We're in asset accumulation mode....i don't even think we truly know what we have at this point...so unless it's a no brainer, or close to, let's just stay the course and revisit these discussions once we have more answers.
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SkinnyOMiller wrote:sunsbum wrote:SkinnyOMiller wrote:
Warren has very little actual value. If the Suns put him on the trade block they'd be lucky to get a late 1st rounder back for him. He's a decent player, probably a pretty nice bench player on a contender, a guy who can come in and score some buckets for you but nothing more. Not a great defender, lacks an outside shot, he's very limited in today's NBA game.
The Kings could get similar players from other teams for far less compensation.
If we were talking about the Suns and they had the #5 and #10 picks in the draft and some other team's fan proposed trading those picks for the #4 pick and a marginal role player, you know you'd ridicule them for it.
What the he'll are you talking about. *
Exactly what I said. Warren doesn't have much overall value, less than both Morris twins had who in spite of being complete knuckleheads, fit into the modern NBA game very well.
Warren is not a good defender and has limited shooting range, he is a solid role player. He holds more value to Phoenix than anyone else and there's no way any team is giving up a Top 10 pick for him. You can throw out all the ad hominem's you like, still won't change that. If he was this super valuable prospect, the Suns wouldn't be looking at replacing him with guys like Jackson and Tatum.
He's a decent player on a bad team but I don't really see him having much of a role on this team when/if they actually become competitive that doesn't involve him coming off the bench.
ATTL wrote:If the suns grade the 4th pick for aldrisge or love I am denouncing my Suns fandom.
JMac1 wrote:And he is Ball's kryptonite....
Damkac wrote:It's incredible how underrated Warren is here.
ATTL wrote:If the suns grade the 4th pick for aldrisge or love I am denouncing my Suns fandom.
sunsbum wrote:SkinnyOMiller wrote:sunsbum wrote:
What the he'll are you talking about. *
Exactly what I said. Warren doesn't have much overall value, less than both Morris twins had who in spite of being complete knuckleheads, fit into the modern NBA game very well.
Warren is not a good defender and has limited shooting range, he is a solid role player. He holds more value to Phoenix than anyone else and there's no way any team is giving up a Top 10 pick for him. You can throw out all the ad hominem's you like, still won't change that. If he was this super valuable prospect, the Suns wouldn't be looking at replacing him with guys like Jackson and Tatum.
He's a decent player on a bad team but I don't really see him having much of a role on this team when/if they actually become competitive that doesn't involve him coming off the bench.
You said late round pick, now you're saying top ten. KO
ATTL wrote:If the suns grade the 4th pick for aldrisge or love I am denouncing my Suns fandom.
G35 wrote:He may run a great offense but I wouldn't choose him over Amare to start a team.
SkinnyOMiller wrote:sunsbum wrote:SkinnyOMiller wrote:
Warren has very little actual value. If the Suns put him on the trade block they'd be lucky to get a late 1st rounder back for him. He's a decent player, probably a pretty nice bench player on a contender, a guy who can come in and score some buckets for you but nothing more. Not a great defender, lacks an outside shot, he's very limited in today's NBA game.
The Kings could get similar players from other teams for far less compensation.
If we were talking about the Suns and they had the #5 and #10 picks in the draft and some other team's fan proposed trading those picks for the #4 pick and a marginal role player, you know you'd ridicule them for it.
What the he'll are you talking about. *
Exactly what I said. Warren doesn't have much overall value, less than both Morris twins had who in spite of being complete knuckleheads, fit into the modern NBA game very well.
Warren is not a good defender and has limited shooting range, he is a solid role player. He holds more value to Phoenix than anyone else and there's no way any team is giving up a Top 10 pick for him. You can throw out all the ad hominem's you like, still won't change that. If he was this super valuable prospect, the Suns wouldn't be looking at replacing him with guys like Jackson and Tatum.
He's a decent player on a bad team but I don't really see him having much of a role on this team when/if they actually become competitive that doesn't involve him coming off the bench.
ball had a foot injury to be fairWeekapaugGroove wrote:JMac1 wrote:And he is Ball's kryptonite....
Thats the funnest side aspect of picking fox. If he would just destroy ball for the next decade that would be delightful.
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Villalobos wrote:DarkHawk wrote:Listening to that radio show, I missed part of it but it almost sounded like they think we'd take Fox if Jackson isn't there.
I wish there were a projectile vomiting smiley
GoranTragic wrote:Jackson/Fox and call it a draft night
Damkac wrote:It's incredible how underrated Warren is here.
Zelaznyrules wrote:SkinnyOMiller wrote:sunsbum wrote:
What the he'll are you talking about. *
Exactly what I said. Warren doesn't have much overall value, less than both Morris twins had who in spite of being complete knuckleheads, fit into the modern NBA game very well.
Warren is not a good defender and has limited shooting range, he is a solid role player. He holds more value to Phoenix than anyone else and there's no way any team is giving up a Top 10 pick for him. You can throw out all the ad hominem's you like, still won't change that. If he was this super valuable prospect, the Suns wouldn't be looking at replacing him with guys like Jackson and Tatum.
He's a decent player on a bad team but I don't really see him having much of a role on this team when/if they actually become competitive that doesn't involve him coming off the bench.
Well, we all have our own opinions but I think you're way off on Warren as a player if not as a trade chip. He may not be a star in the making but he certainly isn't what I think of when I think of "marginal role player" as you described him. I think he's a plus starter, even on a good team. Admittedly, I am a homer but I don't think it requires an ounce of homerism to rate him that way. Healthy, he was arguably our best player last season. I don't think he has the ceiling of a Booker or Chriss but I think he's already playing better than your typical 10 pick (even if he doesn't have trade value equal to that on draft day) and he's still improving.
Damkac wrote:It's incredible how underrated Warren is here.
Zelaznyrules wrote:SkinnyOMiller wrote:sunsbum wrote:
What the he'll are you talking about. *
Exactly what I said. Warren doesn't have much overall value, less than both Morris twins had who in spite of being complete knuckleheads, fit into the modern NBA game very well.
Warren is not a good defender and has limited shooting range, he is a solid role player. He holds more value to Phoenix than anyone else and there's no way any team is giving up a Top 10 pick for him. You can throw out all the ad hominem's you like, still won't change that. If he was this super valuable prospect, the Suns wouldn't be looking at replacing him with guys like Jackson and Tatum.
He's a decent player on a bad team but I don't really see him having much of a role on this team when/if they actually become competitive that doesn't involve him coming off the bench.
Well, we all have our own opinions but I think you're way off on Warren as a player if not as a trade chip. He may not be a star in the making but he certainly isn't what I think of when I think of "marginal role player" as you described him. I think he's a plus starter, even on a good team. Admittedly, I am a homer but I don't think it requires an ounce of homerism to rate him that way. Healthy, he was arguably our best player last season. I don't think he has the ceiling of a Booker or Chriss but I think he's already playing better than your typical 10 pick (even if he doesn't have trade value equal to that on draft day) and he's still improving.