post #157 » by **BatumtheGlue** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:41 am

fatlever wrote:
Diop wrote:
BlackOutBuzz wrote:This is great and all but it's really just setting me up for a crazy letdown when we trade 31 for $300k and a holographic Bulbasaur.

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i was thinking 31 might be used to trade for a backup point guard. Package it with Sessions.

Maybe Beverly as Fats suggested

Sessions and 31 for Beverley, seems to make a ton of sense to me.

Kemba/Beverley/Weber
Batum/Kennard
MKG/Lamb/Graham
Marvin/Frank/JOB
Dwight/Cody

Plus MLE on a 3D wing or combo

Need more that 31 to get Bev, imo.

Post #158 » by **fatlever** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:47 am

BatumtheGlue wrote:Need more that 31 to get Bev, imo.

Normally I'd agree, but today rumors were floating around that Rockets were looking to trade him to a team that can absorb his salary in order to make a run at a free agent. Helping them clear salary +31, seems like a fair deal in that sense.

dmutombo321 · Post #159 » by **dmutombo321** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:54 am

Mystical Apples wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:I think it's pretty unlikely that Cody gets moved, but I also think it's highly likely that one of MKG or Marv gets moved with the 11 and 31.

If this is a low key play on PG I will lose it.

The pieces are there now for a serious run. No way CHA stands pat with the wing situation.

I believe the same; more moves have to be around the corner. Its a contract year for Cho and he's operating with a win-now directive. Trading for 32 year old Dwight Howard makes that clear. Like most, I was terrified when I saw the headline regarding Dwight but elated to read that Cho pulled off the deal for nothing more than spare parts while offloading plumlee's corpse and bettering Charlotte's second round standing in the process. howard's on the downside of his career but is still a nightly double double threat and better rim protector than anything this team has had since Tyson Chandler.

Absinthe · Post #160 » by **Absinthe** » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:55 am

It's a good trade for the Hornets. If nothing else because they were able to move up in the draft and shed Plumlee's contract.

As for Dwight, I'm not as optimistic as some of you. I think he has severe attitude and maturity problems. He has all the skills and tools but tends to be a drama queen who insists on resting on his laurels.