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Re: The 2017 NBA Draft Thread - Nets Select Jarrett Allen 

Post#521 » by Rich Rane » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:32 am

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Re: The 2017 NBA Draft Thread - Nets Select Jarrett Allen 

Post#522 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:33 am

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MrDollarBills wrote:yep. Honestly, would not shock me if the Nets had this guy targeted hardcore the entire time. switch on everything, defend the rim.

in 2 years time, we will be winning 4th qtrs. why? because we won't be getting done in by 1-5/2-5 pick and pop plays.

We'll be getting rebounds.....



and blocks.

i don't care if he's 6'10. his arms and afro make him 7'2

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Post#523 » by NyCeEvO » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:34 am

So here's what I said at the beginning of the thread. While the comment was anti-Wilson post, the Nets went after I wanted in the appropriate order:
NyCeEvO wrote:I prefer other bigs like Bam and Pasecniks over Wilson. A lot of the stuff that he did at college won't work in the league. The two biggest boxes that need to be checked on my list for a desired big are agility, then toughness. (Pasecniks doesn't provide elite agility but his combined height and mobility presents other problems for the defense.)

I want someone who can hedge, or even blow up picks. That's a major deterrent especially in today's league which utilizes PnR so often. It's also why someone like Noel is an underrated yet still dominant defender.

Wilson's ability to stay in front of college guards might have been ok (although it was a bit shaky IMO), but it won't not hold up in the league.

So far, I like Allen's freakish measurements and his good east-west agility. That's exactly what I was referring to. What made T.Chandler so great and Noel great at present is that they they can stay with the ballhandler for a seconds after the pick because they were/are agile enough to do so. They are also long enough to deny the entry/lob pass to the rolling big.

While I'm a bit concerned about Allen's weak base, I can definitely see the potential there. If he can build up so his lower body so he has a bit more vertical explosion and a stronger stance, he can be a big time NBA defender.
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Re: The 2017 NBA Draft Thread - Nets Select Jarrett Allen 

Post#524 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:35 am

I'm cool with it. we got blocks/rebounds/floor runner/switch on d/finisher type.

get him in the gym for prep work. find him the finest barber in BK to shape up his fro. not a hair should be out of place come opening night.
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Re: The 2017 NBA Draft Thread - Nets Select Jarrett Allen 

Post#525 » by halfHAVOC » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:37 am

MrDollarBills wrote:I'm cool with it. we got blocks/rebounds/floor runner/switch on d/finisher type.

get him in the gym for prep work. find him the finest barber in BK to shape up his fro. not a hair should be out of place come opening night.

lol my first thought was, brooklyn needs to bless him with a barber
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Re: The 2017 NBA Draft Thread - Nets Select Jarrett Allen 

Post#526 » by Rich Rane » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:37 am

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MrDollarBills wrote:I'm cool with it. we got blocks/rebounds/floor runner/switch on d/finisher type.

get him in the gym for prep work. find him the finest barber in BK to shape up his fro. not a hair should be out of place come opening night.

lol my first thought was, brooklyn needs to bless him with a barber


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Re: The 2017 NBA Draft Thread - Nets Select Jarrett Allen 

Post#527 » by spaceballer » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:39 am

MrDollarBills wrote:Prok I think I was talking with you about this kid a few weeks back. Dude was like pinning shots to the backboard and what not. Crazy length. I love this pick, perfect center to groom.

Now, I think we're going to need to invest in a stretch 4. We have Mozgov/Allen. we'll need to probably see if we can get a trade or free agent stretchie big. RHJ will have to come off of the bench, i don't think we can start him and our current bigs together.

Yup, RHJ is the collateral damage from the Lopez trade and this draft. Unless he improves his 3pt shooting, he is out. Need a stretch four next to Allen or Mozgov.

Can't have no range from both the PF (RHJ, Booker) and C ( Mozgov, Allen) spots in the modern NBA. Quincy Acy can shoot 3pters at PF and Booker seems too hesitant to do so, though I have some hope that RHJ can improve over the summer since he is young. No chance right now of Allen adding a 3pter right now given his poor free throw shooting, maybe some years from now.
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Re: The 2017 NBA Draft Thread - Nets Select Jarrett Allen 

Post#528 » by vincecarter4pres » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:39 am

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nah, let's take this one step further. i have to post this in spoiler tags i don't want rich and nyce to drop kick me in the jaw:

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Re: The 2017 NBA Draft Thread - Nets Select Jarrett Allen 

Post#529 » by Paradise » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:39 am

MrDollarBills wrote:I'm cool with it. we got blocks/rebounds/floor runner/switch on d/finisher type.

get him in the gym for prep work. find him the finest barber in BK to shape up his fro. not a hair should be out of place come opening night.

Lin, Russ and Allen will lead the league in best hairstyles this season.


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Post#530 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:39 am

NyCeEvO wrote:So here's what I said at the beginning of the thread. While the comment was anti-Wilson post, the Nets went after I wanted in the appropriate order:
NyCeEvO wrote:I prefer other bigs like Bam and Pasecniks over Wilson. A lot of the stuff that he did at college won't work in the league. The two biggest boxes that need to be checked on my list for a desired big are agility, then toughness. (Pasecniks doesn't provide elite agility but his combined height and mobility presents other problems for the defense.)

I want someone who can hedge, or even blow up picks. That's a major deterrent especially in today's league which utilizes PnR so often. It's also why someone like Noel is an underrated yet still dominant defender.

Wilson's ability to stay in front of college guards might have been ok (although it was a bit shaky IMO), but it won't not hold up in the league.

So far, I like Allen's freakish measurements and his good east-west agility. That's exactly what I was referring to. What made T.Chandler so great and Noel great at present is that they they can stay with the ballhandler for a seconds after the pick because they were/are agile enough to do so. They are also long enough to deny the entry/lob pass to the rolling big.

While I'm a bit concerned about Allen's weak base, I can definitely see the potential there. If he can build up so his lower body so he has a bit more vertical explosion and a stronger stance, he can be a big time NBA defender.



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Re: The 2017 NBA Draft Thread - Nets Select Jarrett Allen 

Post#531 » by Claud » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:41 am

Allen... very good long term prospect. We are going to be a totally different team next season.
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Re: The 2017 NBA Draft Thread - Nets Select Jarrett Allen 

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Re: The 2017 NBA Draft Thread - Nets Select Jarrett Allen 

Post#533 » by Rich Rane » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:41 am

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Post#534 » by FlipFlopShot » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:43 am

Will fit right in.

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Post#535 » by Prokorov » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:44 am

if the spurs take semi and he turns into jimmy butler..... ugh...
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Post#536 » by Rich Rane » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:44 am

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Post#537 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:45 am

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Re: The 2017 NBA Draft Thread - Nets Select Jarrett Allen 

Post#538 » by NyCeEvO » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:46 am

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Brooklyn Nets: C Jarrett Allen, Texas

Allen entered the season as the favorite to be the first center off the board, but his freshman year had plenty of bumps. Still, his huge wingspan and great athleticism project to allow him to become an elite defender. The Nets are all about potential at this point, and Allen is a great pick in that regard, while he might even start next season if they are willing to take his learning curve in stride.

Grade: A

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Brooklyn Nets: Jarrett Allen, C, Texas
Allen was seen as a possible lottery pick coming into the season, but an up-and-down year on a Texas team without a point guard or much 3-point shooting depressed his draft stock. Brooklyn may end up benefiting from Allen’s difficult college situation, as centers with his skill and athleticism (and a 7-foot-5 wingspan) are rarely available this late in the first round. While he will need to get stronger, develop his perimeter jumper, and learn to leverage his length on the defensive end of the floor, he has all the tools to be an excellent two-way center in today’s game.
Value: A
Fit: A

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Don't be fooled by Jarrett Allen's hair. Even though the tip of his afro might reach well over seven feet into the air, he's really only 6'10". But don't let that fool you, either. With his 7'5" wingspan, he's still capable of functioning as a standalone interior defender who can shut down the paint and force opponents into awkward shots.

The Brooklyn Nets needed a replacement for Brook Lopez after trading him to the Los Angeles Lakers for a package centered around D'Angelo Russell, and they've found one. He just doesn't play nearly the same game, since Allen is defined by his rebounding, athleticism and knack for rolling to the hoop to finish plays in the restricted area.

Adjusting to this style might be difficult. But especially if Allen can add a perimeter jumper—he went 0-of-7 from beyond the arc during his lone season as a Longhorn—it'll be well worth the stylistic shift.



Grade: B+

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Huge potential in athletic big man. Has the measurables, but can he develop a better offensive game? B+

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Brooklyn Nets: Jarrett Allen, Texas

Everyone was expecting the Nets to take a big risk here, and that’s exactly what they did. Allen has impressive physical tools, but has a lot of learning to do. He improved over the course of the season at Texas, which helps his cause a little bit, but scouts were mixed about whether or not Allen would ever tap into his full potential. It’s smart in theory and certainly justifiable, but there’s equal reason to be skeptical. The good news is that Brooklyn can afford to wait and see. Grade: B–

https://www.si.com/nba/2017/06/22/nba-draft-grades-players-teams-76ers-lakers-celtics


B-, who else they think we should have gotten?

Was wondering the exact same thing...they said that we should take a risk and that we did, but then seem to downgrade us for taking a risk lol.
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Re: The 2017 NBA Draft Thread - Nets Select Jarrett Allen 

Post#539 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:46 am

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MrDollarBills wrote:I'm cool with it. we got blocks/rebounds/floor runner/switch on d/finisher type.

get him in the gym for prep work. find him the finest barber in BK to shape up his fro. not a hair should be out of place come opening night.

Lin, Russ and Allen will lead the league in best hairstyles this season.


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Post#540 » by NyCeEvO » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:48 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
NyCeEvO wrote:So here's what I said at the beginning of the thread. While the comment was anti-Wilson post, the Nets went after I wanted in the appropriate order:
NyCeEvO wrote:I prefer other bigs like Bam and Pasecniks over Wilson. A lot of the stuff that he did at college won't work in the league. The two biggest boxes that need to be checked on my list for a desired big are agility, then toughness. (Pasecniks doesn't provide elite agility but his combined height and mobility presents other problems for the defense.)

I want someone who can hedge, or even blow up picks. That's a major deterrent especially in today's league which utilizes PnR so often. It's also why someone like Noel is an underrated yet still dominant defender.

Wilson's ability to stay in front of college guards might have been ok (although it was a bit shaky IMO), but it won't not hold up in the league.

So far, I like Allen's freakish measurements and his good east-west agility. That's exactly what I was referring to. What made T.Chandler so great and Noel great at present is that they they can stay with the ballhandler for a seconds after the pick because they were/are agile enough to do so. They are also long enough to deny the entry/lob pass to the rolling big.

While I'm a bit concerned about Allen's weak base, I can definitely see the potential there. If he can build up so his lower body so he has a bit more vertical explosion and a stronger stance, he can be a big time NBA defender.



leg press. squats. core work.

Yessir...and some kettle bell action.

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