2017 NBA DRAFT Part 3

[Steve210]

Well Horst will be officially on the clock tonight, I'm real curious if we just stay put and see who falls to us at 17 or will we be active and move some of our dead weight like a Henson or Mirza for example? Tonight should be interesting let's see what happens?

[M-C-G]

. I like Mitchell, but there are too many questions with his lack of height for a 2, inability to run a team for a 1, his unbridled aggressiveness, and a shot that's only decent. Would only take him if he falls, not give up something extra to get him.

Getting him to be less aggressive and take less contested shots, seems like the most correctable issues I can think of, especially if it is a high character, hard working kid, which MItchell seems to be. He'd also have the luxury of not having to run a team at the 1 in our system. I think he is a guy that might need the right scenario to be a success in the NBA, but think we are the perfect fit for him and he is the perfect fit for us.

One area that Mitchell made significant strides in as a sophomore was as a perimeter shooter, more than tripling the amount of 3-pointers he made as a sophomore (even accounting for minutes played) while seeing his percentage rise from 25 to 35%. His mechanics are sound, with great balance, footwork and rise on both his pull-up and spot-up jumper, and he seems to have the potential to continue to improve in this area, especially when asked to play a more compact offensive role, with better shooters and spacing around him. Mitchell is nevertheless a shot-maker who impresses you with his ability to elevate sharply off the ground and create space from opponents off of crossovers, step-backs and hang-dribbles. He also catches and shoots on the hop in a fluid motion, and hit a strong 81% of his free throws as a sophomore. With that said, Mitchell was a very streaky shooter in his time in college, due to his less than stellar shot-selection. He has a tendency to settle for tough, contested pull-ups with a hand in his face a lot more frequently than you might hope, partially due to his lack of polish as a slasher, but also because of his average decision making skills. While he can make some of these attempts, at times in highlight reel fashion, this is a difficult way to make a living and something that dragged down his overall offensive efficiency significantly all season. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Donovan-Mitchell-84680/ ©DraftExpress

[fansinceforever]

Also want Ntilikina!

I'm pretty excited for tonight! I'm going to choose a positive thought today!

[HurricaneKid]

I kind of LOVE the idea of moving up. I'd gladly give up a shot at BAM! and a future 1st for DSJ and maybe even Ntilikina. I don't much like the options at 17 and those guys are CLEARLY a level above IMO.

I forgot how much I love this part of the NBA season. So much intrigue and hope for so many teams. In the end, none of it matters, the Warriors are going to walk through the league for several years but watching the foundations being built for half the league seems wildly important in basketball moreso than football, baseball, etc.

[Bernman]

. I like Mitchell, but there are too many questions with his lack of height for a 2, inability to run a team for a 1, his unbridled aggressiveness, and a shot that's only decent. Would only take him if he falls, not give up something extra to get him.

Getting him to be less aggressive and take less contested shots, seems like the most correctable issues I can think of, especially if it is a high character, hard working kid, which MItchell seems to be. He'd also have the luxury of not having to run a team at the 1 in our system. I think he is a guy that might need the right scenario to be a success in the NBA, but think we are the perfect fit for him and he is the perfect fit for us.

One area that Mitchell made significant strides in as a sophomore was as a perimeter shooter, more than tripling the amount of 3-pointers he made as a sophomore (even accounting for minutes played) while seeing his percentage rise from 25 to 35%. His mechanics are sound, with great balance, footwork and rise on both his pull-up and spot-up jumper, and he seems to have the potential to continue to improve in this area, especially when asked to play a more compact offensive role, with better shooters and spacing around him. Mitchell is nevertheless a shot-maker who impresses you with his ability to elevate sharply off the ground and create space from opponents off of crossovers, step-backs and hang-dribbles. He also catches and shoots on the hop in a fluid motion, and hit a strong 81% of his free throws as a sophomore. With that said, Mitchell was a very streaky shooter in his time in college, due to his less than stellar shot-selection. He has a tendency to settle for tough, contested pull-ups with a hand in his face a lot more frequently than you might hope, partially due to his lack of polish as a slasher, but also because of his average decision making skills. While he can make some of these attempts, at times in highlight reel fashion, this is a difficult way to make a living and something that dragged down his overall offensive efficiency significantly all season. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Donovan-Mitchell-84680/ ©DraftExpress

Many guys their whole career you never switch off their ego/hero complex, to the detriment of their own team. If you have that mindset, you better be exceptionally gifted physically and as a scorer, which he is not. He'd need to dial it down significantly in the pros and not get in Giannis' and other's ways. Sometimes you can harness it, sometimes you can't. So I do consider it a significant cause for pause, and I certainly don't consider him a guy to move up for, conceding another 1st rd pick or good prospect/player in the process. He'd need to fall for me.

[Badgerlander]

Guys I would take ahead of Bam that could potentially be there at #17

Patton
Leaf
Wilson
Pasenicks
Derrick White
and possibly Jordan Bell

[Ron Swanson]

Do not want Patton. All the "motor" concerns that people have for Jarrett Allen are the ones that I have for Patton.

[skones]

Did you see KAT do it, AD?
No green lights for bigs in Kentucky...

Towns shot 80%+ from the line and had a history of three point shooting coming in, so he definitely did.

You're also using two prospects considered head and shoulders above everyone else in their class. You can't simply draw a parallel like that because they went to Kentucky. I don't see Willie Cauley Stein launching triples.

Lol he was 2/8 in his college career

And was a known as a shooter throughout his prep career......

[Fotis St]

After all the hype ... and BAM moving way up ... I want to trade down now

Trade down with Portland .... #17,48 for #20,26 ..............( Semi Ojeleye Hartenstein )
Trade down with Lakers ... #17 for #27,28 ................(Derrick White/Frank Jackson, Hartenstein)
Trade down with Magic ... #17,48 for #25,33,36 ...........(Derrick White/Ike,Frank Jackson/Bell,Hartenstein)

Zero confidence we can pull any of this ... C'mon Horst

[VooDoo7]

Guys I would take ahead of Bam that could potentially be there at #17

Patton
Leaf
Wilson
Pasenicks
Derrick White
and possibly Jordan Bell

I love Pasecniks. I actually like him more than Hartenstein. Him, Bam and Mitchell have been my favorites leading up to this draft.

[M-C-G]

Many guys their whole career you never switch off their ego/hero complex, to the detrim.

By all accounts I can find, this dude is high character, coachable and plays with passion and intensity. I listened to an interview where Coach P asked him to take the reigns and score/shoot more, because he needed someone to step into that role. I guess I just don't share this particular concern, I don't get a Brandon Knight vibe at all on this guy.

Mitchell's intangibles are very attractive as well, and will likely give NBA teams confidence in his ability to continue to improve and reach his full potential. The strides he's made with his shooting mechanics over the past few years is a testament to the time he's put in working on his game. He's by all accounts a high character and very well spoken individual with a strong background, something that has reportedly shined through in private interviews he's conducted, according to NBA teams we've spoken with. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Donovan-Mitchell-84680/ ©DraftExpress

[emunney]

Guys I would take ahead of Bam that could potentially be there at #17

Patton
Leaf
Wilson
Pasenicks
Derrick White
and possibly Jordan Bell

Bradley, Anigbogu, Hartenstein, Anunoby, Lydon, Bolden, Hart, Brooks, Kuzma...

[Badgerlander]

Guys I would take ahead of Bam that could potentially be there at #17

Patton
Leaf
Wilson
Pasenicks
Derrick White
and possibly Jordan Bell

I love Pasecniks. I actually like him more than Hartenstein. Him, Bam and Mitchell have been my favorites leading up to this draft.

Offensively his advanced stats are purdy. To me he moves like Porzingis but with a slow jumper

[Badgerlander]

Guys I would take ahead of Bam that could potentially be there at #17

Patton
Leaf
Wilson
Pasenicks
Derrick White
and possibly Jordan Bell

Bradley, Anigbogu, Hartenstein, Anunoby, Lydon, Bolden, Hart, Brooks, Kuzma...

I have Hart rated higher than Bam too. I could be talked into Bolden pretty easily. I dont get the Hartenstein love, looks like Mason Plumlee to me.

[M-C-G]

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[Badgerlander]

Read on Twitter

[Matches Malone]

I hope all this crazy rumor talk doesn't fizzle out and nothing materializes like most trade deadline rumors we hear and nothing happens.

[Kerb Hohl]

Monk is a better shooter and I'm sure I'm missing a handful of others but I also wonder why Koenig isn't considered. He fits today's NBA way better than a lot of guys that will get drafted tonight. It's been my opinion for a while that he would stick for several years.

Not fast, can't jump, not an elite ball handler.

Has 2 moves: Heso pull up, step back jumper.

See ya in Europe

There is a debate that can be had about the quickness because in terms of combine numbers he's just as good as the other top-flight guards in the draft...but I agree to an extent that in-game speed may not really match that.

I dunno it just seems like anyone that can shoot like he can and has some size may fit on a team somewhere. Maybe his liabilities will be great enough that it's not worth it.

[Ron Swanson]

I'm a bit surprised that Koenig isn't at least getting some late 2nd-round discussion. I think he has a better chance at being a pro than Nigel.

[Jafari]

Monk is a better shooter and I'm sure I'm missing a handful of others but I also wonder why Koenig isn't considered. He fits today's NBA way better than a lot of guys that will get drafted tonight. It's been my opinion for a while that he would stick for several years.

Not fast, can't jump, not an elite ball handler.

Has 2 moves: Heso pull up, step back jumper.

See ya in Europe

There is a debate that can be had about the quickness because in terms of combine numbers he's just as good as the other top-flight guards in the draft...but I agree to an extent that in-game speed may not really match that.

I dunno it just seems like anyone that can shoot like he can and has some size may fit on a team somewhere. Maybe his liabilities will be great enough that it's not worth it.

To your point, footspeed and speed with the basketball are two different things. Not to mention he would be undersized to play the 2. As much as I would like to see another Badger be successful in the NBA, I just don't think it would be Bronson. Hope he proves me wrong