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Post#1881 » by DeRoma » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:18 am

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I"m just joking :D Just think having both Lin and Russ we will go for an athletic Big who can shoot the ball


then it wont be bam. he isnt a shooter

Ok we will see i'll bet money on drafting either Bam, Bell, DJ, or OG at the 22nd if we don't trade anymore.
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Re: Brooklyn Nets 2017 Draft Thread 

Post#1882 » by Prokorov » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:23 am

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DeRoma wrote:I"m just joking :D Just think having both Lin and Russ we will go for an athletic Big who can shoot the ball


then it wont be bam. he isnt a shooter

Ok we will see i'll bet money on drafting either Bam, Bell, DJ, or OG at the 22nd if we don't trade anymore.


i think OG goes 10-14. but id love him. i can see bell or DJ

i think maybe we can take bam in the 40-50 range if we buy a pick. i dont see him as a first round pick. he is basically a right handed trevor booker
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Post#1883 » by DeRoma » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:28 am

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then it wont be bam. he isnt a shooter

Ok we will see i'll bet money on drafting either Bam, Bell, DJ, or OG at the 22nd if we don't trade anymore.


i think OG goes 10-14. but id love him. i can see bell or DJ

i think maybe we can take bam in the 40-50 range if we buy a pick. i dont see him as a first round pick. he is basically a right handed trevor booker

I have no idea why you think so lowly of Bam when you have no justification in doing so. Like I said from the very beginning Bam will most likely be gone by the late teens or early 20s. While you keep on insisting he will fall off with lack of evidence. While everyone knows his draft stock is rising. :crazy:

Not arguing with you with this.
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Re: Brooklyn Nets 2017 Draft Thread 

Post#1884 » by Ror1997 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:38 am

I think if OG or Justin Jackson drop to 22, we pounce. If not, we grab a C. I could see them drafting Giles but Idk if I want them to.

My big board for players possibly available around 22 is
OG
Jackson
Bell
Semi
Ike

I think the draft will be a good indication of our free agency plan. Drafting a Big would indicate us throwing money at a perimeter player. Drafting a wing would indicate us throwing money at a big man. Draft and stash would also indicate big man.
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Post#1885 » by FlipFlopShot » Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:11 am

Ror1997 wrote:I think if OG or Justin Jackson drop to 22, we pounce. If not, we grab a C. I could see them drafting Giles but Idk if I want them to.

My big board for players possibly available around 22 is
OG
Jackson
Bell
Semi
Ike

I think the draft will be a good indication of our free agency plan. Drafting a Big would indicate us throwing money at a perimeter player. Drafting a wing would indicate us throwing money at a big man. Draft and stash would also indicate big man.


I feel like we're going to make a run for Milsap.
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Re: Brooklyn Nets 2017 Draft Thread 

Post#1886 » by Prokorov » Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:53 am

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DeRoma wrote:Ok we will see i'll bet money on drafting either Bam, Bell, DJ, or OG at the 22nd if we don't trade anymore.


i think OG goes 10-14. but id love him. i can see bell or DJ

i think maybe we can take bam in the 40-50 range if we buy a pick. i dont see him as a first round pick. he is basically a right handed trevor booker

I have no idea why you think so lowly of Bam when you have no justification in doing so. Like I said from the very beginning Bam will most likely be gone by the late teens or early 20s. While you keep on insisting he will fall off with lack of evidence. While everyone knows his draft stock is rising. :crazy:

Not arguing with you with this.


what "evidence" do you want? like a sworn affidavit from all 30 GMs? In seriousness....

* You keep saying he is a big who can shoot. you want to talk about "no justification"? Bam took ZERO three pointers in college. zero. like not even a half court heave at the buzzer. Can we see him actually make a 3 pointer in a real game before calling him a shooter?

* Some question his size to play Center in the NBA and list him as more of a PF. He is built and athletic but is shorter. More like derrick favors who also never worked out at center.

*Offensively his game is limited... or maybe better push he hasnt shown the ability to do alot on offense yet and wasnt asked to. didnt do much in pick and roll or in the post. i love that he dunks everything but a high volume of his points were transition or second chance.

*Defensively he was good but not great. and if he measured out as a legit center at 6'10" without shoes id be all over it. but he came in shorter to where i view him as a PF

I just really dont see what seperates him from Trevor Booker. to me he is likely to fall somewhere between what booker is now and what favors is now. which id be fine with. with a late first you should be happy to get a 10+ year role guy like that... but for me it comes down to 2 things:

1) if we draft a big i need to know he is a center

2) i want that big to be someone who can stretch the floor or an elite defender

as far as "evidence" im not sure what you want. none of know what the scouts think. 2 drafts ago i was all over montrez harrell and wanted us to trade UP to get him. he shot up into the mid teens in the last mocks, then got picked in the second round. then you have guys like caris never mocked in the first who we take at #21.

these mocks are mostly about inside info... the beat writers have their connections and fill out their mocks based more on what they hear then any kind of analysis on the players themselves.

until woj does a mock, it will always be wildly off.
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Re: Brooklyn Nets 2017 Draft Thread 

Post#1887 » by Prokorov » Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:56 am

Ror1997 wrote:I think if OG or Justin Jackson drop to 22, we pounce. If not, we grab a C. I could see them drafting Giles but Idk if I want them to.

My big board for players possibly available around 22 is
OG
Jackson
Bell
Semi
Ike

I think the draft will be a good indication of our free agency plan. Drafting a Big would indicate us throwing money at a perimeter player. Drafting a wing would indicate us throwing money at a big man. Draft and stash would also indicate big man.


it sucks the draft comes first... if we knew our free agency results we could then draft for fit better... although i think we just need to go best player amongs wings and centers.

why wouldnt you want giles? for me he is the clear #1 if he makes it.

Giles
Patton
Semi
OG
Mitchell
Iwundu
Motley
Ike
Pascesniks
Robinson
Bacon
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Re: Brooklyn Nets 2017 Draft Thread 

Post#1888 » by Prokorov » Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:57 am

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Ror1997 wrote:I think if OG or Justin Jackson drop to 22, we pounce. If not, we grab a C. I could see them drafting Giles but Idk if I want them to.

My big board for players possibly available around 22 is
OG
Jackson
Bell
Semi
Ike

I think the draft will be a good indication of our free agency plan. Drafting a Big would indicate us throwing money at a perimeter player. Drafting a wing would indicate us throwing money at a big man. Draft and stash would also indicate big man.


I feel like we're going to make a run for Milsap.


after the trade for russell i dont think milsap makes sense... i think we are better served using that 30 million for young RFAs or salary dumps for picks.
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Re: Brooklyn Nets 2017 Draft Thread 

Post#1889 » by Ror1997 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:36 pm

Prokorov wrote:
Ror1997 wrote:I think if OG or Justin Jackson drop to 22, we pounce. If not, we grab a C. I could see them drafting Giles but Idk if I want them to.

My big board for players possibly available around 22 is
OG
Jackson
Bell
Semi
Ike

I think the draft will be a good indication of our free agency plan. Drafting a Big would indicate us throwing money at a perimeter player. Drafting a wing would indicate us throwing money at a big man. Draft and stash would also indicate big man.


it sucks the draft comes first... if we knew our free agency results we could then draft for fit better... although i think we just need to go best player amongs wings and centers.

why wouldnt you want giles? for me he is the clear #1 if he makes it.

Giles
Patton
Semi
OG
Mitchell
Iwundu
Motley
Ike
Pascesniks
Robinson
Bacon


I wouldn't want Giles because I'm just overly cautious. Even after it worked out with LeVert, im still nervous about it.

If Marks and KA draft him I want it to be because He's healthy not because of what he can be when He's healthy. If they don't know for sure that He's healthy then I'm not ok with it. If they say He's healthy, I trust their judgment.
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Re: Brooklyn Nets 2017 Draft Thread 

Post#1890 » by shakendfries » Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:53 pm

With a little over 24 hours before the draft, it's time for us to get honest about it.

Every reputable draftnik has agreed that there is a significant talent dropoff after the top 10.

There are two levels to the potential 'fools gold' prospects that people looking at prospects late draft are getting excited for.

There's the players who posted awful statistics in college, but are physically gifted (Harry Giles, Ike Anibogu, OG Anunoby)

There's the players who had decent stats, but their skill set probably won't translate into a long NBA career (Justin Jackson, Bam Adebayo, Ivan Rabb)

And then there's the fact that none of the Danny Ainge's Nets picks have amounted to anything special yet (Marcus Smart is pretty good and the jury is out on Jaylen Brown, but Olynik & Terry Rozier are pretty meh).

All together, while I'd be ecstatic for the Nets to draft the next Giannis or Jokic All-Star caliber player with their pick, I hope I'm wrong but I doubt that'll happen.
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Post#1891 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jun 21, 2017 2:15 pm

shakendfries wrote:With a little over 24 hours before the draft, it's time for us to get honest about it.

Every reputable draftnik has agreed that there is a significant talent dropoff after the top 10.

There are two levels to the potential 'fools gold' prospects that people looking at prospects late draft are getting excited for.

There's the players who posted awful statistics in college, but are physically gifted (Harry Giles, Ike Anibogu, OG Anunoby)

There's the players who had decent stats, but their skill set probably won't translate into a long NBA career (Justin Jackson, Bam Adebayo, Ivan Rabb)

And then there's the fact that none of the Danny Ainge's Nets picks have amounted to anything special yet (Marcus Smart is pretty good and the jury is out on Jaylen Brown, but Olynik & Terry Rozier are pretty meh).

All together, while I'd be ecstatic for the Nets to draft the next Giannis or Jokic All-Star caliber player with their pick, I hope I'm wrong but I doubt that'll happen.


we just need to draft a big man that can be developed into a starter down the line.
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Post#1892 » by kamaze » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:24 pm

I got my fingers crossed they draft a healthy center to pair up with Mozgov.
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Post#1893 » by Mkdaman1818 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:33 pm

Really good article on where the Nets are going and how we're set up for tomorrow's draft:

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Post#1894 » by Paradise » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:57 pm

Sean Marks nuked my big board right before I was going to post it :lol:

Forwards

1. Anunoby
2. J. Jackson
3. Wilson
4. Olejeye
5. Bolden
--
Bell
J. Collins


Centers

1. Patton
2. Giles
3. Anibougu
4. Adebayo
5. Pasecniks
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Rabb
Bradley



Pasecniks becomes a little less likely to me considering he may not come over this season.



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Post#1895 » by CalamityX12 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:21 pm

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Post#1896 » by vincecarter4pres » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:27 pm

CalamityX12 wrote:OT - https://www.blazersedge.com/2017/6/20/15840830/portland-trail-blazers-trade-rumors-nba-draft-meyers-leonard

said they want to keep the 15th but open to moving the 20 & 26

They want to keep the 15th, but that's going to be a tough task if they want to move any of those 3 albatross contracts.

I'm pretty confident Marks is going to find away to get 15 from them, but we're going to wind up eating almost an entirety of one of those deals.

I'm just praying it's not Turner, he's such a flow killer.
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Post#1897 » by CalamityX12 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:29 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:
CalamityX12 wrote:OT - https://www.blazersedge.com/2017/6/20/15840830/portland-trail-blazers-trade-rumors-nba-draft-meyers-leonard

said they want to keep the 15th but open to moving the 20 & 26

They want to keep the 15th, but that's going to be a tough task if they want to move any of those 3 albatross contracts.

I'm pretty confident Marks is going to find away to get 15 from them, but we're going to wind up eating almost an entirety of one of those deals.

I'm just praying it's not Turner, he's such a flow killer.

I've been an advocate for Leonard. He's capable of knocking the 3 too so he fits off. system wise... i doubt he offers much defensively.
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Post#1898 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:33 pm

I don't think that it would be prudent to take on another bad deal.
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Post#1899 » by DeRoma » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:40 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:
CalamityX12 wrote:OT - https://www.blazersedge.com/2017/6/20/15840830/portland-trail-blazers-trade-rumors-nba-draft-meyers-leonard

said they want to keep the 15th but open to moving the 20 & 26

They want to keep the 15th, but that's going to be a tough task if they want to move any of those 3 albatross contracts.

I'm pretty confident Marks is going to find away to get 15 from them, but we're going to wind up eating almost an entirety of one of those deals.

I'm just praying it's not Turner, he's such a flow killer.

If they don't want to trade their 15th pick? fine. Then they can also take Nicholson's contract alongside. :)
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Re: Brooklyn Nets 2017 Draft Thread 

Post#1900 » by DeRoma » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:45 pm

Don't forget Milwakee is another candidate for a salary dump. Especially knowing that Millsap is pretty much available for them.

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