2017 Draft Discussion Part 4: 3 Day Countdown!

Mulhollanddrive · Post #701 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:45 am

RealGM story above says Bledsoe is being shopped in any package being discussed.

On draft eve that screams DeAaron Fox (if pick is kept).

SkinnyOMiller · Post #702 » by **SkinnyOMiller** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:52 am

Skin wrote:Isaac draft talk has died down in here.... what happened?

I know Gambo poured a bucket full of cold water on the Isaac possibility reporting that the Suns were firmly deciding between Jackson, Tatum and Fox.

RaisingArizona · Post #703 » by **RaisingArizona** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:58 am

Skin wrote:Isaac draft talk has died down in here.... what happened?

Smokescreens everywhere saying we aren't considering him anymore. Idk, though. If we keep the pick, wouldn't surprise me if we took him.

Zelaznyrules · Post #704 » by **Zelaznyrules** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:00 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:RealGM story above says Bledsoe is being shopped in any package being discussed.

On draft eve that screams DeAaron Fox (if pick is kept).

Not to me. To me, it explains why we might be looking at backup point guards with our second pick. Ryan sounds like he's comfortable with Ulis as the starter and has even stated he didn't think "backup" was all Tyler was suited for.

SlovenianDragon · Post #705 » by **SlovenianDragon** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:44 am

Zelaznyrules wrote:
Mulhollanddrive wrote:RealGM story above says Bledsoe is being shopped in any package being discussed.

On draft eve that screams DeAaron Fox (if pick is kept).

Not to me. To me, it explains why we might be looking at backup point guards with our second pick. Ryan sounds like he's comfortable with Ulis as the starter and has even stated he didn't think "backup" was all Tyler was suited for.

I do love me some Ulis.

I would love to see him start this season. So I would love to trade Bledsoe.

I think Ulis/booker is a way better match than Bledsoe/Booker

Especially when you think of what we could get for Bledsoe.

If we could have a Ulis/Booker/KP combo....

OooOoOoOoOOOoo

RunSunRun · Post #706 » by **RunSunRun** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:48 am

Just thinking of years of Booker and The Unicorn as the franchise blocks of the Suns...man, that would be incredible.

I get people are scared of KP's potential future injuries and what not, but its not like Bledsoe is any better off.

If we could keep Chriss too somehow, I don't see how we don't pull the trigger on the trade.

I know all too well as a Suns fan the cruel reality of bitter crushing disappointment, so I'm not expecting much to happen.

But tonight, I dream of Unicorns.

SlovenianDragon · Post #707 » by **SlovenianDragon** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:06 am

I think the reason I would love to have Ulis/Booker and Kp so much is because I think every team needs two threats at the least.

They cant double both booker and KP. And with Ulis who is a great distributer we will have a great offensive game. Also offensively Ulis isn't bad himself.

Also all three guys are pretty good on defense.

I don't think it will happen....But we can dream.

I'm just trying to keep calm.

The possibilities I like are:

We keep our 4 and get Tatum or Jackson.

We make a trade that gets KP but doesn't give up to much.

Possibilities I don't like are:

We go off the grid for Isaac or Fox.

Or we do something that is **** crazy...

As of now I'm pretty optimistic.

We are so close to the draft! I cant contain myself....

Watch on YouTube

Zelaznyrules · Post #708 » by **Zelaznyrules** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:09 am

I'd still like to pursue a KP deal but the more I read about his nagging injuries (28 games missed in 2 seasons) and the fact he looks like he MIGHT be a diva in the making, I'd be a little more reluctant to go wild with my offer. I'd make one but I'd probably limit it to Bledsoe and 2 picks or Bledsoe a pick and the choice between Warren or Bender. If we take back Noah, I'd take away one of the assets too.

And, it's a small thing, but I always worry about any athlete whose brother is his de facto manager.

I don't like that KP skipped his team meeting but I can sort of understand it. I do not, however, understand his continuted unwillingness to communicate with his employer. Also, apparently he's playing for his national team this summer and I don't know if that was discussed with his team first but if it's a unilateral decision on his part that would be a big deal for me too.

Zelaznyrules · Post #709 » by **Zelaznyrules** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:11 am

SlovenianDragon wrote:I think the reason I would love to have Ulis/Booker and Kp so much is because I think every team needs two threats at the least.

They cant double both booker and KP. And with Ulis who is a great distributer we will have a great offensive game. Also offensively Ulis isn't bad himself.

Also all three guys are pretty good on defense.

I don't think it will happen....But we can dream.

I'm just trying to keep calm.

The possibilities I like are:

We keep our 4 and get Tatum or Jackson.

We make a trade that gets KP but doesn't give up to much.

Possibilities I don't like are:

We go off the grid for Isaac or Fox.

Or we do something that is **** crazy...

As of now I'm pretty optimistic.

We are so close to the draft! I cant contain myself....

Watch on YouTube

I agree with this but I'm less concerned about Isaac than I am about Fox. I've said this several times but I really haven't followed Isaac that closely, I'd dismissed him until I heard the comments from his college coach. His description of Isaac's abilities intrigued me and I didn't get the idea he was just blowing smoke about the kid.

SlovenianDragon · Post #710 » by **SlovenianDragon** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:32 am

ginobiliflops wrote:
Skin wrote:Isaac draft talk has died down in here.... what happened?

Smokescreens everywhere saying we aren't considering him anymore. Idk, though. If we keep the pick, wouldn't surprise me if we took him.

I know your super pro Isaac...

So coming into draft day who is your 2nd target? Just out of curiosity...

Mulhollanddrive · Post #711 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:55 am

Ramona Shelborne twitter suggests Porzingis deal is dead.

In 15 hours it looks like Tatum, Jackson or Fox.

RaisingArizona · Post #712 » by **RaisingArizona** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:56 am

SlovenianDragon wrote:
ginobiliflops wrote:
Skin wrote:Isaac draft talk has died down in here.... what happened?

Smokescreens everywhere saying we aren't considering him anymore. Idk, though. If we keep the pick, wouldn't surprise me if we took him.

I know your super pro Isaac...

So coming into draft day who is your 2nd target? Just out of curiosity...

Assuming we are going to trade Bled, I'd put Fox next on my board then Jackson.

Saberestar · Post #713 » by **Saberestar** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:00 am

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Saberestar · Post #714 » by **Saberestar** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:03 am

There is always a possible better trade offer in the draft, a few minutes before we pick.

I would offer Bledsoe, #4 and both Miami's picks.

JoRain · Post #715 » by **JoRain** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:13 am

Saberestar wrote:There is always a possible better trade offer in the draft, a few minutes before we pick.

I would offer Bledsoe, #4 and both Miami's picks.

for KP I would offer one of Bender, Chriss as well. Also could be good idea to offer take bad contract from them (Noah) and try to send them Knight :wink:

sell his triangle abilities

Zelaznyrules · Post #716 » by **Zelaznyrules** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:30 am

ginobiliflops wrote:
SlovenianDragon wrote:
ginobiliflops wrote:Smokescreens everywhere saying we aren't considering him anymore. Idk, though. If we keep the pick, wouldn't surprise me if we took him.

I know your super pro Isaac...

So coming into draft day who is your 2nd target? Just out of curiosity...

Assuming we are going to trade Bled, I'd put Fox next on my board then Jackson.

I don't think there's any truth to the current Bledsoe rumor (that we are trying to dump his contract) and I hope there's no truth to the rumor we like Fox. He's not a bad pick but I don't think he's a clear upgrade over Ulis and if he isn't, he's the wrong player to bring into that locker room IMO. Flip a 3 sided coin on Jackson, Tatum and Isaac and let's speed this offseason along. Is it summer league yet? How about now?

MrMiyagi · Post #717 » by **MrMiyagi** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:36 am

RunSunRun wrote:Just thinking of years of Booker and The Unicorn as the franchise blocks of the Suns...man, that would be incredible.

I get people are scared of KP's potential future injuries and what not, but its not like Bledsoe is any better off.

If we could keep Chriss too somehow, I don't see how we don't pull the trigger on the trade.

I know all too well as a Suns fan the cruel reality of bitter crushing disappointment, so I'm not expecting much to happen.

But tonight, I dream of Unicorns.

We've got a unicorn, his name is Dragan Bender. He's gonna be great.

m1chal · Post #718 » by **m1chal** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:08 am

MrMiyagi wrote: We've got a unicorn, his name is Dragan Bender. He's gonna be great.

Yeah, I'd rather keep Bender, there's so much potential. If I were to make an offer it would be #4, Bled, Chriss, MIA'19 pick. Taking on Noah might be possible if we got #8. Not enough? No problem, Butler can be had for less even though I agree KP might be a better player at some point.

blacksun · Post #719 » by **blacksun** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:25 am

Man I love this time of year. Im feeling good about this draft.

Waylay13 · Post #720 » by **Waylay13** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:08 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:RealGM story above says Bledsoe is being shopped in any package being discussed.

On draft eve that screams DeAaron Fox (if pick is kept).

It could also be part of the disinformation campaign.