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Post#1901 » by TheProdigy » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:15 pm

kmgarnett21 wrote:Darren Wolfson tweeting about trading back to 9 with the Mavs. Even hinted at the possibility of involving Rubio. Wasn't really specific.

I'd be fine with taking Collins at 7. Probably one of the few here who would be OK with it.

I would be ok with it too. If Isaac is gone, then Collins is probably the best fit.
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Post#1902 » by LeJohn Harden » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:18 pm

I disagree with taking Collins at 7. I say if Isaac is gone then we look to trade back with Portland and try to get 2 of Ike/OG/Leaf
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Post#1903 » by Baseline81 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:19 pm

kmgarnett21 wrote:Darren Wolfson tweeting about trading back to 9 with the Mavs. Even hinted at the possibility of involving Rubio. Wasn't really specific.

I'd be fine with taking Collins at 7. Probably one of the few here who would be OK with it.

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Re: 2017 Draft Thread 

Post#1904 » by HitmanCapone » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:20 pm

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kmgarnett21 wrote:Darren Wolfson tweeting about trading back to 9 with the Mavs. Even hinted at the possibility of involving Rubio. Wasn't really specific.

I'd be fine with taking Collins at 7. Probably one of the few here who would be OK with it.

I would be ok with it too. If Isaac is gone, then Collins is probably the best fit.

How can you already be fine with it without knowing what we're getting back? We're giving up the only player who should have value and moving back 2 spots and you're fine? I guess I'm just confused.

I'd be okay with a Rubio/7 for Barnes/9 swap I think but ideally I'd like to see the board first.
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Post#1905 » by RiseoftheWolves » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:20 pm

Agree with Thibs when he said that we're just not drafting rookies for 1 year (in reference to Dunn). Some people are too quick to write these young players off. Dunn will get better with time.
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread 

Post#1906 » by MN7725 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:23 pm

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DaKidKG wrote:
kmgarnett21 wrote:Darren Wolfson tweeting about trading back to 9 with the Mavs. Even hinted at the possibility of involving Rubio. Wasn't really specific.

I'd be fine with taking Collins at 7. Probably one of the few here who would be OK with it.

I would be ok with it too. If Isaac is gone, then Collins is probably the best fit.

How can you already be fine with it without knowing what we're getting back? We're giving up the only player who should have value and moving back 2 spots and you're fine? I guess I'm just confused.

I'd be okay with a Rubio/7 for Barnes/9 swap I think but ideally I'd like to see the board first.


Wolves should not trade unless it's up before the draft.

Isaac may be there
Jackson could fall because of character/shot issues

Crazier things have happened
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Post#1907 » by LeJohn Harden » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:24 pm

I believe that if Boston takes Tatum then we will get Isaac.
No way Phoenix likes Isaac over Jackson.
Orlando should take DSJ since they already have Gordon who is a bit similar to Isaac.
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread 

Post#1908 » by Klomp » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:26 pm

HitmanCapone wrote:
DaKidKG wrote:
kmgarnett21 wrote:Darren Wolfson tweeting about trading back to 9 with the Mavs. Even hinted at the possibility of involving Rubio. Wasn't really specific.

I'd be fine with taking Collins at 7. Probably one of the few here who would be OK with it.

I would be ok with it too. If Isaac is gone, then Collins is probably the best fit.

How can you already be fine with it without knowing what we're getting back? We're giving up the only player who should have value and moving back 2 spots and you're fine? I guess I'm just confused.

I'd be okay with a Rubio/7 for Barnes/9 swap I think but ideally I'd like to see the board first.

Read what was written...

"I'd be fine with taking Collins at 7"
"I would be ok with it too."

Nowhere did he say he was fine with a trade he didn't know the terms to.
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread 

Post#1909 » by TwolvesFanRome » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:29 pm

I would be fine with Collins too.
How about his shot range? Is it similar to Markkanen?

I really like Mark but I think in the long period Collins > Mark.
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread 

Post#1910 » by HitmanCapone » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:31 pm

Klomp wrote:
HitmanCapone wrote:
DaKidKG wrote:I would be ok with it too. If Isaac is gone, then Collins is probably the best fit.

How can you already be fine with it without knowing what we're getting back? We're giving up the only player who should have value and moving back 2 spots and you're fine? I guess I'm just confused.

I'd be okay with a Rubio/7 for Barnes/9 swap I think but ideally I'd like to see the board first.

Read what was written...

"I'd be fine with taking Collins at 7"
"I would be ok with it too."

Nowhere did he say he was fine with a trade he didn't know the terms to.

Pay me no attention. I probably shouldn't be commenting while only paying half ass attention. All apologies
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread 

Post#1911 » by MN7725 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:38 pm

TwolvesFanRome wrote:I would be fine with Collins too.
How about his shot range? Is it similar to Markkanen?

I really like Mark but I think in the long period Collins > Mark.


Impossible to say with Collins
He didn't play much in college, didn't start until he was a senior in high school either

He's been good whenever he has played but can't really compare him to a guy like Lauri who has huge volume in college and international play
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread 

Post#1912 » by Worm Guts » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:39 pm

TwolvesFanRome wrote:I would be fine with Collins too.
How about his shot range? Is it similar to Markkanen?

I really like Mark but I think in the long period Collins > Mark.


Collins didn't shoot many 3's, although he made a good percentage. Everything about Collins sounds good, except that he played limited minutes in a small conference. I would think a lot would need to depend on the individual workout, if we had one.
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread 

Post#1913 » by Klomp » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:40 pm

With what Thibs was saying today, I feel like the two players it fit the most were Z. Collins and Isaac.

-Defense, toughness, perimeter shooting from the post positions
-Also mentioned that they'll be ready to react accordingly if a player maybe drops unexpectedly (Isaac)
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread 

Post#1914 » by wolves_89 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:44 pm

Worm Guts wrote:
TwolvesFanRome wrote:I would be fine with Collins too.
How about his shot range? Is it similar to Markkanen?

I really like Mark but I think in the long period Collins > Mark.


Collins didn't shoot many 3's, although he made a good percentage. Everything about Collins sounds good, except that he played limited minutes in a small conference. I would think a lot would need to depend on the individual workout, if we had one.


I'm curious if anyone knows why Collins didn't play more minutes. Did he have some injury concern, foul problems, or the coach just didn't play him?
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread 

Post#1915 » by TwolvesFanRome » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:46 pm

Actually I can't believe that this man can fall at #10 or below...

https://youtu.be/4Ly5yzDL5Wk

He seems to me a better fit (Def/Reb) than Mark...even though he has not the offensive skill of Mark (I love Mark for his offensive profile)...

Anyway he can stretch the floor...I am wrong?
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread 

Post#1916 » by MN7725 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:48 pm

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TwolvesFanRome wrote:I would be fine with Collins too.
How about his shot range? Is it similar to Markkanen?

I really like Mark but I think in the long period Collins > Mark.


Collins didn't shoot many 3's, although he made a good percentage. Everything about Collins sounds good, except that he played limited minutes in a small conference. I would think a lot would need to depend on the individual workout, if we had one.


I'm curious if anyone knows why Collins didn't play more minutes. Did he have some injury concern, foul problems, or the coach just didn't play him?


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Re: 2017 Draft Thread 

Post#1917 » by MN7725 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:51 pm

TwolvesFanRome wrote:Actually I can't believe that this man can fall at #10 or below...

https://youtu.be/4Ly5yzDL5Wk

He seems to me a better fit (Def/Reb) than Mark...even though he has not the offensive skill of Mark (I love Mark for his offensive profile)...

Anyway he can stretch the floor...I am wrong?


Attempted 21 colleges 3s

Maybe? Maybe not?

74% on FT, which is good predictive
But totally unknown
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread 

Post#1918 » by LeJohn Harden » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:56 pm

How would you guys feel about potentially trading the pick for Millsap?
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Post#1919 » by wolves_89 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:59 pm

LeJohn Harden wrote:How would you guys feel about potentially trading the pick for Millsap?


Not sure why we would trade for Millsap who is an unrestricted free agent. If he wanted to come to Minnesota the Wolves have $33-34M in cap space (assuming they let Muhammad leave) and could sign him outright. There's little reason to do a sign-and-trade with the Hawks.
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Re: 2017 Draft Thread 

Post#1920 » by TheProdigy » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:59 pm

LeJohn Harden wrote:How would you guys feel about potentially trading the pick for Millsap?

That seems like a steep price for a guy that is on the back end of his prime and due for a huge pay day. I'd rather hold onto the pick and see if he hits free agency.

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