This offseason

[Hello Brooklyn]

*sees Blake Griffin mentioned*

Be averse to getting a superstar caliber player?

This isn't 2013 bro.

They days of Blake Griffin being a Superstar are over.

[NyCeEvO]

Dont think Marks is targeting Noel. If Marks wanted Noel then he woulda asked for Deng instead of Mozgov. Having Mozgov and Noel eating up 41 mil a year at C is a terrible proposition. With Mozgov getting so minimal PT unable to fluff his trade value to dump him.

Go for a star PF or bust. Woo Blake Griffin and Paul Milsap, if the team whiffs, then go play the absorb contracts for picks game. Offer Blake a 1+1 player option, giving him flexibility in bailing on us if he doesnt like how things go, Milsap likely wants the megamax due to age.

Pick the best PF/C prospect possible with pick.

Gallinari can be attractive if the price is right.

Greg Monrone + MIL 1st, if they want to be players in FA. He's only got 1 year left

Rudy Gay on an incentive laden deal perhaps, doubtful but worth kicking the tires on if theres some spare money.

Lotta options to fill-in at PF, to start in front or backup RHJ.

I don't understand what would be so terrible about starting Mozgov and Noel. I actually think they complement each other.

Mozgov and Noel do complement each other...in 2010.

In today's league, you need to have a 4 guys who are capable scorers. Lin, Russell, and Levert do not possess enough talent to overcome the offensive struggles we would face when defenses load up on them and force Noel and Mozgov to score.

Why would we waste all of our money on Blake Griffin or Milsap?

Griffin has shown an inability to stay healthy for the past 8 years and Milsap is in his 30s and mediocre.

Even though his health is a legitimate problem, why would Blake Griffin or Millsap give up any desire to compete just to join the Nets? Their window to win is over the next 2-4 seasons. We'll be looking to compete in 4 years time. If the Nets don't think they can dramatically improve their team in any other fashion within the next 4 seasons, then go ahead and give them a max contract. But it just doesn't make sense to me to waste both their time and our time going after players who want to win now even though we're not at a stage to do that yet.

You keep talking about rookies that are available at 22 but what are the chances they are as good as Noel? Most of these kids are busts.

Tis true.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Our lineup for next year should be

Russell
LeVert
Kilpatrick
RHJ
Mozgov

I don't care about Lin. He's better as a backup anyway.

I don't buy this whole "Russell is actually a SG" nonsense.

This is a Point Guard's league now. Russell needs to learn to play at that position and have the ball in his hands. Him and Lin are not going to work. And I'm totally opposed to moving LeVert to the 3 as well.

[shakendfries]

if the Nets want to move up, the smart deal is to trade Kilpatrick or Booker to do it. not your productive players on rookie scale contracts

If that's all it takes to get it done they'd do it, but it's tough to see them getting more than 5 spots higher just by adding either of those guys.

Also, nobody is saying they should be trying to get rid of RHJ. He's just their most tradeable asset that doesn't fully fit into the new offensive system. So if somebody falls that they really like, for argument sake lets say it's someone they rate significantly higher than LeVert was rated last year, I think it's likely they would move RHJ in a deal to try to get that player.

Exactly. It takes two to tango.

Unless you're a team in dire straights to salary dump, no one is giving up a pick below 20 if the center of the deal is Booker or Kilpatrick. RHJ would the most desired available asset that teams would look for in compensation for trading a sub-20 pick.

or Jeremy Lin

[Netaman]

I have a hard time seeing any veteran with alternative options (Millsap, Griffin) come here willingly. Yes, there may be less overall money on the market this year due to cap room being tighter, but still don't think those top guys are the ones who will get squeezed.

Otto Porter seems like the most likely plan A, and depending on how the draft shakes out I'm sure there will some re-evaluation if the depth chart changes further. Who knows what plans B, C, D will be, but based on everything we did last year (especially the DMo offer) it's safe to say Marks will explore everything. Dedmon or Noel could make sense. I even think Ibaka or Mirotic could make sense at the right price if we strike out on other targets.

[Mirotic12]

doesnt prokorov own CSKA?

He used to own CSKA. When he was on the board of Norilsk Nickel. And he had a deal with them to sponsor the club. But then he left the company, and when he did, he also sold CSKA. Then the company's board took over the sponsorship of the club.

So its financed and owned by that company now, and run by some Putin friendly oligarch. So Prokhorov doesn't have any say in anything with the club anymore.

[FlipFlopShot]

If that's all it takes to get it done they'd do it, but it's tough to see them getting more than 5 spots higher just by adding either of those guys.

Also, nobody is saying they should be trying to get rid of RHJ. He's just their most tradeable asset that doesn't fully fit into the new offensive system. So if somebody falls that they really like, for argument sake lets say it's someone they rate significantly higher than LeVert was rated last year, I think it's likely they would move RHJ in a deal to try to get that player.

Exactly. It takes two to tango.

Unless you're a team in dire straights to salary dump, no one is giving up a pick below 20 if the center of the deal is Booker or Kilpatrick. RHJ would the most desired available asset that teams would look for in compensation for trading a sub-20 pick.

or Jeremy Lin

Are you going to deal Lin to just move up into the late teens though?

[deviljets7]

Not surprising to see the reports of the Spurs considering a move of Danny Green for cap space in order to make a run at a big FA (CP3?)

Considering this team is lacking in shooters and he's well-versed in the "Spurs way" I think he would be an excellent addition. Is the contract just high enough that he can be had without giving up an assets?

[MrDollarBills]

*sees Blake Griffin mentioned*

Be averse to getting a superstar caliber player?

No, im averse to the notion that he'd come here.

Net fans set themselves up for disappointment every summer by pining after huge names after bad seasons.

Blake Griffin is not signing to a 20 win team. Why do this to ourselves

[DarkXaero]

Be averse to getting a superstar caliber player?

This isn't 2013 bro.

They days of Blake Griffin being a Superstar are over.

Oh I'm sorry bro, I didn't realize that 22/8/5 were numbers of a washed up star.

[DarkXaero]

Be averse to getting a superstar caliber player?

No, im averse to the notion that he'd come here.

Net fans set themselves up for disappointment every summer by pining after huge names after bad seasons.

Blake Griffin is not signing to a 20 win team. Why do this to ourselves

Ok thats more fair lol. I just think there's a decent chance of the Clippers being dismantled this offseason, they could potentially lose 4 of their starters. In that case, there aren't many teams that can offer Blake Griffin a max in this FA. Same with Millsap, hence talk of S&T with Kings, Suns, and Nuggets. None of those teams are playoffs teams.

No one's pining after anyone here. I just mentioned that we should make an offer, I didn't say that he (or Millsap) would accept it.

[MrDollarBills]

Our lineup for next year should be

Russell
LeVert
Kilpatrick
RHJ
Mozgov

I don't care about Lin. He's better as a backup anyway.

I don't buy this whole "Russell is actually a SG" nonsense.

This is a Point Guard's league now. Russell needs to learn to play at that position and have the ball in his hands. Him and Lin are not going to work. And I'm totally opposed to moving LeVert to the 3 as well.

Kenny wants two ball handlers in the back court

LeVert played most of his mind last season at 3 if I'm not mistaken

Kilpatrick playing SF?

RHJ and Mozgov kills spacing.

[MrDollarBills]

Be averse to getting a superstar caliber player?

No, im averse to the notion that he'd come here.

Net fans set themselves up for disappointment every summer by pining after huge names after bad seasons.

Blake Griffin is not signing to a 20 win team. Why do this to ourselves

Ok thats more fair lol. I just think there's a decent chance of the Clippers being dismantled this offseason, they could potentially lose 4 of their starters. In that case, there aren't many teams that can offer Blake Griffin a max in this FA. Same with Millsap, hence talk of S&T with Kings, Suns, and Nuggets. None of those teams are playoffs teams.

Yes but those teams have assets to trade.

[DarkXaero]

No, im averse to the notion that he'd come here.

Net fans set themselves up for disappointment every summer by pining after huge names after bad seasons.

Blake Griffin is not signing to a 20 win team. Why do this to ourselves

Ok thats more fair lol. I just think there's a decent chance of the Clippers being dismantled this offseason, they could potentially lose 4 of their starters. In that case, there aren't many teams that can offer Blake Griffin a max in this FA. Same with Millsap, hence talk of S&T with Kings, Suns, and Nuggets. None of those teams are playoffs teams.

Yes but those teams have assets to trade.

It doesn't matter, point stands that there aren't many teams in position to offer those two players a max. And neither of them are joining a contender regardless.

[Karate Diop]

Not surprising to see the reports of the Spurs considering a move of Danny Green for cap space in order to make a run at a big FA (CP3?)

Considering this team is lacking in shooters and he's well-versed in the "Spurs way" I think he would be an excellent addition. Is the contract just high enough that he can be had without giving up an assets?

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/brooklyn-nets/cap/

It's a reasonable contract by today's standards ($10 million this year, $10 million player option for the year after), question is can he play SF...

[Keith Van Horn]

Ryan Anderson for Houston 1st, Nicholson, and Hamilton?

[kastuul]

Ryan Anderson for Houston 1st, Nicholson, and Hamilton?

It's too good to be true.
Daryl Morey is not that dumb.
Maybe Anderson for HOU 1st and Nicolson.

[NyCeEvO]

Not surprising to see the reports of the Spurs considering a move of Danny Green for cap space in order to make a run at a big FA (CP3?)

Considering this team is lacking in shooters and he's well-versed in the "Spurs way" I think he would be an excellent addition. Is the contract just high enough that he can be had without giving up an assets?

Danny Green is the type of 3&D player (and especially contract) I'd want on the Nets.

I loathe the idea of giving Otto Porter $20+mil/year. Before the addition of Bojan, I was already making the case before the Wizards acquired Bogs that (while Porter needs to be credited with improving his game), his production will go back down the moment he doesn't have Wall and Beal attracting defenses away from him. Once another competent marksman in Bogs showed up, Otto declined pretty hard.

Prior to March his FG% was well over .500; in March, he was .485 and in his four games in April, he shot 42.4% from the field.
His 3pt% took a nosedive as well...he was leading the league before March and then 35.9% from 3 in March and then 28.6% in 4 games in March.

Things are supposed to get easier for you when you add talent, not harder.

Giving Otto Porter a max deal is an easy and hard NO from me.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Be averse to getting a superstar caliber player?

This isn't 2013 bro.

They days of Blake Griffin being a Superstar are over.

Oh I'm sorry bro, I didn't realize that 22/8/5 were numbers of a washed up star.

Oh I'm sorry.

I forgot thats what qualifies a "Superstar."

I guess Brook Lopez is a Supserstar too. LMAO.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Our lineup for next year should be

Russell
LeVert
Kilpatrick
RHJ
Mozgov

I don't care about Lin. He's better as a backup anyway.

I don't buy this whole "Russell is actually a SG" nonsense.

This is a Point Guard's league now. Russell needs to learn to play at that position and have the ball in his hands. Him and Lin are not going to work. And I'm totally opposed to moving LeVert to the 3 as well.

Kenny wants two ball handlers in the back court

LeVert played most of his mind last season at 3 if I'm not mistaken

Kilpatrick playing SF?

RHJ and Mozgov kills spacing.

Yeah you're right.

Maybe put Levert at 3 and Kilpatrick at the 2.

Either way I want Russell playing Point Guard.

I don't see how RHJ and Mozgov kill spacing.