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Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II

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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#741 » by Wolfgang630 » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:18 pm

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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#742 » by GONYK » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:19 pm

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If he's doing that it's stupid and petty

Edit: which is par for the course with him


Nah. If KP won't pick up the phone, you gotta send messages in other ways.


KP is not obligated to pick up the phone. It's the off-season. If pjax wants to mend the relationship this isn't a step in the right direction


If your boss wants to talk to you, you are obligated to pick up the phone. Otherwise, there may be consequences.

That is pretty cut and dry across every industry.
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#743 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:19 pm

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GONYK wrote:Do any of you guys watch Shark Tank?

Sometimes, a person will come on and their valuation/demands are pretty nuts, and it is clear that they don't want to make a deal. They are just there for the massive publicity. Cuban calls them "Shark Tank Gold Diggers"

I think that is what Phil is doing here.


what does this publicity accomplish ? i'm pretty sure he got enough yesterday anyway.and it's till going on today. there seems to be a lot of back and forth offering just for publicity.


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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#744 » by NYs Finest » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:20 pm

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Yankeeknickfan wrote:This draft is overrated. I don't want three players from it


That's what I'm saying, but these guys go crazy whenever they hear draft pick. It's amazing, when you talk about Philly and Fultz and Simmons it's like "you're basing your future on guys who never stepped on the court", but now we are rumored to get draft picks and everyone want to base their future on guys who never stepped on the court. It's hilarious.

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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#745 » by JohnStarksTheDunk » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:20 pm

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Phil's tryna take everything :lol:


Knicks are not desperate to trade KP. Phil is doing the right thing here in asking for everything.
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#746 » by GONYK » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:20 pm

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GONYK wrote:Do any of you guys watch Shark Tank?

Sometimes, a person will come on and their valuation/demands are pretty nuts, and it is clear that they don't want to make a deal. They are just there for the massive publicity. Cuban calls them "Shark Tank Gold Diggers"

I think that is what Phil is doing here.


what does this publicity accomplish ? i'm pretty sure he got enough yesterday anyway.and it's till going on today. there seems to be a lot of back and forth offering just for publicity.


Feed Phil's ego


No, it is to tame KP's
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#747 » by NYKnicksTAPE » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:20 pm

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that's what it would have to take to get KP

we'd have the 3rd pick, Brown, our 8th pick, the 2018 BK pick, and our own 2018 pick

if Ainge can't do that then no deal
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#748 » by god shammgod » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:21 pm

GONYK wrote:
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GONYK wrote:Do any of you guys watch Shark Tank?

Sometimes, a person will come on and their valuation/demands are pretty nuts, and it is clear that they don't want to make a deal. They are just there for the massive publicity. Cuban calls them "Shark Tank Gold Diggers"

I think that is what Phil is doing here.


what does this publicity accomplish ? i'm pretty sure he got enough yesterday anyway.and it's till going on today. there seems to be a lot of back and forth offering just for publicity.


It's not for publicity in Phil's case. It is to flex on KP.


that message has been sent. he's still negotiating. also, i reject the idea that he wouldn't be better off in a lot of places. phil is scaring him by threatening to send him to a better franchise who was just in the ecf ? he's unhappy with how things are being run here. after he thinks about he'll probably realize it was a favor.
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#749 » by GONYK » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:23 pm

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what does this publicity accomplish ? i'm pretty sure he got enough yesterday anyway.and it's till going on today. there seems to be a lot of back and forth offering just for publicity.


It's not for publicity in Phil's case. It is to flex on KP.


that message has been sent. he's still negotiating. also, i reject the idea that he wouldn't be better off in a lot of places. phil is scaring him by threatening to send him to a better franchise who was just in the ecf ? he's unhappy with how things are being run here. after he thinks about he'll probably realize it was a favor.


Whether or not Phil is beefing with KP, Phil should be listening if another team wants to unload their war chest for KP.

What team in the league could reasonably afford the price that Phil is asking?
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#750 » by NYKnicksTAPE » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:24 pm

I agree with Shamm. What would be the downside for KP in being sent to Boston? We're not negotiating with Sacramento or some place like that.

He'd be in a stable, winning environment with a good culture and pretty much zero drama while also getting to play for Brad Stevens. He'd also be able to get the Designated Vet Extension from Boston whenever he qualified for it.
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#751 » by blueNorange » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:24 pm

god shammgod wrote:
GONYK wrote:Do any of you guys watch Shark Tank?

Sometimes, a person will come on and their valuation/demands are pretty nuts, and it is clear that they don't want to make a deal. They are just there for the massive publicity. Cuban calls them "Shark Tank Gold Diggers"

I think that is what Phil is doing here.


what does this publicity accomplish ? i'm pretty sure he got enough yesterday anyway.and it's till going on today. there seems to be a lot of back and forth offering just for publicity.

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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#752 » by DaKnicksAreBack » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:25 pm

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Nah. If KP won't pick up the phone, you gotta send messages in other ways.


KP is not obligated to pick up the phone. It's the off-season. If pjax wants to mend the relationship this isn't a step in the right direction


If your boss wants to talk to you, you are obligated to pick up the phone. Otherwise, there may be consequences.

That is pretty cut and dry across every industry.


KP may be being a bitch, but Pjax is still handling the situation the wrong way (like he has with everything) if he wants to remedy the problem. Maybe he doesn't and he just wants to trade him, which I would say is smart...if we can get 2 high lotto picks and maybe another player or pick coming back.
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#753 » by spaceballer » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:25 pm

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NYKnicksTAPE wrote:Yo, if we get the 3rd pick, Brown, keep our 8th, and get the 2018 BK pick then why would people be mad at that? Could u realistically do much better than that for KP?


Except its highly unlikely that any of those prospects will ever become as good as KP. The Knicks should just build around him. Value wise its there if Phil can get Ainge to give up all of his best assets (which would include the Brooklyn picks and the Kings/Sixers pick), but you're better off with KP.

We know that, but we don't control Phil or Dolan. They have both done moronic things in the past. I wouldn't put this idiocy past them. As a matter of fact, the skipped exit meeting issue is right up Dolan's alley and pushes all his buttons, and I wouldn't have put trading KP over that petty insult beyond Dolan even without Phil. So we sure as hell aren't expecting Dolan to be the brake here on Phil. If anything, Phil was hired to be a moderating influence to stop Dolan from pulling this sort of crap.
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#754 » by NYKnicksFTW » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:25 pm

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that's what it would have to take to get KP

we'd have the 3rd pick, Brown, our 8th pick, the 2018 BK pick, and our own 2018 pick

if Ainge can't do that then no deal



Agreed.


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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#755 » by JohnStarksTheDunk » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:25 pm

GONYK wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
GONYK wrote:Do any of you guys watch Shark Tank?

Sometimes, a person will come on and their valuation/demands are pretty nuts, and it is clear that they don't want to make a deal. They are just there for the massive publicity. Cuban calls them "Shark Tank Gold Diggers"

I think that is what Phil is doing here.


what does this publicity accomplish ? i'm pretty sure he got enough yesterday anyway.and it's till going on today. there seems to be a lot of back and forth offering just for publicity.


It's not for publicity in Phil's case. It is to flex on KP.


In addition to letting him know that no one on this team is untouchable, the other side is that these negotiations are showing how much we actually value KP. Anyone think that KP had ever imagined being worth a Melo-like haul?
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#756 » by GettinitDone » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:25 pm

GONYK wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
GONYK wrote:Do any of you guys watch Shark Tank?

Sometimes, a person will come on and their valuation/demands are pretty nuts, and it is clear that they don't want to make a deal. They are just there for the massive publicity. Cuban calls them "Shark Tank Gold Diggers"

I think that is what Phil is doing here.


what does this publicity accomplish ? i'm pretty sure he got enough yesterday anyway.and it's till going on today. there seems to be a lot of back and forth offering just for publicity.


It's not for publicity in Phil's case. It is to flex on KP.


In his first year with Lakers Phil asked Jerry West to trade Kobe for Suns' Jason Kidd and Shawn Marion, which was almost done.

But Kobe (2 time all star then) was a better player at that stage than KP is now, and clearly Kidd (wasn't his Nets MVP caliber form yet) and Marion (rookie) don't compare to Boston's current lottery picks, Jaylen Brown, super role player in Jae Crowder.

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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#757 » by bklynstoops » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:26 pm

god shammgod wrote:
GONYK wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
what does this publicity accomplish ? i'm pretty sure he got enough yesterday anyway.and it's till going on today. there seems to be a lot of back and forth offering just for publicity.


It's not for publicity in Phil's case. It is to flex on KP.


that message has been sent. he's still negotiating. also, i reject the idea that he wouldn't be better off in a lot of places. phil is scaring him by threatening to send him to a better franchise who was just in the ecf ? he's unhappy with how things are being run here. after he thinks about he'll probably realize it was a favor.


regardless of how and why this started, if BOS is even remotely thinking about giving you #3, next year's BK pick, Brown, Crowder, you wouldn't follow that trail? I'd definitely think about it, considering your 2nd year player is trying to flex what little leverage he has to get you fired.
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#758 » by NOOB77 » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:26 pm

GONYK wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
GONYK wrote:Do any of you guys watch Shark Tank?

Sometimes, a person will come on and their valuation/demands are pretty nuts, and it is clear that they don't want to make a deal. They are just there for the massive publicity. Cuban calls them "Shark Tank Gold Diggers"

I think that is what Phil is doing here.


what does this publicity accomplish ? i'm pretty sure he got enough yesterday anyway.and it's till going on today. there seems to be a lot of back and forth offering just for publicity.


It's not for publicity in Phil's case. It is to flex on KP.



flex on what? KP probably happy to be out of this situation. You would be doing him a favor.
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#759 » by jcsunsfan » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:26 pm

OK. Just interested in your opinion. Is all the trade KP stuff just Phil playing his notorious mind games to get Porzingis to call him? He has been incommunicado all off season hasn't he.
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Re: Phil can GTFO now (he's wiling to deal KP) part II 

Post#760 » by Rasho Brezec » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:26 pm

This is karma. We must have all been nazis in our past lives.
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