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TheStig wrote:Jcool0 wrote:TheStig wrote:If Lavine is back and playing well, he's going to get maxed. I don't want to max out Lavine. Lavine at his best won't lead us anywhere.
Probably why a smart GM traded him and his bust for our all star.
An all star who wont lead Minnesota anywhere....
They'll be a playoff team. And they have a lot of potential. They just gotta play D.
HomoSapien wrote:nike1 wrote:so now i've chilled out a bit.
i still don't like this trade at all.
but havent seen what Lauri Markkanen can do.
lavine/dunn ive always liked, but would have preferred wiggins & keeping the 16th pick.
good lucky jimmy, will be tuning into a few twolves games next season
Yeah, I mean best case scenario is:
Markannen is a star.
Dunn is a star.
LaVine is healthy and a star.
If all three of those things happen it might seem like a great return but it'll always be a bad trade since we should've gotten more/given up less.
umfan83 wrote:BullsFTW wrote:I'm not a fan of the trade. However, it's possible we couldn't have gotten a better offer. I'm glad we chose to rebuild. We weren't going to sign big time free agents.
That's on GarPax for not getting a better offer. There is no way a good GM doesn't get a better offer. Or maybe GarPax is so daft at evaluating talent that they thought this was a great offer. Either way, they got roasted on this trade.
People saying that they had to trade Jimmy now - no they didn't. He could have gotten similar if not better value at the deadline
jc23 wrote:its super official, the commish just announced the trade. Im excited in a way, im sure it will pass after a few weeks of watching terrible basketball.
HomoSapien wrote:I'm not even sure why people think that Minny has no shot at a title. Butler is a borderline franchise player, Thibs is a GREAT coach, and KAT and Wiggins have insane potential. They also have really good quality role players in Rubio and Dieng. I wouldn't be surprised if they add someone like Taj Gibson.
That team has so much going for them. I would easily trade places with them, and think they have one of the brightest futures in the league.
chrispatrick wrote:I never realized how bad LaVine's on/off stats have been. Dunn clearly can't play. This truly is Butler for a young Channing Frye.
chrispatrick wrote:I never realized how bad LaVine's on/off stats have been. Dunn clearly can't play. This truly is Butler for a young Channing Frye.
Rerisen wrote:HomoSapien wrote:I'm not even sure why people think that Minny has no shot at a title. Butler is a borderline franchise player, Thibs is a GREAT coach, and KAT and Wiggins have insane potential. They also have really good quality role players in Rubio and Dieng. I wouldn't be surprised if they add someone like Taj Gibson.
That team has so much going for them. I would easily trade places with them, and think they have one of the brightest futures in the league.
Indeed, if out of this trade, the Bulls in 5 years ended up where Minny is right now, that is an outcome all these tankers should be amazingly happy with, and actually one of the better case results, compared with the Orlando and Sacremento type outcomes that are just as likely.
Yet people are sitting here trying to downplay Minny? Bizarre.
WindyCityBorn wrote:RagingBull316 wrote:Those of you saying this rebuild will be 2-3 years are insane and really don't understand.
It will be at least 6 or 7 years before we even come close to making the playoffs again. That is the reality. Even when that eventually happens we will be right back where we are now. A middle of the pack team elminated in the first or second round. It won't be worth it.
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Not if we get lucky and draft a few all-stars. Which is what it takes to be an elite team in the NBA unless you are the Lakers.
Bourne85 wrote:Bulls are doing EXACTLY what a smart team would do.
jc23 wrote:its super official, the commish just announced the trade. Im excited in a way, im sure it will pass after a few weeks of watching terrible basketball.
jStuNNa wrote:WindyCityBorn wrote:RagingBull316 wrote:Those of you saying this rebuild will be 2-3 years are insane and really don't understand.
It will be at least 6 or 7 years before we even come close to making the playoffs again. That is the reality. Even when that eventually happens we will be right back where we are now. A middle of the pack team elminated in the first or second round. It won't be worth it.
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Not if we get lucky and draft a few all-stars. Which is what it takes to be an elite team in the NBA unless you are the Lakers.
The Bulls may have gotten one all-star tonight. Even after a stinker of a year, it's hard to imagine Kris Dunn at the very least, not becoming a very good starter for years to come. He definitely still has all-star potential regardless of what happened this past year in Minnesota.
Markkanen at first glance, looks good. As you watch more though, It's hard to see his ceiling any higher than a good role player since doesn't play defense or rebound well. Otherwise, he'd be a really good prospect. He just seems very one dimensional.
Kriss Dunn could potentially be a great #2 option on a contender. Bulls need to tank hard and try to get a #1 option to pair with him.
Rerisen wrote:Bourne85 wrote:Bulls are doing EXACTLY what a smart team would do.
Most Bulls fans understand the rationale, they just wanted a better package if they did it, and want a different FO to manage it.
Rerisen wrote:Bourne85 wrote:Bulls are doing EXACTLY what a smart team would do.
Most Bulls fans understand the rationale, they just wanted a better package if they did it, and want a different FO to manage it.
xpmar9x wrote:After sitting back a bit, still hate this trade. Would of liked it a bit more if we kept #16, shoot even think we should of received a future 1st. A few tidbits:
- Lauri Markkanen has potential. Haven't seen him play, just watched highlights. No way in hell Miro & him can play side by side.
- Loved Kris Dunn last year. Had to judge his rookie year, we all know Thibs hates rookies.
- Hopefully we suck enough that Hoiberg gets canned.. Gar too.
-2020 plan in full effect. Tank until then, get AD to return home. #trusttheprocess
Sad time to be a Bulls fan