Woj: Dlo & Moz to Nets for lopez and 27th pick

[Kupchak9]

I dont understand what was the rush in dumping Mosgov or Deng so early. Couldnt they just waited a year and done a similar deal next season? At least see how Ball/D'lo workout. There's no way D'lo's value could plummet any lower than what it was used for in this trade... Mosgov would have been cheaper to dump and we would explore more options during the year. Seems like we made a deal simply just to get rid of him. What we got back isnt even enough to get George in a trade, which is ultimately the goal in Magic's mind, he wants him now. We're losing more and more leverage on the Pacers by making these hasty deals. Honestly, Prichard looks like he's taking Magic and Pelinka to school. KP is standing strong but the LA front office is looking sort of desperate here. They managed to maneuver us into trading our best player just so we camp dump salary and get a crappy pick (which KP probably led Magic to believe was something the Pacers actually valued). Hell we could have just stretched Mosgov if anything.

Now its coming out that KP is still adamant on getting the #2 pick for George. Magic has to play his hand here, and it wouldnt shock me if he does actually end up giving the pick just to get PG sooner.... So he would have essentially traded #2/Russell/Mosgov, just to get George a season early...

Magic doesn't think long-term. He's all about being in the moment and putting his feelings into action. Then when he gets in a rut he just puts on his "I'm Magic" face and tries to talk his way out of it. Should we not be able to land George in a trade this offseason, you can bet that "what if we just kept Russell" is going to be an ongoing theme all season long.

[Vae Victus]

Whats the most infuriating part of this deal is that if DLo was truly that expendable, then use him and one of Mozgov/Deng to get PG13.

Keep adding pieces to the base of DLo+Deng (#28, future 1st, cash, etc), until Indy says yes.

If Indy keeps holding their guns til draft day, then just go ahead an pick Lonzo at #2 and keep offering DLo+Deng+whatever when the #28 pick comes up and maybe Indy sees someone they really like drop and will then say yes.

Honestly, this move makes no sense whatsoever since we DONT HAVE PG13 SECURED YET!!! If PG13 was secured by say a Randle, Clarkson, #28 package, then trading DLo can be justifiable in that the team would rather play PG13 or Ingram at the 2 instead of DLo. But the fact we just murdered our leverage over Indy has given them the balls to extort us for way more than they should be getting.

Cuz our greatest leverage worst case no PG13 scenario was, "ok we'll just roll with the young bucks then, good luck with a delinquint PG13". Now its, "WE NEED PG13, GIMME NAO!" and Indy responds with, "yea sure, give us Ingram or #2, and we dont want your **** contracts either".

[TyCobb]

5 and 1's in 20 minutes... lol

Yall see what you fear instead of the actual reality. That cant be healthy.

Opening up salary cap immediately for George in '18, gives back the Lakers leverage in negotiations for George. They are running out of time. KP's timeframe is the draft and the clock is ticking. Lakers dont have to give in at all to the demands.

[Laker_Kid]

Whats the most infuriating part of this deal is that if DLo was truly that expendable, then use him and one of Mozgov/Deng to get PG13.

Keep adding pieces to the base of DLo+Deng (#28, future 1st, cash, etc), until Indy says yes.

If Indy keeps holding their guns til draft day, then just go ahead an pick Lonzo at #2 and keep offering DLo+Deng+whatever when the #28 pick comes up and maybe Indy sees someone they really like drop and will then say yes.

Honestly, this move makes no sense whatsoever since we DONT HAVE PG13 SECURED YET!!! If PG13 was secured by say a Randle, Clarkson, #28 package, then trading DLo can be justifiable in that the team would rather play PG13 or Ingram at the 2 instead of DLo. But the fact we just murdered our leverage over Indy has given them the balls to extort us for way more than they should be getting.

Cuz our greatest leverage worst case no PG13 scenario was, "ok we'll just roll with the young bucks then, good luck with a delinquint PG13". Now its, "WE NEED PG13, GIMME NAO!" and Indy responds with, "yea sure, give us Ingram or #2, and we dont want your **** contracts either".

1. Deng+Dlo for PG13 won't match salaries
2. We can't secure PG13 without capspace
3. We can still roll with the young bucks, and now have flexibility for next offseason

[Slava]

5 and 1's in 20 minutes... lol

Yall see what you fear instead of the actual reality. That cant be healthy.

Opening up salary cap immediately for George in '18, gives back the Lakers leverage in negotiations for George. They are running out of time. KP's timeframe is the draft and the clock is ticking. Lakers dont have to give in at all to the demands.

That's how they sell you this mirage. PG is coming now, Lebron is coming next year, Westbrook is coming the year after that.... we've been through this before and that ended with Kupchak and Jimbo holding their dicks in their hands and overpaying for Deng and Mozgov.

[TyCobb]

5 and 1's in 20 minutes... lol

Yall see what you fear instead of the actual reality. That cant be healthy.

Opening up salary cap immediately for George in '18, gives back the Lakers leverage in negotiations for George. They are running out of time. KP's timeframe is the draft and the clock is ticking. Lakers dont have to give in at all to the demands.

That's how they sell you this mirage. PG is coming now, Lebron is coming next year, Westbrook is coming the year after that.... we've been through this before and that ended with Kupchak and Jimbo holding their dicks in their hands and overpaying for Deng and Mozgov.

Bro theyve been fired. We have new people in charge not only fixing their mistakes but actively getting positive attention.

Now which is it? Mitch that signed those two trash FA or what you said recently how Mitch would school these dudes with this leverage in trades?

Lets just stick with facts here and not let our judgment get clouded with previous regimes PTSD enducing choices.

[Slava]

5 and 1's in 20 minutes... lol

Yall see what you fear instead of the actual reality. That cant be healthy.

Opening up salary cap immediately for George in '18, gives back the Lakers leverage in negotiations for George. They are running out of time. KP's timeframe is the draft and the clock is ticking. Lakers dont have to give in at all to the demands.

That's how they sell you this mirage. PG is coming now, Lebron is coming next year, Westbrook is coming the year after that.... we've been through this before and that ended with Kupchak and Jimbo holding their dicks in their hands and overpaying for Deng and Mozgov.

Bro theyve been fired. We have new people in charge not only fixing their mistakes but actively getting positive attention.

Now which is it? Mitch that signed those two trash FA or what you said recently how Mitch would school these dudes with this leverage in trades?

Lets just stick with facts here and not let our judgment get clouded with previous regimes PTSD enducing choices.

Mitch sucked in free agency but I can only ever remember him losing the Steve Nash trade in his 16 years as a GM. More importantly he'd walk away from a trade before he crosses a line he drew in negotiations. For example he was quite happy to lose Pau for nothing over taking a second from Cleveland when Cavs balked at adding a 1st. He wouldn't say we're not adding young players in salary dumps and then reverse course within a day to add Russell in a salary dump. Those kinds of reversals bite us in the ass in future negotiations when people know you bluffed and failed before.

You say we've learned from our mistakes but all I see is the management again making ass backwards decisions to chase big name free agents, only this time they have cultivated sources who know how to deliver positive media.

[TyCobb]

Celtics reportedly rejected #3 for Butler straight up. Now why the hell would Pritchard think he could get the #2 for an expiring contract who is signing with the team that owns the #2 pick when he becomes a FA in 2018?

This is just Pritchard showing his fanbase he tried and tried to get a remarkable return for their franchise player, but in the end he will cave to our two late 1sts and Clarkson/Randle package.

[Slava]

Celtics reportedly rejected #3 for Butler straight up. Now why the hell would Pritchard think he could get the #2 for an expiring contract who is signing with the team that owns the #2 pick when he becomes a FA in 2018?

This is just Pritchard showing his fanbase he tried and tried to get a remarkable return for their franchise player, but in the end he will cave to our two late 1sts and Clarkson/Randle package.

I guess we'll know soon.

[rango]

can't really understand how some people are ok with this deal. i liked dlo, but like many got really frustrated with him during this last season. inconsistent, 20 8 9 games followed by 5 1 2 games, bad attitude, etc.

but you don't sell that low a guy that averaged 20 5 5 basically after all star. if he could do that for a full season his value would go up, and with lonzo and maybe george he def would look way better. if you don't believe his a superstar, trade him with his value up. not to mention having guys like ding write **** about him, wtf? if hes really that poison around, keep it inside, dont drag his value like that.

recommend eric pincus podcast that he just released. there he talks about this and also the fact that dlo, randle and george have the same agent, and pg13 would like to play with them. i really think that our FO wouldnt make such a idiot mistake like pissing off pg and his agent at this point.

and if you guys think that lebron is going to team up with us next off season... man, that's some big leap right there. FO can't have this line up with lebron, there's so much to happen.

if we were set in lonzo as pg and thought that he and dlo wouldn't be ok together, then fine, but DA tweets last night suggests that we're willing to pay big price for pg 13.

anyway, this whole thing sucks. this FO seems to hit that panic button pretty quick

[dockingsched]

I've been a huge supporter of DLo and think he'll do great things, but for those frustrated with the trade, id say use it as a time to try to understand why this trade happened and why now, may be some of the concerns circling him were bigger than we as fans could know.

Beat writers, coaching moves, some coaching comments have always hinted at some frustration with his maturity, his atttiude. When magic and Pelinka moved in, the thing they always repeated over and over and over again was changing the culture, to always strive for excellence.

I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt that despite all his potential, DLo wasn't viewed as part of that culture here. Perhaps this trade boosts him into overcoming the concerns about his atttiude, but that doesn't mean he would've done it here. Perhaps the team didn't want to deal with him for another season, wanted a fresh start with whom ever they bring in at number 2 or trade for.

We'll never really know how toxic that atttiude was, it's part of what we as fans just get to biasedly form an opinion on and some of us gave him the benefit of the doubt, and some didn't.

For now, just gotta wait and see where this 2018 free agency frenzy ultimately ends up. There was no guarantees about where the current rebuild if left untouched was eventually going to end up, it was all just hope at this point. Now this front office is selling a different type of hope, no reason not to give it a chance and see where it goes.

[Pointgod]

I dont understand what was the rush in dumping Mosgov or Deng so early. Couldnt they just waited a year and done a similar deal next season? At least see how Ball/D'lo workout. There's no way D'lo's value could plummet any lower than what it was used for in this trade... Mosgov would have been cheaper to dump and we would explore more options during the year. Seems like we made a deal simply just to get rid of him. What we got back isnt even enough to get George in a trade, which is ultimately the goal in Magic's mind, he wants him now. We're losing more and more leverage on the Pacers by making these hasty deals. Honestly, Prichard looks like he's taking Magic and Pelinka to school. KP is standing strong but the LA front office is looking sort of desperate here. They managed to maneuver us into trading our best player just so we camp dump salary and get a crappy pick (which KP probably led Magic to believe was something the Pacers actually valued). Hell we could have just stretched Mosgov if anything.

Now its coming out that KP is still adamant on getting the #2 pick for George. Magic has to play his hand here, and it wouldnt shock me if he does actually end up giving the pick just to get PG sooner.... So he would have essentially traded #2/Russell/Mosgov, just to get George a season early...

Magic doesn't think long-term. He's all about being in the moment and putting his feelings into action. Then when he gets in a rut he just puts on his "I'm Magic" face and tries to talk his way out of it. Should we not be able to land George in a trade this offseason, you can bet that "what if we just kept Russell" is going to be an ongoing theme all season long.

If you wait till next off-season D'angelo's value could have gone down or team's would just ask for more because they know you're desperate. Sacramento gave two first round picks to clear cap space. So did Golden State. Thi

[Lakernut4ever]

All we wish for the Laker front office is to be more patient and more intelligent in trading our assets that we tanked so hard for the last few years...Do not do anymore lopsided trades just to shed salary just to get a big name star. Laker fans do not want to do another cycle of painful rebuilding when the accumulated assets evaporate in our eyes because of stupid decisions by the front office.

[Spanish_Laker]

These fools, Magic and Rob, have panicked too early. 0 patience, that's not the way to build a winning team in LA.

[Pointgod]

5 and 1's in 20 minutes... lol

Yall see what you fear instead of the actual reality. That cant be healthy.

Opening up salary cap immediately for George in '18, gives back the Lakers leverage in negotiations for George. They are running out of time. KP's timeframe is the draft and the clock is ticking. Lakers dont have to give in at all to the demands.

That's how they sell you this mirage. PG is coming now, Lebron is coming next year, Westbrook is coming the year after that.... we've been through this before and that ended with Kupchak and Jimbo holding their dicks in their hands and overpaying for Deng and Mozgov.

The difference is that Magic actually attracts free agents while Jim and Mitch repelled them. How many times during the Mitch era did a star player force his way to the Lakers?

[Lakernut4ever]

I sure wish somebody in the Laker front office is reading these posts and just grow a brain...

[Spanish_Laker]

I sure wish somebody in the Laker front office is reading these posts and just grow a brain...

Magic hasn't posted anything on Instagram or Twitter I think since the trade. He knows he is going to get harrassed by outragerous Laker fans.

[Slava]

5 and 1's in 20 minutes... lol

Yall see what you fear instead of the actual reality. That cant be healthy.

Opening up salary cap immediately for George in '18, gives back the Lakers leverage in negotiations for George. They are running out of time. KP's timeframe is the draft and the clock is ticking. Lakers dont have to give in at all to the demands.

That's how they sell you this mirage. PG is coming now, Lebron is coming next year, Westbrook is coming the year after that.... we've been through this before and that ended with Kupchak and Jimbo holding their dicks in their hands and overpaying for Deng and Mozgov.

The difference is that Magic actually attracts free agents while Jim and Mitch repelled them. How many times during the Mitch era did a star player force his way to the Lakers?

How many times has a star player forced his way to the Lakers with Magic? Lets not count our chickens until the eggs hatch.

[PKABOOICU]

Somebody tell me that everything is going to be alright....

Don't worry bro, Ball is coming on Thursday.

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[ak7]

I sure wish somebody in the Laker front office is reading these posts and just grow a brain...

Well if they didn't have a brain and were able to not only exist as a living human being, but also as an NBA Front Office exec I'd question why some of the guys here have brains and do/say way less intelligent things.