Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II

IllmaticHandler · Post #221 » by **IllmaticHandler** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:57 pm

NoLayupRule wrote:Ok
New theoreticial

Do you accept

Melo to clev
Kp to sac
Bledsoe to ny
Love to phx
Maclamore, #4, #5,#10 to ny

Riot Randolph · Post #222 » by **Riot Randolph** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:58 pm

we will be blindsided and the one to be traded will be WHG

Post #223 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:58 pm

Most of these KP trade ideas make me feel sick

They can all burn in hell and take Phil with them

BLACKFEET 2010 · Post #224 » by **BLACKFEET 2010** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:58 pm

NoLayupRule wrote:
BLACKFEET 2010 wrote:The two Phil threads tho....
Umm, mods?

Oh sorry, are we not performing up to task?

We have to do what's best for the team.
:lol:

Post #225 » by **NoLayupRule** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:59 pm

rajajackal wrote:jackson, fox, anunoby to group with willy?

yeah, i mean **** that's a package. that trade looks clumsy though, very unlikely

Well sure it's clumsy it was hastily put together

But the rumor of love for number for made me think of it
And there's no way Sacramento doesn't trade five and 10 for KP
The big question would be mello for love swap

Dubious Handles · Post #226 » by **Dubious Handles** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:59 pm

I knew Knicks fans have a long history of overrating their rookies and young prospects but holy hell :lol:

Some of the proposals I read today were just cringe worthy. Kp is highly overrated and if Phil can land a top 3 pick for him its a no brainer. Kp has shown some health, conditioning and respect issues and that doesnt bode well for his future here.
If Phil doesn't trade him this summer though this could turn real ugly real fast

Post #227 » by **mpharris36** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:59 pm

IllmaticHandler wrote:
NoLayupRule wrote:Ok
New theoreticial

Do you accept

Melo to clev
Kp to sac
Bledsoe to ny
Love to phx
Maclamore, #4, #5,#10 to ny

nope just cut sacremento out of it. Do #4 for Melo

KP is worth a lot more than #5 and #10.

KP has more value than Fultz

Jstock12 · Post #228 » by **Jstock12** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:00 pm

The Boshstrich wrote:I knew Knicks fans have a long history of overrating their rookies and young prospects but holy hell

Some of the proposals I read today were just cringe worthy. Kp is highly overrated and if Phil can land a top 3 pick for him its a no brainer. Kp has shown some health, conditioning and respect issues and that doesnt bode well for his future here.
If Phil doesn't trade him this summer though this could turn real ugly real fast

You're being silly. KP would be a consensus number 1 pick in this draft.

Dubious Handles · Post #229 » by **Dubious Handles** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:00 pm

Jstock12 wrote:
The Boshstrich wrote:I knew Knicks fans have a long history of overrating their rookies and young prospects but holy hell

Some of the proposals I read today were just cringe worthy. Kp is highly overrated and if Phil can land a top 3 pick for him its a no brainer. Kp has shown some health, conditioning and respect issues and that doesnt bode well for his future here.
If Phil doesn't trade him this summer though this could turn real ugly real fast

You're being silly. KP would be a consensus number 1 pick in this draft.

no he would not.. agree to disagree

Jstock12 · Post #230 » by **Jstock12** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:01 pm

The Boshstrich wrote:
Jstock12 wrote:
The Boshstrich wrote:I knew Knicks fans have a long history of overrating their rookies and young prospects but holy hell

Some of the proposals I read today were just cringe worthy. Kp is highly overrated and if Phil can land a top 3 pick for him its a no brainer. Kp has shown some health, conditioning and respect issues and that doesnt bode well for his future here.
If Phil doesn't trade him this summer though this could turn real ugly real fast

You're being silly. KP would be a consensus number 1 pick in this draft.

no he would not.. agree to disagree

NOOB77 · Post #231 » by **NOOB77** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:02 pm

If the Celtics dont unload the assets I dont really know what they are waiting for to be honest. And if you trade KP might as well move KOQ and Lee and get what you can. Take back bad contract and picks from Blazers just get as many picks as possible next 3 drafts

Post #232 » by **NoLayupRule** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:03 pm

knicks85 wrote:
NoLayupRule wrote:
knicks85 wrote:in a heart beat
ahh the allure of the theoretical versus the actual

part of it is just to purge the cancer Melo off this team...

Which is classic Knicks fan base
Just to remove our best player, who's never been considered a cancer by anyone, you would move our other best player

I understand
I'm just saying it's exactly what's made this team bad all these years
Turn over, undervaluing current players, and overvaluing potential players elsewhere

3toheadmelo · Post #233 » by **3toheadmelo** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:03 pm

dakomish23 wrote:
BeagleBoss wrote:Not impressed at all with Criss or Bender.

They are not good. Not even close.

dragan wants to be like KP
chriss was lucky KP didn't knock his bitch ass out...

Riot Randolph · Post #234 » by **Riot Randolph** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:05 pm

NoLayupRule wrote:
knicks85 wrote:
NoLayupRule wrote:ahh the allure of the theoretical versus the actual

part of it is just to purge the cancer Melo off this team...

Which is classic Knicks fan base
Just to remove our best player, who's never been considered a cancer by anyone, you would move our other best player

I understand
I'm just saying it's exactly what's made this team bad all these years
Turn over, undervaluing current players, and overvaluing potential players elsewhere

we have seen the opposite scenario jsut as much... think how highly the fan base thought of Landry Fields , Iman Shumpert etc....we had trade proposals instead we held on believing they were significantly better than they actually were...

Jstock12 · Post #235 » by **Jstock12** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:05 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:
BeagleBoss wrote:Not impressed at all with Criss or Bender.

They are not good. Not even close.

dragan wants to be like KP
chriss was lucky KP didn't knock his bitch ass out...

The jury is still out on Dragan, kid is still only 19. Very intriguing skillset.

Post #236 » by **dakomish23** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:07 pm

NYKnicksTAPE wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:
Tron Carter wrote:
that 70 point game got folks so gassed. he's not on the same level as kp as a prospect.

And his surprising play on a terrible PHX team his rookie year.

That dude has a lot of flaws & is nonexistent defensively

I like that deal if we still keep our 8th because u get Booker, Josh Jackson, whoever u draft at 8, Willy, and all your picks moving forward

that would be an accelerated rebuild

people want Monk and he looks like another Booker type

I think if you want a successful rebuild, you better have the centerpiece. I don't see any of those guys as centerpiece.

Give me Monk KP and WHG over that. We can fill in around KP.

Post #237 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:07 pm

Even if we trade KP and Melo, will the next young guys be happier? I mean, KP isn't even that bad..he's just young, frustrated and wants to win. This franchise brings out the worst in people.

Wolfgang630 · Post #238 » by **Wolfgang630** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:08 pm

Boston has the best offer. Let's be serious. Boston can offer the most. Yeah, it sucks KP will be in the same division, but if I'm Danny Ainge I pull the trigger. You've seen KP play. You don't know what these other guys will do.

Riot Randolph · Post #239 » by **Riot Randolph** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:09 pm

Wolfgang630 wrote:Boston has the best offer. Let's be serious. Boston can offer the most. Yeah, it sucks KP will be in the same division, but if I'm Danny Ainge I pull the trigger. You've seen KP play. You don't know what these other guys will do.

yes but Ainge doesnt do a trade unless he obliterates the other team...

rajajackal · Post #240 » by **rajajackal** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:09 pm

NoLayupRule wrote:
rajajackal wrote:jackson, fox, anunoby to group with willy?

yeah, i mean **** that's a package. that trade looks clumsy though, very unlikely

Well sure it's clumsy it was hastily put together

But the rumor of love for number for made me think of it
And there's no way Sacramento doesn't trade five and 10 for KP
The big question would be mello for love swap

sorry i didn't mean to knock it, i liked where your head was at. taking home 1/3 of the top 10 players in this draft is extremely enticing, and is the first thing that has made me personally entertain the idea of trading KP so far