Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II

Fury · Post #341 » by **Fury** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:55 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:That might have been the angriest post I've ever written on RealGM.

god shammgod · Post #342 » by **god shammgod** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:58 pm

Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:
Soo you need to get over your **** hatrade for the guy and just embrace him and his beliefs.

to what end ? what do you expect the situation to be when he walks away ? i'll tell you what it will be. the complete abolition of all his beliefs. they're not gonna run the triangle for the next 10 years in msg. no way. he'll walk away. the knicks will have a few good players and a bunch of bad ones, very few wins, and a need to start over. you know how i know ? because that's the situation every year with him. every fall it's grand opening. every summer it's grand closing.

SelbyCobra · Post #343 » by **SelbyCobra** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:00 pm

god shammgod wrote:
SelbyCobra wrote:The hardest part about trading KP for me would be having to tell my son.

I can pretty easily work my way through it for myself, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who bonded with one of his children over KP's explosion onto the scene these last two years.

you already f*cked up by making him a knicks fan. this is your fault.

It's even worse: we live in Warriors territory. That's what I'm denying him.

But I also gave him the Yankees so there's a good amount of netting-out going on.

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #344 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:02 pm

Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:
Dude phil jackson is an 11 time champion. He knows what it takes to win.

Wtf has melo and kp won?? ***** nothing.

It boggles my mind how lost most of you guys continue to be.

AS A **** COACH. Holy **** ****, dude, are you that dense that you don't know the difference between coaching teams to 11 championships with LOADED teams and being a FO executive? Seriously? He knows what it takes to win as a COACH, but just because he can COACH does not mean he will be a successful FO EXECUTIVE. JUST LIKE being a great PLAYER does not mean you will be a great COACH or FO EXECUTIVE. The jobs are **** different.

It boggles my mind how **** stupid people can be when they say "LALALA RINGZ RINGZ RINGZ."

Phil won't be here once his contract ends. KP WILL. He is the **** future of this team, not some senile egotistical twat **** who has no **** idea what he's doing.

Robert Horry has RINGZZZZZ he knows how to win, right? He'll be a better FO exec than everyone who has fewer RINGZ than him, right? FOH with that bull logic. THE JOB IS **** DIFFERENT. WHAT HE DID AS A COACH MEANS JACK **** TO HIIM AS AN EXECUTIVE.

I'll ask you again WT****** has melo and kp won?? Abso*****lutely nothing

holy***** phil isnt going anywhere anytime soon. Its highly likely at this point that he out lasts both melo and kp and rightfully so.

Soo you need to get over your **** hatrade for the guy and just embrace him and his beliefs.

I'm not going to get off my "haterade" because the senile **** deserves it. KP/Melo aren't the ones running the team, Phil is. Phil's winning in a completely unrelated field has nothing to do with what he can do as a FO executive. IT'S A DIFFERENT **** JOB. Stop saying "RINGZZZZZZ" and using that as a way to prop up Phil and follow his every word as if he's **** god. He's not. Melo won in college and plenty of times in international play and I'm sure KP won a bunch of tournaments when he was younger. Can I use that? NO. Because it's ILLOGICAL. His beliefs have **** this team over and the fact that you cannot see that shows that you aren't worth a further keystroke from me.

god shammgod · Post #345 » by **god shammgod** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:02 pm

SelbyCobra wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
SelbyCobra wrote:The hardest part about trading KP for me would be having to tell my son.

I can pretty easily work my way through it for myself, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who bonded with one of his children over KP's explosion onto the scene these last two years.

you already f*cked up by making him a knicks fan. this is your fault.

It's even worse: we live in Warriors territory. That's what I'm denying him.

But I also gave him the Yankees so there's a good amount of netting-out going on.

oh my god.....i have a good mind to call child services!

MeloNY · Post #346 » by **MeloNY** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:08 pm

So it took Phil willing to deal KP for cats to realize Phil is a cancer? This guy was a clown long before that.

Lord Commander · Post #347 » by **Lord Commander** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:09 pm

April madness wrote:
ToHoleWithSoul wrote:Jesus, he's only deadlifting 135? My 17 year old niece is doing that.

Your niece is lifting 135 kilos? Why????? Is she an olympic weight lifter or what?

Pounds

Icandoallthings · Post #348 » by **Icandoallthings** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:10 pm

Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:
Dude phil jackson is an 11 time champion. He knows what it takes to win.

Wtf has melo and kp won?? ***** nothing.

It boggles my mind how lost most of you guys continue to be.

AS A **** COACH. Holy **** ****, dude, are you that dense that you don't know the difference between coaching teams to 11 championships with LOADED teams and being a FO executive? Seriously? He knows what it takes to win as a COACH, but just because he can COACH does not mean he will be a successful FO EXECUTIVE. JUST LIKE being a great PLAYER does not mean you will be a great COACH or FO EXECUTIVE. The jobs are **** different.

It boggles my mind how **** stupid people can be when they say "LALALA RINGZ RINGZ RINGZ."

Phil won't be here once his contract ends. KP WILL. He is the **** future of this team, not some senile egotistical twat **** who has no **** idea what he's doing.

Robert Horry has RINGZZZZZ he knows how to win, right? He'll be a better FO exec than everyone who has fewer RINGZ than him, right? FOH with that bull logic. THE JOB IS **** DIFFERENT. WHAT HE DID AS A COACH MEANS JACK **** TO HIIM AS AN EXECUTIVE.

I'll ask you again WT****** has melo and kp won?? Abso*****lutely nothing

holy***** phil isnt going anywhere anytime soon. Its highly likely at this point that he out lasts both melo and kp and rightfully so.

Soo you need to get over your **** hatrade for the guy and just embrace him and his beliefs.

Exactly, Phil is the inoperable brain tumor of Nba GM's.

Dkillanyk4lyf · Post #349 » by **Dkillanyk4lyf** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:11 pm

sol537 wrote:

hopefully this gets done.

Phil needs get rid of this guy and melo asap and bring in players who believe in the culture hes trying to establish bot ruin it.

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #350 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:13 pm

Icandoallthings wrote:
Exactly, Phil is the inoperable brain tumor of Nba GM's.

This is **** perfect, omg. VERY well done.

Fury · Post #351 » by **Fury** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:13 pm

Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:
sol537 wrote:

hopefully this gets done.

Phil needs get rid of this guy and melo asap and bring in players who believe in the culture hes trying to establish bot ruin it.

Did you even read that **** the dude is talking out of his ass and still saying it's unlikely

Dkillanyk4lyf · Post #352 » by **Dkillanyk4lyf** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:14 pm

Icandoallthings wrote:
Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
AS A **** COACH. Holy **** ****, dude, are you that dense that you don't know the difference between coaching teams to 11 championships with LOADED teams and being a FO executive? Seriously? He knows what it takes to win as a COACH, but just because he can COACH does not mean he will be a successful FO EXECUTIVE. JUST LIKE being a great PLAYER does not mean you will be a great COACH or FO EXECUTIVE. The jobs are **** different.

It boggles my mind how **** stupid people can be when they say "LALALA RINGZ RINGZ RINGZ."

Phil won't be here once his contract ends. KP WILL. He is the **** future of this team, not some senile egotistical twat **** who has no **** idea what he's doing.

Robert Horry has RINGZZZZZ he knows how to win, right? He'll be a better FO exec than everyone who has fewer RINGZ than him, right? FOH with that bull logic. THE JOB IS **** DIFFERENT. WHAT HE DID AS A COACH MEANS JACK **** TO HIIM AS AN EXECUTIVE.

I'll ask you again WT****** has melo and kp won?? Abso*****lutely nothing

holy***** phil isnt going anywhere anytime soon. Its highly likely at this point that he out lasts both melo and kp and rightfully so.

Soo you need to get over your **** hatrade for the guy and just embrace him and his beliefs.

Exactly, Phil is the inoperable brain tumor of Nba GM's.

He's here to stay man. Dont fight it,just embrace it.

Lord Commander · Post #353 » by **Lord Commander** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:14 pm

knicks9784 wrote:
April madness wrote:
ToHoleWithSoul wrote:Jesus, he's only deadlifting 135? My 17 year old niece is doing that.

Your niece is lifting 135 kilos? Why????? Is she an olympic weight lifter or what?

its a romanian deadlift and hes clearly doing do it for strength endurance, higher reps lower weight, versus power or strength. also the dude is huge and biomechanically hes at a great disadvantage for dead lifting because of his limb length so heavy deadlifts from the ground would put him at a much higher risk of injury and not giving him much more benefit. you should be crediting the knicks strength and conditioning staff for taking good care of him instead of mocking the amount of weight you THINK he should be doing

edit: sorry replied to the wrong person, meant to be directed at toholewithsoul

He's a professional athlete. if I'm correct that he is in fact deadlifting two 45lb plates with a 45lb bar, that's kinda pathetic by most standards.

god shammgod · Post #354 » by **god shammgod** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:14 pm

Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:
sol537 wrote:

hopefully this gets done.

Phil needs get rid of this guy and melo asap and bring in players who believe in the culture hes trying to establish bot ruin it.

wow. i see why paco was so angry. you don't even care about the return ? that's madness

thebuzzardman · Post #355 » by **thebuzzardman** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:15 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
LOL, coming from the guy who is a bigger Phil fan than a Knicks fan, this is rich.

Dude phil jackson is an 11 time champion. He knows what it takes to win.

Wtf has melo and kp won?? ***** nothing.

It boggles my mind how lost most of you guys continue to be.

AS A **** COACH. Holy **** ****, dude, are you that dense that you don't know the difference between coaching teams to 11 championships with LOADED teams and being a FO executive? Seriously? He knows what it takes to win as a COACH, but just because he can COACH does not mean he will be a successful FO EXECUTIVE. JUST LIKE being a great PLAYER does not mean you will be a great COACH or FO EXECUTIVE. The jobs are **** different.

It boggles my mind how **** stupid people can be when they say "LALALA RINGZ RINGZ RINGZ."

Phil won't be here once his contract ends. KP WILL. He is the **** future of this team, not some senile egotistical twat **** who has no **** idea what he's doing.

Robert Horry has RINGZZZZZ he knows how to win, right? He'll be a better FO exec than everyone who has fewer RINGZ than him, right? FOH with that bull logic. THE JOB IS **** DIFFERENT. WHAT HE DID AS A COACH MEANS JACK **** TO HIIM AS AN EXECUTIVE.

Being a good coach has to translate better to being an executive than being a good player, but correct, there doesn't have to be a direct correlation. And I know you don't like Phil, but lots of loaded teams won a chip or two but couldn't go dynasty, because, well, I think the coaching made the difference. So, loaded or not, Phil's coaching made a difference. When he was coaching.

I still think based on his experience on all time great Knick teams, that shared the ball and played defense, and later seeing those attributes on his coached teams (though of course it Jordan/Pippen/Kobe/Shaq helped), then understanding that should translate into building a certain culture and style of play. Doesn't mean the same person would understand the cap or personnel moves or making the very best deals either. Phil hasn't been what I thought he would be, but unlike you, I think the jury is still out. Tilted towards bad on the scales, but not over. Ultimately, after 5 years I'll probably say he was bad, but just a bit early for me yet.

Revived · Post #356 » by **Revived** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:16 pm

Read on Twitter

I don't think this guy is legit though.

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #357 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:16 pm

god shammgod wrote:wow. i see why paco was so angry. you don't even care about the return ? that's madness

That's one of many reasons why I legitimately dislike him.

Dkillanyk4lyf · Post #358 » by **Dkillanyk4lyf** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:17 pm

god shammgod wrote:
Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:
sol537 wrote:

hopefully this gets done.

Phil needs get rid of this guy and melo asap and bring in players who believe in the culture hes trying to establish bot ruin it.

wow. i see why paco was so angry. you don't even care about the return ? that's madness

Addition by subtraction. Kp has become to toxic.

god shammgod · Post #359 » by **god shammgod** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:17 pm

Revived wrote:

Read on Twitter

I don't think this guy is legit though.

now even though i wanted to keep kp, booker and 4 i could live with at least....this deal...is sh*t...absolute sh*t

Post #360 » by **Spandau** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:17 pm

Call me weak-willed, lacking in moral fiber, whatever...but the mind games are working - on me.

That's not OK. I'm just a fan. I'm just some guy who listens to every game on TuneIn. I buy merchandise. I love this game - this team, these players - as a reason to smile and enjoy my day just a little bit more. Finding a player, like Kristaps, who really livens up that side of my life in such a way that no player has since Patrick Ewing...it irks me, it stresses me, it makes me worry about losing one tiny part of my life that bring me joy.

It shouldn't! It's just basketball, but here I am, kinda angry about joy being stripped away from me yet again. It's my choice to continue the team-affiliation thing, and I do love the ups-and-downs typically, but the negativity and venom behind it this time just feels more awful than it has before. I like to think I didn't sign up for that when I fell in love with a team affiliation 25 years ago.

I hope the mind games that Phil, Kristaps, Janis, Charley Rosen...whoever...are playing on each other are simply a vehicle by which a stronger relationship will be forged. Even if it's a love-hate relationship, just something where I can not consider these past two years of excitement to be a total waste with a subsequent surge of disappointment. Play together. Win. Be passionate. Be positive. Enjoy the Knicks. Enjoy the game. That's the message these guys should preach to each other, not sniping about in-house politics. It's how I live my life, my business, my politics, and here I am as an idiot wishing his favorite sports team could live the same way.

Being a sports fan shouldn't cause me to worry so much. Time to get a grip. :lol: