This offseason

[Roy Tarpley]

Few points:

Blake is not signing with the Nets. You guys are masochists. Every damn summer expectations in free agency spiral out of control.

Danny Green would be an excellent piece to trade for. Fits right into our system.

Mozgov and RHJ aren't shooters. We need at least 4 players that can knock down the open 3 (last year it was Lin, LeVert, Lopez, and foye). One of those two will have to come off of then bench. I wouldn't pencil in mozgov as the starting 5 just yet. Let's see what moves Marks makes in the draft and free agency.

Only thing I can say with certainty is that Lin, Russell, and LeVert are the perimeter trio. And that's a damn good start.

I agree with all this and I'm excited to see what moves Marks makes, whether it's a stretch 4/5 with the #22 pick or a trade to move up in the draft. But I could also see Mozgov and Booker in the starting 5 too, at least temporarily.

[Packers+NetsWIN]

Yeah you're right.

Maybe put Levert at 3 and Kilpatrick at the 2.

Either way I want Russell playing Point Guard.

I don't see how RHJ and Mozgov kill spacing.

I think the best move would be to develop Russell as a point guard also. I think him and levert would make a great backcourt duo as they are both long, each can play of the ball as the other one has his respective turn running the offense, and are similar in age so can mature together.

However, I think it would be prudent to let him be the super six man for the team this year. The nets are not winning a championship this year so I think it would be smart for the Nets not to put too much pressure on him too fast. Let him adjust to new teammates and a new city, learn the system from Lin and Atkinson, and learn how to be a great professional from Lin this year without the pressure of being a full-time starter and go to scorer. He can also get some minutes with Lin obviously as one of them shifts over to SG. Then next off-season, if Russell showed good progress (which I strongly believe he will) and assuming Lin opts out (which again, I am assuming he does), the Nets can be honest with Lin when negotiating a potential extension. The Nets can tell Lin that Russell is the starting point guard but that they want Lin back as a combo guard on a reasonable contract. He either accepts or walks. I like Lin and want to keep him on the team, but not at expense of developing a Russell-Levert backcourt

Russell is not coming here to be a 6th man sub. I'm not sure how anyone can advocate this. He is literally the most talented player on the team. He is going to not only start, but will be an offensive focal point.

Lin and Russell will play in the backcourt, if you read the latest interviews Lin and RHJ both said that Lin and Russell will be paired together.

This kid destroyed this team twice last year. Has had big time games. Averaged 15 and 5, shot 35% from down town. Getting him to compete defensively, buying into the culture, and being more efficient within our system are the wildcards. But other than that, you guys are selling this kid short if you think he's someone that is going to sit bench, or needs to be coddled or brought along slowly. He's literally the franchise player right now. He will play, and I believe he will turn heads under Kenny's watch.

Russell is obviously not coming here to be a backup long term, but he can't do one year of coming off the bench to ease the adjustment of learning the system, getting familiar with new teammates and coaches, learning to be a professional from Lin, and adjusting to living/playing in a new city/stadium? I mean he is only 21 years old and this year should be about developing players at their optimal positions and not winning. Even as a 6th man russell will still be getting close to 30 minutes a night as obviously Lin and Russell will spend some time playing in the backcourt together (which I already mentioned in my last post - I didnt read anything that Lin and rhj said that implies Russell will be starting as it seems like something you inferred). And I don't agree with you at all that the starting perimeter should be Lin at PG, Russell at SG, and Levert at SF. You are not playing Levert or Russell at their optimal positions. And when Lin opts out next year and leaves, Atkinson will be forced to move Russell to PG and levert to SG anyways.

Also, i have read the reports with Lin and rhj's comments. And again, I didn't read anything that Lin and rhj said that implies Russell will be starting as it seems like something you just inferred. And just to humor you, even if those comments were to be taken as Russell starting with Lin, I forgot Lin and Russell were the head coaches who decide who plays their minutes at what positions and how many minutes they play overall. So if you like reading, here are some interesting quotes:

"The Nets wanted Russell because they were concerned they might wind up without a point guard next summer, according to a tweet from NetsDaily. Brooklyn had been facing a 2018 decision on whether to re-sign Lopez, along with the possibility that Jeremy Lin would opt out." - agrres to my point that Atkinson will probably be forced to move him to the PG spot eventually anyways.

And another:

In an interview for YES Network’s Nets Magazine before the last home game, Sean Marks said that while the Nets have a number of needs, “I think we know the 3 position for us is certainly one that needs to be addressed.” - so unless trading for russell magically makes levert better at the 3, I think Marks is going another way.

[MrDollarBills]

I think the best move would be to develop Russell as a point guard also. I think him and levert would make a great backcourt duo as they are both long, each can play of the ball as the other one has his respective turn running the offense, and are similar in age so can mature together.

However, I think it would be prudent to let him be the super six man for the team this year. The nets are not winning a championship this year so I think it would be smart for the Nets not to put too much pressure on him too fast. Let him adjust to new teammates and a new city, learn the system from Lin and Atkinson, and learn how to be a great professional from Lin this year without the pressure of being a full-time starter and go to scorer. He can also get some minutes with Lin obviously as one of them shifts over to SG. Then next off-season, if Russell showed good progress (which I strongly believe he will) and assuming Lin opts out (which again, I am assuming he does), the Nets can be honest with Lin when negotiating a potential extension. The Nets can tell Lin that Russell is the starting point guard but that they want Lin back as a combo guard on a reasonable contract. He either accepts or walks. I like Lin and want to keep him on the team, but not at expense of developing a Russell-Levert backcourt

Russell is not coming here to be a 6th man sub. I'm not sure how anyone can advocate this. He is literally the most talented player on the team. He is going to not only start, but will be an offensive focal point.

Lin and Russell will play in the backcourt, if you read the latest interviews Lin and RHJ both said that Lin and Russell will be paired together.

This kid destroyed this team twice last year. Has had big time games. Averaged 15 and 5, shot 35% from down town. Getting him to compete defensively, buying into the culture, and being more efficient within our system are the wildcards. But other than that, you guys are selling this kid short if you think he's someone that is going to sit bench, or needs to be coddled or brought along slowly. He's literally the franchise player right now. He will play, and I believe he will turn heads under Kenny's watch.

Russell is obviously not coming here to be a backup long term, but he can't do one year of coming off the bench to ease the adjustment of learning the system, getting familiar with new teammates and coaches, learning to be a professional from Lin, and adjusting to living/playing in a new city/stadium? I mean he is only 21 years old and this year should be about developing players at their optimal positions and not winning. Even as a 6th man russell will still be getting close to 30 minutes a night as obviously Lin and Russell will spend some time playing in the backcourt together (which I already mentioned in my last post - I didnt read anything that Lin and rhj said that implies Russell will be starting as it seems like something you inferred). And I don't agree with you at all that the starting perimeter should be Lin at PG, Russell at SG, and Levert at SF. You are not playing Levert or Russell at their optimal positions. And when Lin opts out next year and leaves, Atkinson will be forced to move Russell to PG and levert to SG anyways.

Also, i have read the reports with Lin and rhj's comments. And again, I didn't read anything that Lin and rhj said that implies Russell will be starting as it seems like something you just inferred. And just to humor you, even if those comments were to be taken as Russell starting with Lin, I forgot Lin and Russell were the head coaches who decide who plays their minutes at what positions and how many minutes they play overall. So if you like reading, here are some interesting quotes:

"The Nets wanted Russell because they were concerned they might wind up without a point guard next summer, according to a tweet from NetsDaily. Brooklyn had been facing a 2018 decision on whether to re-sign Lopez, along with the possibility that Jeremy Lin would opt out." - agrres to my point that Atkinson will probably be forced to move him to the PG spot eventually anyways.

And another:

In an interview for YES Network’s Nets Magazine before the last home game, Sean Marks said that while the Nets have a number of needs, “I think we know the 3 position for us is certainly one that needs to be addressed.” - so unless trading for russell magically makes levert better at the 3, I think Marks is going another way.

Russell is not coming in here to sit bench, this is utterly ridiculous, he is literally the top player on this team now talent wise. He's a 3rd year NBA pro, not some 18 year old kid, all of those reasons that you're giving are frankly poor. He needs time to adjust to the city...learn system...learn from Lin....WTF? Are you serious?

Yeah, the guy that came into Barclays and destroyed the Nets to a 30+ point, multiple 3pt bomb outburst a few weeks back needs to be coddled like a baby, and sit under Jeremy Lin's lap. Give me a break.

LeVert played SF just fine last year. Russell played SG after all star break if i'm not mistaken and posted good production. It doesn't even really matter, Nets are shifting towards a positionless style of play with multiple ball handlers and shooters. Lin, Russell, LeVert will all have the ball in and out of their hands.

Your post reeks of some kind of insecurity about Russell taking minutes and the ball away from Lin. That's all I can gather from it tbh

[shakendfries]

this forum ever since trading for d'lo

[NyCeEvO]

Not surprising to see the reports of the Spurs considering a move of Danny Green for cap space in order to make a run at a big FA (CP3?)

Considering this team is lacking in shooters and he's well-versed in the "Spurs way" I think he would be an excellent addition. Is the contract just high enough that he can be had without giving up an assets?

Danny Green is the type of 3&D player (and especially contract) I'd want on the Nets.

I loathe the idea of giving Otto Porter $20+mil/year. Before the addition of Bojan, I was already making the case before the Wizards acquired Bogs that (while Porter needs to be credited with improving his game), his production will go back down the moment he doesn't have Wall and Beal attracting defenses away from him. Once another competent marksman in Bogs showed up, Otto declined pretty hard.

Prior to March his FG% was well over .500; in March, he was .485 and in his four games in April, he shot 42.4% from the field.
His 3pt% took a nosedive as well...he was leading the league before March and then 35.9% from 3 in March and then 28.6% in 4 games in March.

Things are supposed to get easier for you when you add talent, not harder.

Giving Otto Porter a max deal is an easy and hard NO from me.

i was right with you until the russell trade. now we are so young with so much rookie money i can live with porter at 4/102. i think its worth the gamble now.

IMO, there's nothing to gamble. Even if we had $60mil in cap space I'd say don't give him that money because it's a bad investment that you won't get an adequate return on.

To me, it makes zero sense to blow just about all of your cap on Otto Porter, who fell off when more talent was added to his team. The late February, March, and April play just solidified my belief he benefited from the right calibration of a system that allowed him to shine. The moment anything tinkered with that, it burst his bubble.

Porter is just like every hot 6th man commodity that is drooled over each year. People can't stop talking about him throughout the season, he finally gets his big contract, inevitably returns back to the mean to the following season, and everyone forgets about him (except for the pissed off fanbase that acquired him) when they see can't reproduce the results of the previous year and have to hold on to him for 4 seasons.

[NyCeEvO]

Well it's a definite concern but I don't think it's that bad. He has had 3 full seasons out of 7 played, and in the other 3 out of 4 seasons, he has still played over 60 games.

His most recent 3 seasons he's played in 67, 35, and 61 games respectively. That's pretty bad reliability and an average of 54.333 games per season.

Additionally, his numbers over those past three seasons are actually lower than the previous 3 seasons.

The last thing the Nets should do is spend their rest of the cap on a player who can't be relied upon healthwise and at best appears to have stagnated in his growth.

More important than all of this is wondering why would Griffin sign here even if other teams are a bit off in offering a full max? Players seem to make so much money these days that they don't mind giving back a few to play on better teams. I don't see this happening.

i agree on all of that with griffin.

but id still sign him... it would be a step back towards respectability and being considered as an FA. and blake is a popular dude other guys want to play with

Except no one would be able to play with him when the Nets are capped out and can only afford to re-sign their young players on rookie contracts to extensions.

[Packers+NetsWIN]

Russell is not coming here to be a 6th man sub. I'm not sure how anyone can advocate this. He is literally the most talented player on the team. He is going to not only start, but will be an offensive focal point.

Lin and Russell will play in the backcourt, if you read the latest interviews Lin and RHJ both said that Lin and Russell will be paired together.

This kid destroyed this team twice last year. Has had big time games. Averaged 15 and 5, shot 35% from down town. Getting him to compete defensively, buying into the culture, and being more efficient within our system are the wildcards. But other than that, you guys are selling this kid short if you think he's someone that is going to sit bench, or needs to be coddled or brought along slowly. He's literally the franchise player right now. He will play, and I believe he will turn heads under Kenny's watch.

Russell is obviously not coming here to be a backup long term, but he can't do one year of coming off the bench to ease the adjustment of learning the system, getting familiar with new teammates and coaches, learning to be a professional from Lin, and adjusting to living/playing in a new city/stadium? I mean he is only 21 years old and this year should be about developing players at their optimal positions and not winning. Even as a 6th man russell will still be getting close to 30 minutes a night as obviously Lin and Russell will spend some time playing in the backcourt together (which I already mentioned in my last post - I didnt read anything that Lin and rhj said that implies Russell will be starting as it seems like something you inferred). And I don't agree with you at all that the starting perimeter should be Lin at PG, Russell at SG, and Levert at SF. You are not playing Levert or Russell at their optimal positions. And when Lin opts out next year and leaves, Atkinson will be forced to move Russell to PG and levert to SG anyways.

Also, i have read the reports with Lin and rhj's comments. And again, I didn't read anything that Lin and rhj said that implies Russell will be starting as it seems like something you just inferred. And just to humor you, even if those comments were to be taken as Russell starting with Lin, I forgot Lin and Russell were the head coaches who decide who plays their minutes at what positions and how many minutes they play overall. So if you like reading, here are some interesting quotes:

"The Nets wanted Russell because they were concerned they might wind up without a point guard next summer, according to a tweet from NetsDaily. Brooklyn had been facing a 2018 decision on whether to re-sign Lopez, along with the possibility that Jeremy Lin would opt out." - agrres to my point that Atkinson will probably be forced to move him to the PG spot eventually anyways.

And another:

In an interview for YES Network’s Nets Magazine before the last home game, Sean Marks said that while the Nets have a number of needs, “I think we know the 3 position for us is certainly one that needs to be addressed.” - so unless trading for russell magically makes levert better at the 3, I think Marks is going another way.

Russell is not coming in here to sit bench, this is utterly ridiculous, he is literally the top player on this team now talent wise. He's a 3rd year NBA pro, not some 18 year old kid, all of those reasons that you're giving are frankly poor. He needs time to adjust to the city...learn system...learn from Lin....WTF? Are you serious?

Yeah, the guy that came into Barclays and destroyed the Nets to a 30+ point, multiple 3pt bomb outburst a few weeks back needs to be coddled like a baby, and sit under Jeremy Lin's lap. Give me a break.

LeVert played SF just fine last year. Russell played SG after all star break if i'm not mistaken and posted good production. It doesn't even really matter, Nets are shifting towards a positionless style of play with multiple ball handlers and shooters. Lin, Russell, LeVert will all have the ball in and out of their hands.

Your post reeks of some kind of insecurity about Russell taking minutes and the ball away from Lin. That's all I can gather from it tbh

Yes I am serious. You mean a 21 year old, who has already shown lapses in judgement can't learn to act more professional and the system from Lin, who by all accounts is a great teammate and role model? This is the 4th different coach he will be playing for in the last 4 years (college coach, Scott, Walton, and now Atkinson). He is under control for the next 6 years at minimum (unless of course management lets him walk at the end of his rookie contract which I hope they don't do).

And wow, really! You mean he scored 30+ points on the the worst team in the league last year?! Forget about it, he should just retire and put him in the hall of fame now! Lol

I dont understand why you are beinf so defensive. He ia obviously going to play 30 minutes a game and be involved the whole year.

Also, just for the record, I like Lin and glad he is out the team. But next year, if its a choice between him and Russell, I take Russell every time. Nezt years nets should offer Lin a contract and tell him if he signs, he will the backup to Russel and a combo guard off the bench. So nice try with that Lin homer argument but you are completely wrong.

[NyCeEvO]

I'd easily take Green plus a pick (late 1st or 2nd) for Skil if it means us gaining another asset, rolling over a good amount of cap space (which means not taking Otto Porter) so we can possibly gain an asset and a bloated contract again next year or simply have money to sign good talent.

Also, now that the cap is at $99mil I'm sure POR will be pining even more to dump a contract. I'd absolutely love it if the Nets ended up with Green & late 1st rounder from SAS and Leonard & 15 from POR tonight. (More reastically, I expect Green & a 2nd round picks from SAS and Leonard or Harkless plus 20th pick from POR. Still a good package though.) We would still have a good amount of cap space for next offseason and will have improved our team's overall talent and depth heading into next season.

[NyCeEvO]

Russell is not coming here to be a 6th man sub. I'm not sure how anyone can advocate this. He is literally the most talented player on the team. He is going to not only start, but will be an offensive focal point.

Lin and Russell will play in the backcourt, if you read the latest interviews Lin and RHJ both said that Lin and Russell will be paired together.

This kid destroyed this team twice last year. Has had big time games. Averaged 15 and 5, shot 35% from down town. Getting him to compete defensively, buying into the culture, and being more efficient within our system are the wildcards. But other than that, you guys are selling this kid short if you think he's someone that is going to sit bench, or needs to be coddled or brought along slowly. He's literally the franchise player right now. He will play, and I believe he will turn heads under Kenny's watch.

Russell is obviously not coming here to be a backup long term, but he can't do one year of coming off the bench to ease the adjustment of learning the system, getting familiar with new teammates and coaches, learning to be a professional from Lin, and adjusting to living/playing in a new city/stadium? I mean he is only 21 years old and this year should be about developing players at their optimal positions and not winning. Even as a 6th man russell will still be getting close to 30 minutes a night as obviously Lin and Russell will spend some time playing in the backcourt together (which I already mentioned in my last post - I didnt read anything that Lin and rhj said that implies Russell will be starting as it seems like something you inferred). And I don't agree with you at all that the starting perimeter should be Lin at PG, Russell at SG, and Levert at SF. You are not playing Levert or Russell at their optimal positions. And when Lin opts out next year and leaves, Atkinson will be forced to move Russell to PG and levert to SG anyways.

Also, i have read the reports with Lin and rhj's comments. And again, I didn't read anything that Lin and rhj said that implies Russell will be starting as it seems like something you just inferred. And just to humor you, even if those comments were to be taken as Russell starting with Lin, I forgot Lin and Russell were the head coaches who decide who plays their minutes at what positions and how many minutes they play overall. So if you like reading, here are some interesting quotes:

"The Nets wanted Russell because they were concerned they might wind up without a point guard next summer, according to a tweet from NetsDaily. Brooklyn had been facing a 2018 decision on whether to re-sign Lopez, along with the possibility that Jeremy Lin would opt out." - agrres to my point that Atkinson will probably be forced to move him to the PG spot eventually anyways.

And another:

In an interview for YES Network’s Nets Magazine before the last home game, Sean Marks said that while the Nets have a number of needs, “I think we know the 3 position for us is certainly one that needs to be addressed.” - so unless trading for russell magically makes levert better at the 3, I think Marks is going another way.

Russell is not coming in here to sit bench, this is utterly ridiculous, he is literally the top player on this team now talent wise. He's a 3rd year NBA pro, not some 18 year old kid, all of those reasons that you're giving are frankly poor. He needs time to adjust to the city...learn system...learn from Lin....WTF? Are you serious?

Yeah, the guy that came into Barclays and destroyed the Nets to a 30+ point, multiple 3pt bomb outburst a few weeks back needs to be coddled like a baby, and sit under Jeremy Lin's lap. Give me a break.

LeVert played SF just fine last year. Russell played SG after all star break if i'm not mistaken and posted good production. It doesn't even really matter, Nets are shifting towards a positionless style of play with multiple ball handlers and shooters. Lin, Russell, LeVert will all have the ball in and out of their hands.

Your post reeks of some kind of insecurity about Russell taking minutes and the ball away from Lin. That's all I can gather from it tbh

I don't know why y'all are even debating this.

Let Kenny and company worry about who's going to start and how many minutes they will play. He's the one who has actually spent time developing guys who thought too highly of themselves and/or weren't that good to begin with (e.g. Kent Bazemore, Schroder).

[MrDollarBills]

I'd easily take Green plus a pick (late 1st or 2nd) for Skil if it means us gaining another asset, rolling over a good amount of cap space (which means not taking Otto Porter) so we can possibly gain an asset and a bloated contract again next year or simply have money to sign good talent.

Also, now that the cap is at $99mil I'm sure POR will be pining even more to dump a contract. I'd absolutely love it if the Nets ended up with Green & late 1st rounder from SAS and Leonard & 15 from POR tonight. (More reastically, I expect Green & a 2nd round picks from SAS and Leonard or Harkless plus 20th pick from POR. Still a good package though.) We would still have a good amount of cap space for next offseason and will have improved our team's overall talent and depth heading into next season.

We actually have a need for a stretch 4 now with Mozgov here. I'm open to taking back Leonard for one of their picks.

[NyCeEvO]

I'd easily take Green plus a pick (late 1st or 2nd) for Skil if it means us gaining another asset, rolling over a good amount of cap space (which means not taking Otto Porter) so we can possibly gain an asset and a bloated contract again next year or simply have money to sign good talent.

Also, now that the cap is at $99mil I'm sure POR will be pining even more to dump a contract. I'd absolutely love it if the Nets ended up with Green & late 1st rounder from SAS and Leonard & 15 from POR tonight. (More reastically, I expect Green & a 2nd round picks from SAS and Leonard or Harkless plus 20th pick from POR. Still a good package though.) We would still have a good amount of cap space for next offseason and will have improved our team's overall talent and depth heading into next season.

We actually have a need for a stretch 4 now with Mozgov here. I'm open to taking back Leonard for one of their picks.

Leonard's contract really isn't that bad tbh. Anything north of $12mil is when I start getting concerned. He's not quick but he's athletic and can shoot 3s. If the Nets get any of POR's 1st rounders along with him, that would be awesome. If we dumped Nicholson on them, that's a grand slam.

[J_LA]

Russell is obviously not coming here to be a backup long term, but he can't do one year of coming off the bench to ease the adjustment of learning the system, getting familiar with new teammates and coaches, learning to be a professional from Lin, and adjusting to living/playing in a new city/stadium? I mean he is only 21 years old and this year should be about developing players at their optimal positions and not winning. Even as a 6th man russell will still be getting close to 30 minutes a night as obviously Lin and Russell will spend some time playing in the backcourt together (which I already mentioned in my last post - I didnt read anything that Lin and rhj said that implies Russell will be starting as it seems like something you inferred). And I don't agree with you at all that the starting perimeter should be Lin at PG, Russell at SG, and Levert at SF. You are not playing Levert or Russell at their optimal positions. And when Lin opts out next year and leaves, Atkinson will be forced to move Russell to PG and levert to SG anyways.

Also, i have read the reports with Lin and rhj's comments. And again, I didn't read anything that Lin and rhj said that implies Russell will be starting as it seems like something you just inferred. And just to humor you, even if those comments were to be taken as Russell starting with Lin, I forgot Lin and Russell were the head coaches who decide who plays their minutes at what positions and how many minutes they play overall. So if you like reading, here are some interesting quotes:

"The Nets wanted Russell because they were concerned they might wind up without a point guard next summer, according to a tweet from NetsDaily. Brooklyn had been facing a 2018 decision on whether to re-sign Lopez, along with the possibility that Jeremy Lin would opt out." - agrres to my point that Atkinson will probably be forced to move him to the PG spot eventually anyways.

And another:

In an interview for YES Network’s Nets Magazine before the last home game, Sean Marks said that while the Nets have a number of needs, “I think we know the 3 position for us is certainly one that needs to be addressed.” - so unless trading for russell magically makes levert better at the 3, I think Marks is going another way.

Russell is not coming in here to sit bench, this is utterly ridiculous, he is literally the top player on this team now talent wise. He's a 3rd year NBA pro, not some 18 year old kid, all of those reasons that you're giving are frankly poor. He needs time to adjust to the city...learn system...learn from Lin....WTF? Are you serious?

Yeah, the guy that came into Barclays and destroyed the Nets to a 30+ point, multiple 3pt bomb outburst a few weeks back needs to be coddled like a baby, and sit under Jeremy Lin's lap. Give me a break.

LeVert played SF just fine last year. Russell played SG after all star break if i'm not mistaken and posted good production. It doesn't even really matter, Nets are shifting towards a positionless style of play with multiple ball handlers and shooters. Lin, Russell, LeVert will all have the ball in and out of their hands.

Your post reeks of some kind of insecurity about Russell taking minutes and the ball away from Lin. That's all I can gather from it tbh

Yes I am serious. You mean a 21 year old, who has already shown lapses in judgement can't learn to act more professional and the system from Lin, who by all accounts is a great teammate and role model? This is the 4th different coach he will be playing for in the last 4 years (college coach, Scott, Walton, and now Atkinson). He is under control for the next 6 years at minimum (unless of course management lets him walk at the end of his rookie contract which I hope they don't do).

And wow, really! You mean he scored 30+ points on the the worst team in the league last year?! Forget about it, he should just retire and put him in the hall of fame now! Lol

I dont understand why you are beinf so defensive. He ia obviously going to play 30 minutes a game and be involved the whole year.

Also, just for the record, I like Lin and glad he is out the team. But next year, if its a choice between him and Russell, I take Russell every time. Nezt years nets should offer Lin a contract and tell him if he signs, he will the backup to Russel and a combo guard off the bench. So nice try with that Lin homer argument but you are completely wrong.

Tbf he also scored 40 on the defending champs last year

[Keith Van Horn]

I'd easily take Green plus a pick (late 1st or 2nd) for Skil if it means us gaining another asset, rolling over a good amount of cap space (which means not taking Otto Porter) so we can possibly gain an asset and a bloated contract again next year or simply have money to sign good talent.

Also, now that the cap is at $99mil I'm sure POR will be pining even more to dump a contract. I'd absolutely love it if the Nets ended up with Green & late 1st rounder from SAS and Leonard & 15 from POR tonight. (More reastically, I expect Green & a 2nd round picks from SAS and Leonard or Harkless plus 20th pick from POR. Still a good package though.) We would still have a good amount of cap space for next offseason and will have improved our team's overall talent and depth heading into next season.

We actually have a need for a stretch 4 now with Mozgov here. I'm open to taking back Leonard for one of their picks.

I like the possibility of drafting that Pasecniks kid to fill that position.

Or trading for Ryan Anderson... Houston 1st, Nicholson, and Hamilton for him.

[TheNetsFan]

I'd easily take Green plus a pick (late 1st or 2nd) for Skil if it means us gaining another asset, rolling over a good amount of cap space (which means not taking Otto Porter) so we can possibly gain an asset and a bloated contract again next year or simply have money to sign good talent.

Also, now that the cap is at $99mil I'm sure POR will be pining even more to dump a contract. I'd absolutely love it if the Nets ended up with Green & late 1st rounder from SAS and Leonard & 15 from POR tonight. (More reastically, I expect Green & a 2nd round picks from SAS and Leonard or Harkless plus 20th pick from POR. Still a good package though.) We would still have a good amount of cap space for next offseason and will have improved our team's overall talent and depth heading into next season.

San Antonio will find a taker for Green, without having to attach a pick. They'll probably get a 2nd back in return.

[Packers+NetsWIN]

Russell is not coming in here to sit bench, this is utterly ridiculous, he is literally the top player on this team now talent wise. He's a 3rd year NBA pro, not some 18 year old kid, all of those reasons that you're giving are frankly poor. He needs time to adjust to the city...learn system...learn from Lin....WTF? Are you serious?

Yeah, the guy that came into Barclays and destroyed the Nets to a 30+ point, multiple 3pt bomb outburst a few weeks back needs to be coddled like a baby, and sit under Jeremy Lin's lap. Give me a break.

LeVert played SF just fine last year. Russell played SG after all star break if i'm not mistaken and posted good production. It doesn't even really matter, Nets are shifting towards a positionless style of play with multiple ball handlers and shooters. Lin, Russell, LeVert will all have the ball in and out of their hands.

Your post reeks of some kind of insecurity about Russell taking minutes and the ball away from Lin. That's all I can gather from it tbh

Yes I am serious. You mean a 21 year old, who has already shown lapses in judgement can't learn to act more professional and the system from Lin, who by all accounts is a great teammate and role model? This is the 4th different coach he will be playing for in the last 4 years (college coach, Scott, Walton, and now Atkinson). He is under control for the next 6 years at minimum (unless of course management lets him walk at the end of his rookie contract which I hope they don't do).

And wow, really! You mean he scored 30+ points on the the worst team in the league last year?! Forget about it, he should just retire and put him in the hall of fame now! Lol

I dont understand why you are beinf so defensive. He ia obviously going to play 30 minutes a game and be involved the whole year.

Also, just for the record, I like Lin and glad he is out the team. But next year, if its a choice between him and Russell, I take Russell every time. Nezt years nets should offer Lin a contract and tell him if he signs, he will the backup to Russel and a combo guard off the bench. So nice try with that Lin homer argument but you are completely wrong.

Tbf he also scored 40 on the defending champs last year

Yes he did, and it was very impressive. I'm not debating the fact that he isn't talented because he is. I am not debating I want him on the team. because I do. I am debating the fact of what I, just my opinion, think is in the best interest of the team. Letting Russel develop at point guard helps the team in the long run.

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I'd easily take Green plus a pick (late 1st or 2nd) for Skil if it means us gaining another asset, rolling over a good amount of cap space (which means not taking Otto Porter) so we can possibly gain an asset and a bloated contract again next year or simply have money to sign good talent.

Also, now that the cap is at $99mil I'm sure POR will be pining even more to dump a contract. I'd absolutely love it if the Nets ended up with Green & late 1st rounder from SAS and Leonard & 15 from POR tonight. (More reastically, I expect Green & a 2nd round picks from SAS and Leonard or Harkless plus 20th pick from POR. Still a good package though.) We would still have a good amount of cap space for next offseason and will have improved our team's overall talent and depth heading into next season.

We actually have a need for a stretch 4 now with Mozgov here. I'm open to taking back Leonard for one of their picks.

I like the possibility of drafting that Pasecniks kid to fill that position.

Or trading for Ryan Anderson... Houston 1st, Nicholson, and Hamilton for him.

I really want to Pasecniks. I think the Nets will find a way to get another 1st round pick to take him and Wilson.

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Yes I am serious. You mean a 21 year old, who has already shown lapses in judgement can't learn to act more professional and the system from Lin, who by all accounts is a great teammate and role model? This is the 4th different coach he will be playing for in the last 4 years (college coach, Scott, Walton, and now Atkinson). He is under control for the next 6 years at minimum (unless of course management lets him walk at the end of his rookie contract which I hope they don't do).

And wow, really! You mean he scored 30+ points on the the worst team in the league last year?! Forget about it, he should just retire and put him in the hall of fame now! Lol

I dont understand why you are beinf so defensive. He ia obviously going to play 30 minutes a game and be involved the whole year.

Also, just for the record, I like Lin and glad he is out the team. But next year, if its a choice between him and Russell, I take Russell every time. Nezt years nets should offer Lin a contract and tell him if he signs, he will the backup to Russel and a combo guard off the bench. So nice try with that Lin homer argument but you are completely wrong.

Tbf he also scored 40 on the defending champs last year

Yes he did, and it was very impressive. I'm not debating the fact that he isn't talented because he is. I am not debating I want him on the team. because I do. I am debating the fact of what I, just my opinion, think is in the best interest of the team. Letting Russel develop at point guard helps the team in the long run.

If your'e suggesting he come off the bench next season I don't think it's a good idea and I don't think it's necessary. I agree with you as far as Lin's being a good teammate and role model but Russ is probably better than him right now at either position. And his trajectory is upward. If anything, start them together and have them share the ball handling duties but it doesn't make much sense to have your most talented player coming off the bench Imo.

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Tbf he also scored 40 on the defending champs last year

Yes he did, and it was very impressive. I'm not debating the fact that he isn't talented because he is. I am not debating I want him on the team. because I do. I am debating the fact of what I, just my opinion, think is in the best interest of the team. Letting Russel develop at point guard helps the team in the long run.

If your'e suggesting he come off the bench next season I don't think it's a good idea and I don't think it's necessary. I agree with you as far as Lin's being a good teammate and role model but Russ is probably better than him right now at either position. And his trajectory is upward. If anything, start them together and have them share the ball handling duties but it doesn't make much sense to have your most talented player coming off the bench Imo.

You make some good points and I can see your side. If that's the way Atkinson goes, I would completely understand it. Just in my personal opinion, but since the team is not going to compete this year I think it is best to play everyone at the positions they play the best at. And in my scenario, next year after Lin opts, the nets can offer him a reasonable contract and make it clear before he signs that if he signs, he will be the 6th man. If Russell is the SG and then Lin opts out and leaves, then that means we start all over from scratch at the point guard position. Which the team must be at least contemplating from the quote I posted earlier.

Also, Russell is obviously going to play a ton even if he doesn't start or does start. And on a side note, I think it is important that we build a culture for potential FAs down the road to like. Last year they gave Lin, a veteran free agent, the starting POINT GUARD job. I think the fact that we told him he would be the starting point guard was big for him when signing. This is just completely my option and has no facts to support it, but it may look bad to potential free agents to replace a well respected veteran in his prime after one injury riddled season.

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With the cap projection dropping another $2mil (I'm assuming the tax threshold drops too), does make a guy like Porter less likely to be matched by their notoriously anti-tax owner, especially with Wall eligible for the super-max extension?

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