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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2241 » by eagereyez » Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:42 am

Ericb5 wrote:
eagereyez wrote:I'd honestly rather keep our 2nds and use them on the upperclassmen SGs in this draft. I don't think Green will stay with us long term, at least not without a significant payday.


Long term is a long time. We would have him for at least one year, and maybe 2 if he enjoys our team.

Second round picks are total crap shoots. We could make selections with every one of our second round picks and the chances would be stacked against us that ANY of them ever become as good as Green is now.


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If that's all it takes to get him then sure, but I think the Spurs would ask for more.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2242 » by the_process » Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:48 am

If he's still there at 36, which I doubt even though he's a senior... Sindarius Thornwell would look real nice on this squad. And I'm willing to bet he's this year's Malcolm Brogdon. Probably better considering he plays defense.

Still, Danny Green would help this team a lot next year I think.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2243 » by Chris76 » Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:20 am

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spikeslovechild wrote:Because it's a binary equation. You are either in it to win it or you are wasting everyone time. Those kids aren't fully developed sure but they are on the rookie scale. Signing talent like Lowry, Hayward, etc for four years matches up almost perfectly to when we will have to start paying our young players.

This wait let the things percolate is complete BS that doesn't hold up to any scrutiny at all. We won't be picking at the bottom of the draft next year and every year we sit on cap space is a wasted year on Simmons, Fultz, Saric, and Embiids rookie deals. If I have your reasoning for waiting wrong fine tell me explain the logic of it.


Rookies don't win championships, so no stars are signing here until they are more proven. Given time and some playoff seasoning and that changes. And they should certainly go out and add pieces to put this team in the playoff picture. I realize they're on the rookie scale clock now, but they've staggered the contracts so they will still have shots at max level guys going forward. Plus if Fultz and Simmons and Embiid are all max level guys then the team is set anyway.
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The sixers remind me of the Clippers, who without some unfortunate injuries are a good playoff team.

Fultz........Chris Paul
TLC..........Jamal Crawford
Covington..Luc mbah a moute
Simmons...Blake Griffin
Embiid.....Deandre Jordan

The Sixers are a younger version of the Clippers. They could examine the Clippers to see what works and what doesn't. Although the players all have different talents, this comparison can give some incite to making further moves. Also, the sixers have some bench players that can be inserted in the rotation to take advantage of mismatches.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2244 » by PhilasFinest » Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:39 am

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the_process wrote:
spikeslovechild wrote:Because it's a binary equation. You are either in it to win it or you are wasting everyone time. Those kids aren't fully developed sure but they are on the rookie scale. Signing talent like Lowry, Hayward, etc for four years matches up almost perfectly to when we will have to start paying our young players.

This wait let the things percolate is complete BS that doesn't hold up to any scrutiny at all. We won't be picking at the bottom of the draft next year and every year we sit on cap space is a wasted year on Simmons, Fultz, Saric, and Embiids rookie deals. If I have your reasoning for waiting wrong fine tell me explain the logic of it.


Rookies don't win championships, so no stars are signing here until they are more proven. Given time and some playoff seasoning and that changes. And they should certainly go out and add pieces to put this team in the playoff picture. I realize they're on the rookie scale clock now, but they've staggered the contracts so they will still have shots at max level guys going forward. Plus if Fultz and Simmons and Embiid are all max level guys then the team is set anyway.
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The sixers remind me of the Clippers, who without some unfortunate injuries are a good playoff team.

Fultz........Chris Paul
TLC..........Jamal Crawford
Covington..Luc mbah a moute
Simmons...Blake Griffin
Embiid.....Deandre Jordan

The Sixers are a younger version of the Clippers. They could examine the Clippers to see what works and what doesn't. Although the players all have different talents, this comparison can give some incite to making further moves. Also, the sixers have some bench players that can be inserted in the rotation to take advantage of mismatches.


those are some of the worst player comparisons I've ever seen. and I mean, EVER.
SparksFly87 wrote:Towns got boat feet and gets off the ground very slow with a lack of explosiveness . He is a rich mans Henry Sims to me. No thanks .
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2245 » by smittybanton » Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:42 pm

The NBA has informed teams the new cap is expected to be at $99 million for the 17-18 season.

The most recent projection in April was at $101 million.

Before that lowered projection, it was at $103 million and was at one time projected to be as high as $108 million.


Puts other teams under more pressure. Reduces their options. Makes our abundance of capspace more valuable.
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Post#2246 » by smittybanton » Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:49 pm

The Clippers have been calling teams that have picks in the middle of the second round in an effort to get back into the draft, according to NBA executive who spoke to Brad Turner of The Los Angeles Times. Los Angeles has $3.27MM left to spend in the 2016/17 league year if the club wants to buy a pick.


Count on it.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2247 » by Chris76 » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:20 pm

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Chris76 wrote:
the_process wrote:
Rookies don't win championships, so no stars are signing here until they are more proven. Given time and some playoff seasoning and that changes. And they should certainly go out and add pieces to put this team in the playoff picture. I realize they're on the rookie scale clock now, but they've staggered the contracts so they will still have shots at max level guys going forward. Plus if Fultz and Simmons and Embiid are all max level guys then the team is set anyway.
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The sixers remind me of the Clippers, who without some unfortunate injuries are a good playoff team.

Fultz........Chris Paul
TLC..........Jamal Crawford
Covington..Luc mbah a moute
Simmons...Blake Griffin
Embiid.....Deandre Jordan

The Sixers are a younger version of the Clippers. They could examine the Clippers to see what works and what doesn't. Although the players all have different talents, this comparison can give some incite to making further moves. Also, the sixers have some bench players that can be inserted in the rotation to take advantage of mismatches.


those are some of the worst player comparisons I've ever seen. and I mean, EVER.


I was referring to the roles of each player. The Clippers main 3 are PG, PF, and C, same as the Sixers.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2248 » by the_process » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:47 pm

smittybanton wrote:
The Clippers have been calling teams that have picks in the middle of the second round in an effort to get back into the draft, according to NBA executive who spoke to Brad Turner of The Los Angeles Times. Los Angeles has $3.27MM left to spend in the 2016/17 league year if the club wants to buy a pick.


Count on it.



The Sixers are already at the cash limit, so they can't sell picks. I don't think BC is going to take 3 stashes, and they still have a ton of future 2nds. So figure he takes two or three and moves up. 36 and 39 for 2021 lotto protected LAC 1st?
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2249 » by smittybanton » Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:06 pm

the_process wrote:
smittybanton wrote:
The Clippers have been calling teams that have picks in the middle of the second round in an effort to get back into the draft, according to NBA executive who spoke to Brad Turner of The Los Angeles Times. Los Angeles has $3.27MM left to spend in the 2016/17 league year if the club wants to buy a pick.


Count on it.



The Sixers are already at the cash limit, so they can't sell picks. I don't think BC is going to take 3 stashes, and they still have a ton of future 2nds. So figure he takes two or three and moves up. 36 and 39 for 2021 lotto protected LAC 1st?



I'd like that.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2250 » by fuzzy1 » Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:12 pm

Just curious, what are your thoughts on what it'll take to grab Okafor?

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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2251 » by PhilasFinest » Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:25 pm

fuzzy1 wrote:Just curious, what are your thoughts on what it'll take to grab Okafor?

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I think some type of 1st rounder and/or a veteran shooter would get the deal done.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2252 » by NYSixersFan » Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:27 pm

I'd look at Allen Crabbe.....only 2 years left on the contract
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2253 » by 51X3RF4N » Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:27 pm

15 and Leonard for Okafor? Do you do that?

I think I do.

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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2254 » by PhilasFinest » Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:41 pm

The Blazers got Nurkic and he played outstanding basketball for them. I don't think they are in the market for Okafor anymore, unless its to pawn off that AWFUL Crabbe contract which I want no part of.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2255 » by PhilasFinest » Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:42 pm

NYSixersFan wrote:I'd look at Allen Crabbe.....only 2 years left on the contract


Actually 3 years. The 3rd year is a 18.5M Player Option, which I cannot see him declining considering he's worst a hell of a lot less.
SparksFly87 wrote:Towns got boat feet and gets off the ground very slow with a lack of explosiveness . He is a rich mans Henry Sims to me. No thanks .
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2256 » by BullyKing » Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:10 pm

NYSixersFan wrote:I'd look at Allen Crabbe.....only 2 years left on the contract


Lol, of course you would.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2257 » by NYSixersFan » Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:18 pm

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NYSixersFan wrote:I'd look at Allen Crabbe.....only 2 years left on the contract


Lol, of course you would.



Yea; why would we have any interest in a 6"6' SG; who's 25 and shot 44% from 3
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2258 » by XtremeDunkz » Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:19 pm

NYSixersFan wrote:
BullyKing wrote:
NYSixersFan wrote:I'd look at Allen Crabbe.....only 2 years left on the contract


Lol, of course you would.



Yea; why would we have any interest in a 6"6' SG; who's 25 and shot 44% from 3


Terrible contract with a 15% trade kicker.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2259 » by NYSixersFan » Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:23 pm

PhilasFinest wrote:
NYSixersFan wrote:I'd look at Allen Crabbe.....only 2 years left on the contract


Actually 3 years. The 3rd year is a 18.5M Player Option, which I cannot see him declining considering he's worst a hell of a lot less.


18.5 mil per year is not a lot in today's NBA on a 2-3 year deal.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#2260 » by PhilasFinest » Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:56 pm

NYSixersFan wrote:
PhilasFinest wrote:
NYSixersFan wrote:I'd look at Allen Crabbe.....only 2 years left on the contract


Actually 3 years. The 3rd year is a 18.5M Player Option, which I cannot see him declining considering he's worst a hell of a lot less.


18.5 mil per year is not a lot in today's NBA on a 2-3 year deal.


When the cap is declining due to the TV deal money going away, it will be for a 8th-9th man who's not all that good at basketball.

Id rather spend that money on a good basketball player.
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