2017 Draft Discussion Part 4: 3 Day Countdown!

ImNotMcDiSwear · Post #641 » by **ImNotMcDiSwear** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:17 am

I'm confident we'll take whomever remains of Jackson and Tatum. I expect that player will be Jackson. We'll see.

jeff2020 · Post #642 » by **jeff2020** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:21 am

I like Jackson or fox here. Really don't want Tatum. Jackson and fox have the competitiveness and fire I like. With all the money being thrown around in the NBA to just role players I think being competitive and having the drive to win is a big thing. Without that it's very easy to just get comfortable and collect pay checks.

Mulhollanddrive · Post #643 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:22 am

Seems the most likely scenario.

I just worry how do we defend wings with Booker, Warren, Tatum.

GeraldsGreenery · Post #644 » by **GeraldsGreenery** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:26 am

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jredsaz · Post #645 » by **jredsaz** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:27 am

Villalobos wrote:I hate Phil Jackson so much.

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It's awful. Hopefully the injury reports scare Ainge off. But they have been rumored to have a hard on for KP. God. Idk what I want more. Jackson or KP and if the Celtics/Knicks ace us out of both I'll lose my mind.

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YouTube · Post #646 » by **Kerrsed** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:30 am

bwoolf2 wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:
Villalobos wrote:I hate Phil Jackson so much.

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Plz God go with Tatum Ainge.

#4 + Bledsoe and the miami pick next year for KP + 8 (take best available pg dsj or French Frank)

It would take more.

#4/Bledsoe/Warren/Bender/2 Miami 1sts for #8/KP/Melo

Phil finally finds a home for Melo and isnt forced to take on any bad players or bad contracts. We then look for Melo's more permanent home on a approved contender (Clippers for Blake????). Use the #8 on Issac (If he falls) or DSJ.

jeff2020 · Post #647 » by **jeff2020** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:30 am

jredsaz wrote:
Villalobos wrote:I hate Phil Jackson so much.

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It's awful. Hopefully the injury reports scare Ainge off. But they have been rumored to have a hard on for KP. God. Idk what I want more. Jackson or KP and if the Celtics/Knicks ace us out of both I'll lose my mind.

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Would love KP but man that injury history is scary and with his size it's a massive gamble.

DirtyDez · Post #648 » by **DirtyDez** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:31 am

GeraldsGreenery wrote:

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Jesus... Phil really gonna do this isn't he?

Imagine the Suns putting Booker on the block who has less value than Porzingis.

Post #649 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:32 am

Sunzgunz wrote:
Frank Lee wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Since when did Fox get in the conversation?

S***.... Ive been talking about him for weeks.

Music to my ears....anything outside of jackson or fox is meh! Their explosiveness and athleticism gives them potential star power.

He's name did seem resurface by most pundits...sneaky fox! ...pangram contest soon to follow!

It would just be very nice if those guys could shoot, since this game is all about shooting a basketball through a small hoop.

Christine-In-AZ · Post #650 » by **Christine-In-AZ** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:32 am

jcsunsfan wrote:I hope its not Fox. But Gambo is usually pretty good in this time frame...

Gambo also mentioned that he does not think the Suns will pick Dunn or Bender even if they are available and instead are focused on Jamal Murray, Hield, and Chriss

That's being dead wrong in my book.

YouTube · Post #651 » by **Kerrsed** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:37 am

jredsaz wrote: Idk what I want more. Jackson or KP and if the Celtics/Knicks ace us out of both I'll lose my mind.

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TeamTragic · Post #652 » by **TeamTragic** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:37 am

GeraldsGreenery wrote:Gambo just said "Spurs offered Aldridge and Green for #3"

Post #653 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:38 am

Kerrsed wrote:
bwoolf2 wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:
Plz God go with Tatum Ainge.

#4 + Bledsoe and the miami pick next year for KP + 8 (take best available pg dsj or French Frank)

It would take more.

#4/Bledsoe/Warren/Bender/2 Miami 1sts for #8/KP/Melo

Phil finally finds a home for Melo and isnt forced to take on any bad players or bad contracts. We then look for Melo's more permanent home on a approved contender (Clippers for Blake????). Use the #8 on Issac (If he falls) or DSJ.

I'm sure he'd do it (if he is serious about trading KP for a top 4 pick and I'm not so sure about that) if you added Melo to that. The only problem is, Melo would already be traded IF he would waive his no trade clause. But he hasn't. And if he does, it won't be for the Suns.

I wouldn't want Melo anyway.

I'm content to stay put. I like our young guys.

As much as I really like KP and think in a vacuum he has more value than Booker, and certainly Chriss, but I still personally wouldn't deal a bunch of stuff for him when I think if we make a good pick here and next year we will start to get pretty tough soon.

Isaac wouldn't be there at 8 I don't think...but he might since he shut his workouts down after working out with us for whatever reason.

But DS Jr would be nice there.

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Post #655 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:42 am

ChrisInAZ wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
ChrisInAZ wrote:
Strong suspicion: I don't think Ainge can make a deal with McDonough, because he already has the #3 going in a package to Chicago for Butler. Jackson didn't go to Boston because it's already known he's going to end up in a Bulls uni.

Suns are going to end up taking Tatum over Fox and I'm going blaaah about it.

Since when did Fox get in the conversation?

Not sure what you mean... I've always had Fox over Tatum

Oh, I just haven't seen anything, from anyone of any consequence mention that the Suns like Fox. They didn't even bring him in for our important workouts and all that. Or any PGs for that matter. You'd think if we were thinking PGs we would have brought some in, or something.

I mean we've brought two of the top guys in for two workouts, watched one in Sacramento and one in more of a public workout.

Saberestar · Post #656 » by **Saberestar** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:48 am

OMG, I can see it now.
Ainge is gonna get Porzingis IMO.
#3 and Avery Bradley can get it done. We will see.

bwoolf2 · Post #657 » by **bwoolf2** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:53 am

Kerrsed wrote:
bwoolf2 wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:
Plz God go with Tatum Ainge.

#4 + Bledsoe and the miami pick next year for KP + 8 (take best available pg dsj or French Frank)

It would take more.

#4/Bledsoe/Warren/Bender/2 Miami 1sts for #8/KP/Melo

Phil finally finds a home for Melo and isnt forced to take on any bad players or bad contracts. We then look for Melo's more permanent home on a approved contender (Clippers for Blake????). Use the #8 on Issac (If he falls) or DSJ.

I really like KP but he is too much of an injury risk for me to give up that much for, everything I have heard is thats why NY is making him available is because they arent sure the can keep him healthy.

YouTube · Post #658 » by **Kerrsed** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:55 am

bwoolf2 wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:
bwoolf2 wrote:
#4 + Bledsoe and the miami pick next year for KP + 8 (take best available pg dsj or French Frank)

It would take more.

#4/Bledsoe/Warren/Bender/2 Miami 1sts for #8/KP/Melo

Phil finally finds a home for Melo and isnt forced to take on any bad players or bad contracts. We then look for Melo's more permanent home on a approved contender (Clippers for Blake????). Use the #8 on Issac (If he falls) or DSJ.

I really like KP but he is too much of an injury risk for me to give up that much for, everything I have heard is thats why NY is making him available is because they arent sure the can keep him healthy.

Weird....everything i have been hearing is that he is in great shape and Phil is pissed that KP Didnt show up to the exit interviews and has been somewhat trashing the FO for their treatment of Melo.

Cutter · Post #659 » by **Cutter** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:56 am

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Please don't trade the #4 for KLove. :pray:

dremill24 · Post #660 » by **dremill24** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:58 am

Why is everyone trying to get greedy by working up scenarios where we get KP AND #8?

You're talking about someone pretty universally regarded as a star in the making while hes still on his rookie deal. You have to give in order to get, and we're tossing things like #8 and Melo into deals like they're value-less throw-ins.

Get KP, dont get greedy.

That said, im still very skeptical about him being moved at all.