Vote! Would you Trade #7 + Cap Space for Crowder

[shrink]

This gets discussed a lot, especially with BOS working out DSJ. We have some Wolves posters who would do it, and others who would not. Let's find out the split.

[NewWolvesOrder]

Straight up NO. with a future pick YES.

[Feilong]

Depends on what is left at #7.

[C.lupus]

Not straight up. I like Crowder on this team but I'd need something else coming back.

[TheDominator273]

Straight up not no, need extra value whether as part of a bigger deal (#16 from Chicago as part of a Butler to Boston deal?) or from a future pick directly from Boston

[Krapinsky]

I think I would need a little more than that.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Love Crowder as a fit, but we are too young in the process to start throwing away lotto picks on glue guys.

[Sugarless]

Crowder would be a good piece to add and I'm in favor of trading out of #7 for a veteran, but I'm not so in love with him as a player compared to the value of top draft picks this year. Considering I expect Fultz, Ball, Tatum, Jackson and Fox to be drafted in the top-5, I'll go with whoever is there between Isaac (my first choice) and DSJ unless there's a more enticing offer.

[minimus]

An easy yes. It's a lottery. You get Dunn or D'Angelo Russell. A sure thing like Crowder experience, defense and bargain contract will make us much better from the day one. Use cap space wisely we will make big step forward. Saying that I should admit that I'd like to get late first round pick in this deal as well. But if Isaac, Tatum and Smith are all drafted before #7 I'd be okay to do it.

[ace625214]

Ah, the time of year where everyone overvalues prospects before coming back to Earth after seeing them play. I can't believe there are so many nos.

Crowder has shot 49.9% or above from 2pt since his rookie season. He shot 39.8% from 3pt last season on a career high number of attempts. He averaged almost 6 rebounds a game. All of this he did, along with All-NBA level defense. What better fit would we have at the 3 spot? Crowder would immediately add toughness and improve our defense, while spacing the floor and not demanding primary-scorer levels of shots. The point of the draft is to hope you can find someone like that.

Our starting lineup was already good, and this would improve it. It also improves the bench, because Zach is now a supercharged 6th man. The odds that you get someone better than Crowder at 7 or later is very low.

[Peezo]

I agree that Crowder is a good fit, but this feels like a overpay. Crowder may be a solid NBA player, but the ceiling of the current available players is much higher. With us trying to build to a contender, we should still be trying to hit homeruns. With Zach's health in question (we cannot act as if we know how he comes back, no matter how many workout videos get posted) we may need another lottery ticket. I like Jae a lot (I'm a Marquette guy), but I would not do this.

I we did a trade around #7 for Jimmy Butler, and we got back the 16 (I don't know what the deal would be), then I would be a lot more interested. Because that would both expedite our timeline and lower the cost (#16 + capspace). However that deal for Butler might make this moot, because it seems as if BOS is clearing space to try and acquire Jimmy + Hayward.

I'm a firm no on this deal. I'd rather have the 6-7 mil in cap and the #7 pick.

[Klomp]

I was one of the yes votes. I understand it might not be perceived as the best possible value, but I think he'd be as close to a sure thing as there is in a trade for just the 7. Not star player upside, but the type of player who can be a core starter for years. And if folks are desperate to move LaVine to 6th man, this is one of the quickest and cost-effective ways to do it.

[horaceworthy]

Voted lower case no. If Isaac isn't there I'd rather trade down and pick up a late 1st/early 2nd and a future pick.

[MN7725]

Straight up NO. with a future pick YES.

Bingo

get back the flexibility lost from Payne trade

Memphis pick top 8 protected in '19, top 6 protected in '20, unprotected in '21

But not before draft

[Klomp]

I'd love it even more if we could swap out Aldrich for Tyler Zeller's unguaranteed deal for 2017-18.

[NewWolvesOrder]

Ah, the time of year where everyone overvalues prospects before coming back to Earth after seeing them play. I can't believe there are so many nos.

Crowder has shot 49.9% or above from 2pt since his rookie season. He shot 39.8% from 3pt last season on a career high number of attempts. He averaged almost 6 rebounds a game. All of this he did, along with All-NBA level defense. What better fit would we have at the 3 spot? Crowder would immediately add toughness and improve our defense, while spacing the floor and not demanding primary-scorer levels of shots. The point of the draft is to hope you can find someone like that.

Our starting lineup was already good, and this would improve it. It also improves the bench, because Zach is now a supercharged 6th man. The odds that you get someone better than Crowder at 7 or later is very low.

But we can get a Starbury reincarnated in DSJ.

[slinky]

I voted NO as I can't bring myself to trade what by many accounts is a very valuable pick to ONLY balance out the roster. Now I get Crowder brings more value than where it allows Wiggins and Lavine to play...but at this point in the wolves timeline, i can't trade a decent opportunity at a star for a solid role player. I would rather us spend on a role player in FA AND/OR have Thibs prove he can develop 'guys' that will fit his system.

Now if Thibs was going all in this year, planning on building a strong 8-9 man rotation and he is shooting for 'the future is now'...than sure why not. Crowder is good fit. I am just not there yet personally. I am still on the slow burn path to relevance.

[Klomp]

I would rather us spend on a role player in FA AND/OR have Thibs prove he can develop 'guys' that will fit his system.

Here's my response to that. Look what 3/D players cost in free agency last year. I think I'd rather pay under $8 million/year over the next 3 seasons than have to pay a similar or worse player $18 million/year over 4 seasons to come here, even if it costs the No. 7 pick.

[aim2please]

I'd love it even more if we could swap out Aldrich for Tyler Zeller's unguaranteed deal for 2017-18.

Part of this trade for Boston would be to clear additional cap space for max contract (Hayward or Griffin), that's why Wolves are such a good trade partner from Boston's perspective. Lotto pick + cap space.

I think C's would be willing to give you guys your 2nd rounder back (#37), maybe even LAC 1st (lotto protected) if that changes anything value-wise.

[shrink]

I'd love it even more if we could swap out Aldrich for Tyler Zeller's unguaranteed deal for 2017-18.

Part of this trade for Boston would be to clear additional cap space for max contract (Hayward or Griffin), that's why Wolves are such a good trade partner from Boston's perspective. Lotto pick + cap space.

I think C's would be willing to give you guys your 2nd rounder back (#37), maybe even LAC 1st (lotto protected) if that changes anything value-wise.

I don't think that flips the results of the poll.

Maybe the 2019 MEM 1st