Official: Jimmy Butler, #16 to Minnesota for Lavine, Dunn, #7 - merged/Justin Patton injured

[Rerisen]

Lollolololol!!!

Thanks for selling us those jerseys...Man from Robins, IL. Now, GTFOH.

It's so amusing how every player you hate and think is a problem was acquired or drafted by the people who you think aren't.

[WindyCityBorn]

Last year the Bulls wanted Lavine and Dunn for Jimmy.

This year they got them PLUS the #7 pick. Only issue is we all now know Dunn sucks and Lavine tore his ACL.

Unreal...

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We don't know that Dunn sucks. I'm gonna give him more than one season.

[McBulls]

Bulls will always be my team, but I'd be lying if I didn't say Minnesota will be far more interesting to watch than the Bulls next year, probably for many years.

Your job as this board's most prolific poster just got a lot harder.

Butler was one of my most favorite Bulls of all time. Who is there to love on this team now?
Wade, I guess, but the grass is already growing over his career grave, which appropriately is in Chicago. Gervin was once a Bull too.

[DASMACKDOWN]

Those of you saying this rebuild will be 2-3 years are insane and really don't understand.

It will be at least 6 or 7 years before we even come close to making the playoffs again. That is the reality. Even when that eventually happens we will be right back where we are now. A middle of the pack team elminated in the first or second round. It won't be worth it.

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Not if we get lucky and draft a few all-stars. Which is what it takes to be an elite team in the NBA unless you are the Lakers.

The Bulls may have gotten one all-star tonight. Even after a stinker of a year, it's hard to imagine Kris Dunn at the very least, not becoming a very good starter for years to come. He definitely still has all-star potential regardless of what happened this past year in Minnesota.

Markkanen at first glance, looks good. As you watch more though, It's hard to see his ceiling any higher than a good role player since doesn't play defense or rebound well. Otherwise, he'd be a really good prospect. He just seems very one dimensional.

Dirk was never those things either. He turned out pretty good. Hey im just hoping for best case scenario.

[kurtatx]

Can't believe Bulls are going to win under 20 games next year and suck for the next 5...by the time 2022 rolls around the Bulls will have had 1 really competitive season in 25 years...

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This is a bit, right? You're not actually saying this crap.

[chrispatrick]

They got horrible value for a star player.

What would've been good value?

What was available? Apparently Boston didn't even want to give up the 3rd pick.

Heck, I would have preferred a bad team's 2018 pick alone to the "haul" we got. I think the Celtics would have budged and traded Brooklyn's pick absent anything else.

[Rerisen]

Wouldnt be a bad team at all. There's be a lot of free flowing offense. Especially, if you resign Niko and trade Wade for Melo.

Trying to build a team that wasn't bad, would be utterly incomprehensible right now.

This trade hasn't set up virtually anything. The best thing it could possibly set up is helping us be the worst next year. Maybe even for 2 or 3 years. If that wasn't the plan, then it was a huge blunder.

[molepharmer]

Bulls are doing EXACTLY what a smart team would do.

Most Bulls fans understand the rationale, they just wanted a better package if they did it, and want a different FO to manage it.

Agree. But if some people would think about it for a second they'd realize that no team is going to trade the Bulls something with the potential to be better than Jimmy. That would make no sense for the other team. The Bulls were always going to get the worse player/pick in any trade. At least with this trade they have three youngsters who have decent potential to be good players.

[Ctownbulls]

Can't believe Bulls are going to win under 20 games next year and suck for the next 5...by the time 2022 rolls around the Bulls will have had 1 really competitive season in 25 years...

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This is a bit, right? You're not actually saying this crap.

Explain how it is crap...

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[WindyCityBorn]

Dude, Kris Dunn is a bum.

He's only 4 years younger than Jimmy.

ONLY 4 years younger. 23 is pretty damn young. Jimmy wasn't doing anything at that age under Thibs.

At the time, Butler was the 2nd best player on a 40 something win team and had a great on/off court rating that he maintained every year of his career. He had not developed offensively but was a top 5-10 defensive player in the NBA.

What did Butler do his rookie season after 4 years of college?

[Susan]

Yeah, that's surprising. If Wade opts out the Bulls will have a TON of cap space. Which means they will overpay someone.

Wouldnt be a bad team at all. There's be a lot of free flowing offense. Especially, if you resign Niko and trade Wade for Melo.

[kulaz3000]

If Wade declines his second year.

Lopez/Lauri/Felicio
Lauri/Portis
Porter (Otto)/Zipser
LaVine/Denzel
Dunn/Rondo or we get someone like Beverly

That's a pretty interesting team. We suddenly become really athletic, long and have plenty of shooters. Extremely young though, and likely to miss out on the playoffs, but I don't think we'd be a bottom 5 team though for fans of anyone from next seasons draft class.

[DJhitek]

Overpay short term. No big. Rebuild is about drafting, and drafted players are cheap.

Real talk, this front office is about "self-preservation" right now. If anyone doubts that just take a look at what the Lakers brass did last summer. Big money contracts for one year are completely fine but still could make your team better in the short term. I'd rather keep that space open and just wait for the teams that want to dump their unwanted salary and get some picks.

[HomoSapien]

Lollolololol!!!

Thanks for selling us those jerseys...Man from Robins, IL. Now, GTFOH.

It's so amusing how every player you hate and think is a problem was acquired or drafted by the people who you think aren't.

Good lord, that was a good burn.

[GimmeDat]

Who cares about cap space - we're tanking. Might as well keep Wade.

[musiqsoulchild]

Lollolololol!!!

Thanks for selling us those jerseys...Man from Robins, IL. Now, GTFOH.

It's so amusing how every player you hate and think is a problem was acquired or drafted by the people who you think aren't.

Thats just how it works. Ultimately, the man/woman in charge is responsible for everything.

Not Thibs, Rose, Reggie or Jimmy. Those are just sideshows.

Wade was such a drag on the team last season. " I wish I could tell you the actual plan but I cant" in post-game conferences is NOT the way to go about this. All of those leadership qualities. And savvy vet experience amount to nothing when you do stuff like that. And when you sideline the actual guy the FO brought in (Rondo). The guy who (grudgingly) actually went to the bench so the FO could develop their young PG in Grant. Thats what it really looks like...vet savvy that is.

[Jcool0]

Dude, Kris Dunn is a bum.

He's only 4 years younger than Jimmy.

ONLY 4 years younger. 23 is pretty damn young. Jimmy wasn't doing anything at that age under Thibs.

At age 23, Jimmy started 12 playoff games and averaged 40 minutes per game in the playoffs under Thibs.

Any more brain busters?

And if Jimmy actually had any offense game then the Bulls might not have got bounced 4-1 to Miami.

[umfan83]

They got horrible value for a star player.

What would've been good value?

What was available? Apparently Boston didn't even want to give up the 3rd pick.

My personal belief is that a quality GM could get better value for Jimmy. No way of verifying but I just can't wrap my head around the value they got. And if they couldn't you wait until the deadline or you decide to build around Jimmy and hope he can get his Olympic buddies to join.

[kurtatx]

Overpay short term. No big. Rebuild is about drafting, and drafted players are cheap.

Real talk, this front office is about "self-preservation" right now. If anyone doubts that just take a look at what the Lakers brass did last summer. Big money contracts for one year are completely fine but still could make your team better in the short term. I'd rather keep that space open and just wait for the teams that want to dump their unwanted salary and get some picks.

Agreed. Do the bare minimum.

[kulaz3000]

I think the faction that are wanting to go full tank are going to be disappointed. Depending how the rest of the off season pans out, I think we could end up with a fairly decent team that either just misses the playoffs or sneaks in.