Jackson vs Tatum - Who should the Celtics Draft?

[chrisab123]

To my knowledge, there are zero reports or accusations of him doing so.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18925546/josh-jackson-threatened-beat-women-player

Thank you for admitting your error!

Not really admitting an error. Him saying he's hit women before to a teammate isn't exactly a promising character. While no one has come out and accused him it's still damning stuff. It's just interesting that people can turn a blind eye to it.

The destruction of property stuff I can deal with. But even the hint of that stuff is not good.

[Taget]

Take whoever Phoenix wants. Get a Miami pick or two to deal later.

[Curmudgeon]

Trade down with the Knicks and take Frank Ntilikina with #8. Isn't it obvious?

[Andrew McCeltic]

Trade down with the Knicks and take Frank Ntilikina with #8. Isn't it obvious?

Nah, trade down with Charlotte and take John Collins. What sport are you watching?

[zronv7]

Tatum is a stud let's draft him, the depressing part of this draft is 5 years from now we'll look back at who the best ends up being and knowing we had the #1 pick to draft whomever it is sucks.

[shackles10]

If we pick Tatum, there's more of a chance we keep him. Picking Jackson could be for a later trade in July with Chicago or NY, who didn't want to pull the trigger pre-draft. Especially with Zarren's tweet today. I say we pick Jackson for that reason.

What was Zarren's tweet? I haven't checked the board in a couple hours and feel like I've missed months worth!

[Green89]

If we pick Tatum, there's more of a chance we keep him. Picking Jackson could be for a later trade in July with Chicago or NY, who didn't want to pull the trigger pre-draft. Especially with Zarren's tweet today. I say we pick Jackson for that reason.

What was Zarren's tweet? I haven't checked the board in a couple hours and feel like I've missed months worth!

It was about how free agency should start before draft night because teams are hesitant to make draft trades. They want to save cap space for free agents they may never get, and be hesitant to make a draft night deal.

[Kalela]

I like Isaac and Tatum more than Jackson but whoever Danny drafts I am okay with. I am also okay with trading the pick for an established player. All season I have been of the opinion that the Celtics are close to challenging for the title and I still maintain that. If the Celtics trade the pick or whatever it takes and get a good player in return I can honestly see them going to the finals.

[sam_I_am]

Trade down with the Knicks and take Frank Ntilikina with #8. Isn't it obvious?

It'll be DJS and I'll be unhappy at first too.

[Patsfan1081]

I just think Jackson fits Stevens the best and has the highest upside. He might be the best defender in the class, def off the ball. He will get a good amount of minutes right off the bat because of his defense. He has good court vision and isn't afraid of contact, he's a competitor. I also don't think Tatum will be the offensive player everyone believes. He's not fluid like Pierce was coming out and def can't draw a foul as well. Needs to put on about 20 lbs to get around the size of Butler/George but defense will still be a question even after because of his lateral movement.

[Patsfan1081]

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18925546/josh-jackson-threatened-beat-women-player

Thank you for admitting your error!

Not really admitting an error. Him saying he's hit women before to a teammate isn't exactly a promising character. While no one has come out and accused him it's still damning stuff. It's just interesting that people can turn a blind eye to it.

The destruction of property stuff I can deal with. But even the hint of that stuff is not good.

So exactly where did you read that he admitted to hitting women befor?

[chrisab123]

Thank you for admitting your error!

Not really admitting an error. Him saying he's hit women before to a teammate isn't exactly a promising character. While no one has come out and accused him it's still damning stuff. It's just interesting that people can turn a blind eye to it.

The destruction of property stuff I can deal with. But even the hint of that stuff is not good.

So exactly where did you read that he admitted to hitting women befor?

In an article linked on one of the old threads. He bragged to a teammate. I mean this guy is a **** why take him?

[celticfan42487]

I contend if draftexpress had Jackson at 3 and the expectation was we were picking Josh Jackson the results of this poll on the forum would be inverse.

There is a lot of this is the guy I've been told is the pick so I'm talking to myself into him over anyone else going on in this board right now.

[Red2]

I just saw Jackson's interview with Abby Chin; he came across as arrogant and insincere. his excuse for not working out with the celtics is bs. Not sure what he and his dope of an agent bj armstrong are thinking; isn't his job to get the best draft spot for his client? Funny thing is I saw Jackson's interview after working out with the lakers and he was totally engaged and different. so I don't get it. As for tatum he looks like a good but maybe not great player. I think danny really F'd this up. Fultz looks like the real deal . Between tatum and jackson I think Jckson has more upside

[sully00]

If Ball is there, you take Ball.

If Ball isn't there, you take Isaac.

Don;t know which thread to put this in so here:

Either he can't pass or he won't pass..

Aren't Isaac's numbers on this topic worse than tatums when it comes to this?


Also, my only issue is Isaac's comp. He's an ultimate 6'11 3 and D guy. I don't think he has the shake a Rashard Lewis had. I also am a little wary of a 3 and D guy at #3 in this draft.

Jackson's size/wingspan does worry me a little bit. I wish he was bigger so I could confidently put him at a 4 position.

I think I have Tatum/Isaac/Jackson in that order but it's close.

Isaac is a legit PF though, he actually rebounds and blocks shots his SF game is a bonus not essential. What he can do that is essential is defend small ball PFs. I feel like Tatum has the most upside as a scorer but may have the least potential as a defender and rebounder.

The problem I have is Jackson has the chance to be royalty. All NBA two way super star. I think concerns about his limitations are way over blown compared to where he is at athletically, and his skill set as a defender. He is a little bit older for a prospect but folks this is the guy every team in the NBA is looking to get not Fultz.

[cereal3]

Neither.

I think the pick gets dealt before the draft. Too many big names available this offseason. Kind of trumps anything they could get from the draft.

[return2glory]

I keep on going back and forth between the two.

A lot of people wanted Fultz for the scoring. Tatum is a taller version of that scorer. IMO, Tatum would have put up 23 or more points per game if he and Fultz traded teams in college.

Tatum is a natural scorer. If we keep the pick I would go with Jackson still but it's close for me.

[sully00]

I just saw Jackson's interview with Abby Chin; he came across as arrogant and insincere. his excuse for not working out with the celtics is bs. Not sure what he and his dope of an agent bj armstrong are thinking; isn't his job to get the best draft spot for his client? Funny thing is I saw Jackson's interview after working out with the lakers and he was totally engaged and different. so I don't get it. As for tatum he looks like a good but maybe not great player. I think danny really F'd this up. Fultz looks like the real deal . Between tatum and jackson I think Jckson has more upside

Jackson know's that he isn't going past 4 and no matter who drafts he is probably getting traded so why should he give a rats ass who thinks what at the moment. Danny had the #1 pick and could have given him all the love then and didn't, he made it seem like Futlz was the guy no matter what until he traded the pick. Why is Jackson supposed to go racing over to Boston know to move up one spot in the draft?

To each his own on this one I think Fultz is destined to be one of the worst #1 picks ever not becuase he won't be a decent player but he will be okay in a draft with All Stars and maybe a Super Star or two and Fultz will be a Monte Ellis type player and everyone will be like what happened there?

[soxfan2003]

I really don't blame JJ for not working out for the C's since I feel it really was a combination of reasons.

Look at it from his perspective. No one expected Boston to take him with the number 1 pick. He and his agent look at the Celtics roster and see Crowder/J Brown and the C's possible adding Hayward/George/Butler. Now I think Celtics fans realize Ainge wouldn't hesitate to deal Crowder to make room or J Brown in some other type of deal but Josh Jackson in his agent don't really know that for sure.

[JMac1]

Take whoever Phoenix wants. Get a Miami pick or two to deal later.

We don't care either. Tatum or Jackson, choice is yours.