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Re: Woj: Dlo & Moz to Nets for lopez and 27th pick 

Post#401 » by jigga_man » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:33 am

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Re: Woj: Dlo & Moz to Nets for lopez and 27th pick 

Post#402 » by dockingsched » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:02 am

So glad I was at the Angels v Yankees game tonight when this went down. Ultimately a combination of DLos maturity issues, the toxicity of the Mozgov deal, and inside info on the 2018 free agency led to this.

Gotta give the front office a chance to see where this goes by end of next summer.
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Re: Woj: Dlo & Moz to Nets for lopez and 27th pick 

Post#403 » by dingclancy » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:16 am

We are not trading a former 2nd pick. We are trading D'angelo Russel. Big difference. D'lo was not 2nd pick material to begin with and the Lakers are just cutting their losses.

Him being a good shooter is a myth. He makes tough shots, but that is because he cannot get enough separation, because he is slow footed.

He can be a good spot up shooter though.

But his TS% last year was .518 which is just good for 313th in the league, He is worse than 70% of the league in TS%.
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Re: Woj: Dlo & Moz to Nets for lopez and 27th pick 

Post#404 » by LakersSoul » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:18 am

dockingsched wrote:So glad I was at the Angels v Yankees game tonight when this went down. Ultimately a combination of DLos maturity issues, the toxicity of the Mozgov deal, and inside info on the 2018 free agency led to this.

Gotta give the front office a chance to see where this goes by end of next summer.


Yeah. The FO reviewed the players and thought BI was the only franchise player. They did not want to trade BI or the #2 pick but everyone else was fair game.

Dlo's was the Lakers best player last year, no doubt, and I hate to see him go. He can shoot but he did have some character flaws and I guess the FO thought they had to get the most out of Dlo as a tradable chip this year. One recurring theme with Magic seems to be players that hustle and play defense. Regarding the trade, honestly, I wish we would have waited one more year to see how Dlo develops but maybe they didnt want to risk his stock falling as a SG.

The trade overall is not a horrible one and in fact, many things to like. We get a huge upgrade at center spot for this upcoming year. We unload a horrible mistake in Moz who was nothing but a bench player and eating away our salary cap. We open ourselves up for MAX player in 2018 and we get a #27 pick on top.

Who knows, maybe Lopez is our answer at center spot for the near future as a borderline all-star and our best center since forever. If not, then we can always trade him during the deadline for a #1 draft pick or more, which would mean we net traded Dlo for 2-3 first rounders plus unloading Moz contract. In that terms, its not a bad play by Magic and might turn into a creative move.

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Re: Woj: Dlo & Moz to Nets for lopez and 27th pick 

Post#405 » by Up-And-Coming » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:24 am

On a positive note I think a lot of people are underrating the value of Brook Lopez. He is still only 29 years old and has been healthy for the last 3 seasons (he only was injured 2 of his 9 nba seasons) and is almost the prototypical center for the game today. A 7' 1" center who shoots and makes threes at a high rate and good percentage, can spread the floor and make free throws, and a legit shot blocking presence. He is also a local kid and this is his first time getting a fresh start on a new team. He imo is actually arguably a top 6 center and is on par with a player like Al Horford:

1. Gobert
2. Cousins
3. Gasol
4. Whiteside
5. Jordan
6. Lopez/Horford
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Re: Woj: Dlo & Moz to Nets for lopez and 27th pick 

Post#406 » by TyCobb » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:29 am

Magic's thoughts tonight:

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Re: Woj: Dlo & Moz to Nets for lopez and 27th pick 

Post#407 » by Spens1 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:29 am

I still can't believe this, how can they outdo Phil Jackson for being this useless. How can you be this incompetent. This is absolute garbage, it really is the worst deal in the history of the lakers. Plus we're not getting Lavert. who is going to start at S.G, are they going to mortgage our future for P.G, next thing we know, they're going to trade Ingram for P.G just to get him here.

Nah that's it, i'm officially on the #magicout bandwagon. This deal signed, sealed and delivered it. I didn't think much of trading Lou Williams for Corey Brewer + 28 (even though we could have gotten something a lot more) because i was thinking they had something in mind, clearly this lot is as competent as Rob Hennigan in Orlando.

Thing is we had the chance for Jerry West, but we declined because of arrogance from the front office. Seriously, the more things change, the more they stay the same.......
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Re: Woj: Dlo & Moz to Nets for lopez and 27th pick 

Post#408 » by Duke4life831 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:30 am

I think it was a good trade for you guys. It seemed to have been known that Ingram was the untouchable guy and guy they want in future plans. It seems like the clear plans right now is to form a big 3 of Ingram/Ball/PG-13. Getting a 1st round pick back was huge as well. Ya its late 1st but this draft is super deep. Just a few guys that might be there at that time Harry Giles, Terrance Ferguson, Frank Jackson, DJ Wilson and Jordan Bell. There is a good chance you end up with 2 of those guys and all those guys are really high value for being late 1st. I also wont be shocked to see one of those picks traded to get rid of Deng's contract as well. You get rid of Deng's contract and all of a sudden you got a young core built around Ingram/Ball with a ton of cap space and PG-13 saying hes coming next year. Thats a really good situation.
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Re: Woj: Dlo & Moz to Nets for lopez and 27th pick 

Post#409 » by LakersSoul » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:35 am

Up-And-Coming wrote:On a positive note I think a lot of people are underrating the value of Brook Lopez. He is still only 29 years old and has been healthy for the last 3 seasons (he only was injured 2 of his 9 nba seasons) and is almost the prototypical center for the game today. A 7' 1" center who shoots and makes threes at a high rate and good percentage, can spread the floor and make free throws, and a legit shot blocking presence. He is also a local kid and this is his first time getting a fresh start on a new team. He imo is actually arguably a top 6 center and is on par with a player like Al Horford:

1. Gobert
2. Cousins
3. Gasol
4. Whiteside
5. Jordan
6. Lopez/Horford


In Brook's first 8 years, he did not shoot any 3s as he averaged no more than 0.2 attempts a game. Last year, Brook averaged 5.2 attempts and made 1.8 of them or 34.6% from long distance. He is adjusting to the new NBA. Brook just turned 29 in April and averages just under 2 blocks per game, over 2 assists per game and shot over 80% from FT line.

Again, best center the Lakers have had since forever. If you analyze the trade, its not a bad one.

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Re: Woj: Dlo & Moz to Nets for lopez and 27th pick 

Post#410 » by Laker_Kid » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:35 am

does anyone know if we have bird rights on Brook, and PG13 if we do get him? because if we do, this trade makes perfect sense. correct me if i'm wrong, i'm pretty clueless about salaries, but wouldn't we be able to sign 2 max players and then also resign them both next offseason?
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Re: Woj: Dlo & Moz to Nets for lopez and 27th pick 

Post#411 » by mos_def » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:40 am

Lopez is a decent player. They get another pick. It sucks that Russell was the 2nd pick.
Though Lopez may not rebound well, his offense is a plus and I think it fits well with Nance, who I think should play more minutes.
Nance was a former 27th pick. Get Ball to run PG, hope Ingram gets bigger and the two late picks can be serviceable bench players along with Zubac and Randle. If PG does sign he probably is a SG so that gives the team a big backcourt of 6'9 and 6'6. It has potential.

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Re: Woj: Dlo & Moz to Nets for lopez and 27th pick 

Post#412 » by Up-And-Coming » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:41 am

Laker_Kid wrote:does anyone know if we have bird rights on Brook and PG13 if we do get him? because if we do, this trade makes perfect sense. correct me if i'm wrong but wouldn't we be able to sign 2 max players and then also resign them both next offseason?


My thoughts exactly. I think we do. Just don't overpay for Paul George and somehow get rid of Deng's contract or stretch it out and then we are primed to sign a max contract player (maybe Lebron) and if we can get rid of Deng's contract we can sign another max contract.
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Re: Woj: Dlo & Moz to Nets for lopez and 27th pick 

Post#413 » by TheRealKaboom » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:42 am

TyCobb wrote:Magic's thoughts tonight:

Read on Twitter


:rofl:

We're in **** mourning here and he's **** talking about the **** Dodgers.

Well the good news about this whole situation is that Zu will now get valuable developmental minutes at ce . . . :-x :banghead: :giveup:
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Post#414 » by dockingsched » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:43 am

Laker_Kid wrote:does anyone know if we have bird rights on Brook, and PG13 if we do get him? because if we do, this trade makes perfect sense. correct me if i'm wrong, i'm pretty clueless about salaries, but wouldn't we be able to sign 2 max players and then also resign them both next offseason?

The thing with holding their bird rights is that even when their contract, their cap hold still counts against the cap. You'd have to renounce those bird rights in order to open up cap space.
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Re: Woj: Dlo & Moz to Nets for lopez and 27th pick 

Post#415 » by Spens1 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:43 am

TheRealKaboom wrote:
TyCobb wrote:Magic's thoughts tonight:

Read on Twitter


:rofl:

We're in **** mourning here and he's **** talking about the **** Dodgers.

Well the good news about this whole situation is that Zu will now get valuable developmental minutes at ce . . . :-x :banghead: :giveup:


glad to see where this idiots head is at. Seriously fire him immediately
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Post#416 » by TyCobb » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:49 am

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Re: Woj: Dlo & Moz to Nets for lopez and 27th pick 

Post#417 » by J_LA » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:51 am

Magic should probably consider taking classes on how to act as an adult. Forget the fact that he's the president of basketball operations for the number one franchise in sports. This guy is a clown 24/7. From dancing on lottery day to all kinds of childish ass tweets.
Bring back Jerry West or Mitch man.
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Re: Woj: Dlo & Moz to Nets for lopez and 27th pick 

Post#418 » by Speedlot » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:56 am

Stay positive bros. For those that want mitch back, we still got Deng for you guys to lick Mitch's stench off.
Here's hoping a superstar lands.
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Re: Woj: Dlo & Moz to Nets for lopez and 27th pick 

Post#419 » by SashaTheMachine » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:57 am

Man I'm still so angry. Should have given him one more year. I feel like we completely outplayed ourselves with this Paul George talk and magic made a ****, rushed move. My opinion, of course, but why go against everything being reported that the Lakers shouldn't trade their young assets for Paul George...directly or indirectly?
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Re: Woj: Dlo & Moz to Nets for lopez and 27th pick 

Post#420 » by Spens1 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:58 am

Speedlot wrote:Stay positive bros. For those that want mitch back, we still got Deng for you guys to lick Mitch's stench off.
Here's hoping a superstar lands.


so we're back to the era of hoping and begging for superstars to land on our doorstep. well thats great. worked so well in the past.

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