2017 Trade & Free Agency Ideas & Discussion

[bwoolf2]

I don't get this. Warren, for one, is a better fit/bigger need than Chriss if we do get Porzingis. We'd be trading 4 (Jackson/Tatum) and thus if we move Warren we have no small forward, and Warren showed he can be damn good prior to injury and the last month after injury. He was our best player over large portions of the season. Chriss is no sure thing. He's athletic with a great attitude and definitely has upside, but he's averaging 9 and 4 or something like that and this trade involves moving him for a dude only 2 years older who is averaging 18 and 7 and is 7'2" with 3 point range and insane length, who can handle the ball on the break. His upside is every bit as high as Chriss's, if not higher, and he is much closer to reaching it. Dirk with better handles and rim protection ability. I mean, if we trade for him and Booker is not involved and you are anything but thrilled I don't know what to say.

A. not asking you to get it,

B. he is my favorite player on the Suns so ya I will be disappointed.

C. I think KP is a huge injury risk, name me players over 7'0 tall that have had long healthy star careers, I cant think of any.

Durant, dirk, shaq, Hakeem, Tim Duncan, Aldridge, Jabar, wilt chamberlain, Giannis + 1" (so far), david Robinson, Kevin Garnett...name me this many who's careers dwindled due to injury? I'll give you 6'11" dudes

You gave me a bunch of 7'0 not a single player 7'3 or taller try again.

[AtheJ415]

I really like KP but if they trade Chriss im going to be pissed. They can get this done without giving him up. The knicks will not get any better offer no reason to include him. Part of me just wants to draft Jackson and call it a day. Let this team grow and stop messing with them for a couple of years. However if they can trade Warren Bledsoe, 4, both Miami picks and even another future 1st and take back some crap contracts from NY im in. That should be well more than anyone else offers NY outside of Boston and do they really want to trade them in division and will Boston be willing to match that package, I personally dont think they would.

I don't get this. Warren, for one, is a better fit/bigger need than Chriss if we do get Porzingis. We'd be trading 4 (Jackson/Tatum) and thus if we move Warren we have no small forward, and Warren showed he can be damn good prior to injury and the last month after injury. He was our best player over large portions of the season. Chriss is no sure thing. He's athletic with a great attitude and definitely has upside, but he's averaging 9 and 4 or something like that and this trade involves moving him for a dude only 2 years older who is averaging 18 and 7 and is 7'2" with 3 point range and insane length, who can handle the ball on the break. His upside is every bit as high as Chriss's, if not higher, and he is much closer to reaching it. Dirk with better handles and rim protection ability. I mean, if we trade for him and Booker is not involved and you are anything but thrilled I don't know what to say.

A. not asking you to get it,

B. he is my favorite player on the Suns so ya I will be disappointed.

C. I think KP is a huge injury risk, name me players over 7'0 tall that have had long healthy star careers, I cant think of any.

1. You're entitled to be wrong.

2. He may be your favorite, but I will never understand a fan being pissed about getting a clearly superior player.

3. There are tons, and we have maybe the best medical staff in basketball. Obviously they would have to sign off on any trade.

[AtheJ415]

A. not asking you to get it,

B. he is my favorite player on the Suns so ya I will be disappointed.

C. I think KP is a huge injury risk, name me players over 7'0 tall that have had long healthy star careers, I cant think of any.

Durant, dirk, shaq, Hakeem, Tim Duncan, Aldridge, Jabar, wilt chamberlain, Giannis + 1" (so far), david Robinson, Kevin Garnett...name me this many who's careers dwindled due to injury? I'll give you 6'11" dudes

You gave me a bunch of 7'0 not a single player 7'3 or taller try again.

You asked for 7'0, not 7'3". And your question is preposterous because there simply aren't that many 7'3" players who are athletic enough to play in the NBA.

[JJ13]

A. not asking you to get it,

B. he is my favorite player on the Suns so ya I will be disappointed.

C. I think KP is a huge injury risk, name me players over 7'0 tall that have had long healthy star careers, I cant think of any.

Durant, dirk, shaq, Hakeem, Tim Duncan, Aldridge, Jabar, wilt chamberlain, Giannis + 1" (so far), david Robinson, Kevin Garnett...name me this many who's careers dwindled due to injury? I'll give you 6'11" dudes

You gave me a bunch of 7'0 not a single player 7'3 or taller try again.

You said 7'0" bro...literally took the time to do the ' and the 0"...your question not mine

[bwoolf2]

I don't get this. Warren, for one, is a better fit/bigger need than Chriss if we do get Porzingis. We'd be trading 4 (Jackson/Tatum) and thus if we move Warren we have no small forward, and Warren showed he can be damn good prior to injury and the last month after injury. He was our best player over large portions of the season. Chriss is no sure thing. He's athletic with a great attitude and definitely has upside, but he's averaging 9 and 4 or something like that and this trade involves moving him for a dude only 2 years older who is averaging 18 and 7 and is 7'2" with 3 point range and insane length, who can handle the ball on the break. His upside is every bit as high as Chriss's, if not higher, and he is much closer to reaching it. Dirk with better handles and rim protection ability. I mean, if we trade for him and Booker is not involved and you are anything but thrilled I don't know what to say.

A. not asking you to get it,

B. he is my favorite player on the Suns so ya I will be disappointed.

C. I think KP is a huge injury risk, name me players over 7'0 tall that have had long healthy star careers, I cant think of any.

1. You're entitled to be wrong.

2. He may be your favorite, but I will never understand a fan being pissed about getting a clearly superior player.

3. There are tons, and we have maybe the best medical staff in basketball. Obviously they would have to sign off on any trade.

#3 Ill wait for you to provide me a list of any star player in NBA history 7'3 or taller that had a long healthy star career go...

[matt131]

I like Bender better than Chriss but would rather the Suns trade Bender in a trade for Porzingis. I like the attitude Chriss has, doesn't back down from anyone, tough as nails, would be a nice contrast with Porzingis who seems like a more laid back kind of dude.

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[bwoolf2]

Durant, dirk, shaq, Hakeem, Tim Duncan, Aldridge, Jabar, wilt chamberlain, Giannis + 1" (so far), david Robinson, Kevin Garnett...name me this many who's careers dwindled due to injury? I'll give you 6'11" dudes

You gave me a bunch of 7'0 not a single player 7'3 or taller try again.

You said 7'0" bro...literally took the time to do the ' and the 0"...your question not mine

you got to read the text bro "name me players over 7'0 tall that have had long healthy star careers, I cant think of any."

That extra three inches in terms of history makes all the difference in the world...

[bwgood77]

I would trade the following for Porzingis.


Option 1:
Bledsoe and one of Chriss, Bender

Option 2:
One of Chriss or Bender and Pick 4 (Then trsde Bledsoe for a top 10 pick)

Option 3:
Both Chriss and Bender

Option 4:
One of Chriss or Bender, Warren, future pick




And if Knicks want Noah off their payroll then Suns remove any picks what so ever.

I would actually do more if needed. Obviously you trade the minimum you can to get him, but I would eat Noah's deal, include Bledsoe, Warren, and both Chriss and Bender and pick 4 if needed. I would. Our team will suck next year anyways due to youth and in that scenario we still have our own pick, which we could use to add a big next to Kristaps. We'd have a 2nd season of being awful, with another high pick to get a SF or PG, and from there, that offseason when Chandler, Dudley, and others come off the books you can max out 2 guys. Become a legit contender right then and there when GS is older and more broken up, and then go over the cap to mini-max (b/c they are on rookie deals) Booker and Zingis.

This game is about superstars. With Zingis and Booker you have 2 near certain future ones. All you need at that point is to sign one in FA and the rest of the ring-chasing veterans will provide depth.

Yeah, those options above wouldn't do it, but if they want Bledsoe, he has to be involved, the 4 obviously, and I think if they have that they go SF anyway, so I'd keep Warren....and then I would give them the Miami pick next year and our own the following year protected over one of our young guys. We would still have our own next year and and a ton of young players so not having one the following year wouldn't hurt if it is protected.

If they want Chriss, you have to pull the trigger if he passes medical tests..even if it is Chriss, Bledsoe and the 4, and one or both of the picks I mentioned...but any more than that is too much.

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[TeamTragic]

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Remove Bender. Add Chriss. Deal.

[matt131]

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YES!!!!!!!!!!!

[Moochthemonkey]

You gave me a bunch of 7'0 not a single player 7'3 or taller try again.

You said 7'0" bro...literally took the time to do the ' and the 0"...your question not mine

you got to read the text bro "name me players over 7'0 tall that have had long healthy star careers, I cant think of any."

That extra three inches in terms of history makes all the difference in the world...

yeah, small sample size, but you're not wrong: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_players_in_National_Basketball_Association_history

also, that's what she said.

[blee732]

Anybody remember that game where Chriss threw down KP and almost started a fight? If we pull off a trade without giving up Chriss, would love to see that first meeting...

[AtheJ415]

A. not asking you to get it,

B. he is my favorite player on the Suns so ya I will be disappointed.

C. I think KP is a huge injury risk, name me players over 7'0 tall that have had long healthy star careers, I cant think of any.

1. You're entitled to be wrong.

2. He may be your favorite, but I will never understand a fan being pissed about getting a clearly superior player.

3. There are tons, and we have maybe the best medical staff in basketball. Obviously they would have to sign off on any trade.

#3 Ill wait for you to provide me a list of any star player in NBA history 7'3 or taller that had a long healthy star career go...

There haven't been any 7'3" stars. There simply aren't that many people that tall on this planet, even in the NBA. In the history of the league, there have been like 5 guys that tall period. That's like me saying you shouldn't trade for IT because there aren't any star players under 5'10" in NBA history.

Right back at you, name me the 7'3" stars whose injuries cut short their careers. I'll wait.

[starbosa10]

think there should be a poll....wonder who people would prefer to keep between Chriss and bender

[Villalobos]

There haven't been any 7'3" stars. There simply aren't that many people that tall on this planet, even in the NBA. In the history of the league, there have been like 5 guys that tall period. That's like me saying you shouldn't trade for IT because there aren't any star players under 5'10" in NBA history.

Right back at you, name me the 7'3" stars whose injuries cut short their careers. I'll wait.

Yao Ming, breh

star whose career cut short cause 7'6" is way too big for a human to play basketball on non-bionic feet

[JJ13]

You gave me a bunch of 7'0 not a single player 7'3 or taller try again.

You said 7'0" bro...literally took the time to do the ' and the 0"...your question not mine

you got to read the text bro "name me players over 7'0 tall that have had long healthy star careers, I cant think of any."

That extra three inches in terms of history makes all the difference in the world...

You keep saying 7'0 tall...here's a bunch http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1056834-nba-rankings-the-best-7-footers-of-all-time - and that doesn't include Durant or dirk...this is not a good argument you're pushing

[JMac1]

Bender
Bledsoe
Jackson/Tatum

Done.... good deal for big teams...

Can we close this deal within the hour?

[Sunzgunz]

What you guys think about the Suns attempting to trade Bledsoe?

If it means we are taking fox provided JJ is gone, I'm in! Like most here, I like Bledsoe, he just doesn't fit our timeline.

In all honesty, I thought we'd trade him for essentially DSJ, and I like that option better. it means we got JJ or Isaac with our 1st pick and snuck back in towards the end of the lottery to grab DSJ. DSJ (Ullis as a great young backup), Booker, Warren, Chriss, Bender and JJ or Isaac; with 6 1st round draft picks over the next 4 years (at least 3 of them lottery),....from an asset standpoint, we have arrived and have tons of flexibility and potential in trades and free agent acquisitions.

However, with fox resurfacing as an option almost simultaneous with bledsoe trade rumors (Bledsoe trade rumors were expected, the timing is just funny) we may be entering the idea that JJ may be gone and we are opting to go with bpa (best potential available). If JJ is gone, i do prefer Fox to Tatum, but i dont think bledsoe has enough weight to get isaac. Unless we are grabbing isaac witj the 4 and trading bledsoe for DSJ.

Ranking my best scenarios with the #4 Pick and a Bledsoe Trade Assumption:

1) JJ/Fox - #4 May grab JJ, but Bledsoe is NOT enough to grab Fox...Chances: slim to none and that's being optimistic.

2) JJ/DSJ - If JJ is available at #4 and DSJ goes as projected (8-10) or falls, I think we have a slim chance provided JJ is there at #4 and DSJ is available past 8. Our/my best option JJ at #4 is a big if.

3) Fox/Isaac - #4 almost certainly nabs Fox, but Bledsoe doesn't grab Isaac. Isaac will probably go #6. Unless Isaac falls to 8 or beyond....slim chance this option happens.

4) Isaac/DSJ - better chance than our 2nd option because Isaac should definitely be there at the #4 spot where JJ may not be. Again, will DSJ fall past 8, if so there's a better than slim chance.

5) Fox over Tatum, Bledsoe is relatively redundant, hes on the block....perhaps we trade, perhaps we dont.

6) Isaac - I will go bananas if JJ or Fox is on the board....but it will come to pass and a Bledsoe Trade is not necessary.

7) Tatum - I'll go bananas because someone I preferred was there...but it will come to pass.

YES; let's trade Bledsoe if it's one of the 1st 5 options

[bwoolf2]

You said 7'0" bro...literally took the time to do the ' and the 0"...your question not mine

you got to read the text bro "name me players over 7'0 tall that have had long healthy star careers, I cant think of any."

That extra three inches in terms of history makes all the difference in the world...

You keep saying 7'0 tall...here's a bunch http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1056834-nba-rankings-the-best-7-footers-of-all-time - and that doesn't include Durant or dirk...this is not a good argument you're pushing

"name me players over 7'0 tall that have had long healthy star careers, I cant think of any."

I bolded the word for you so you could read it better