2017 Draft

skywalker33 · Post #461 » by **skywalker33** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:35 am

Well, our bench is so f'ning deep, our 2nd unit will outscore anybody's bench...... well done TC :roll:

Post #462 » by **The Rebel** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:40 am

skywalker33 wrote:Well, our bench is so f'ning deep, our 2nd unit will outscore anybody's bench...... well done TC

You are not going to draft many guys who can start on a team trying to make the playoffs, our improvements for this year will be coming from trades and free agency.

skywalker33 · Post #463 » by **skywalker33** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:45 am

The Rebel wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:Well, our bench is so f'ning deep, our 2nd unit will outscore anybody's bench...... well done TC

You are not going to draft many guys who can start on a team trying to make the playoffs, our improvements for this year will be coming from trades and free agency.

And we started the evening with the 13th pick and ended up with ...who ? Maybe we;ll be this aggressive in free agency and the trade market .

Post #464 » by **NuggetsWY** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:57 am

skywalker33 wrote:
The Rebel wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:Well, our bench is so f'ning deep, our 2nd unit will outscore anybody's bench...... well done TC

You are not going to draft many guys who can start on a team trying to make the playoffs, our improvements for this year will be coming from trades and free agency.

And we started the evening with the 13th pick and ended up with ...who ? Maybe we;ll be this aggressive in free agency and the trade market .

If we are this aggressive in free agency, we could probably pickup Jose Calderon & James Jones.

SoCalNuggsFan · Post #465 » by **SoCalNuggsFan** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:04 am

A pick I like! Monte Morris will be a good backup pg in the league. Guard spot is now officially set between Murray, Harris, Mudiay, Beasley and Morris.

Post #466 » by **NuggetsWY** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:08 am

SoCalNuggsFan wrote:A pick I like! Monte Morris will be a good backup pg in the league. Guard spot is now officially set between Murray, Harris, Mudiay, Beasley and Morris.

You left off Malone's favorite: Nelson. :lol:

I'm betting Monte Morris ends up spending the year in the G-League.

Post #467 » by **NuggetsWY** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:10 am

Anybody else have to go look up our newest draft-n-stash? Vlatko Cancar: I think we can wait 2 or 3 years before we have to learn how to pronounce his name. :wink:

Powder Blue · Post #468 » by **Powder Blue** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:42 am

The Rebel wrote:One thing to remember is that we still have free agency, the short term improvements for this year have always been coming from free agency and trades.

What's our track record been with free agency and trades? Draft supposed to be our strong suit

skywalker33 · Post #469 » by **skywalker33** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:50 am

Powder Blue wrote:
The Rebel wrote:One thing to remember is that we still have free agency, the short term improvements for this year have always been coming from free agency and trades.

What's our track record been with free agency and trades? Draft supposed to be our strong suit

Can't see a free agent like Paul Milsap or CP3 truly considering us after this showing...pathetic !

Powder Blue · Post #470 » by **Powder Blue** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:19 am

Read on Twitter

This was the highlight of my night...a Kiz retweet and some twitter battles

elw4sports · Post #471 » by **elw4sports** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:23 am

i think lydon slides over to the three but we need to trade faried or arthur

Post #472 » by **MHZ** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:29 am

Wow. So, that sucked.

Riko · Post #473 » by **Riko** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:48 am

I like this trade. I don't know Lydon but usually denver's scout are really good because Mudiay is the only first round bust in the last 5-6 years (Faried, Fournier, Gobert*, Harris, Nurkic, Jokic are all still in the league) and I like Lyles who has height (6-10), weight (234lbs) and range (38% 3p in his rookie season) to play with Jokic.
Obviously it is not the best scenario but I blame Nurkic's trade: if TC didn't make it denver wuold have done the PO, had the 15&20 picks and trade them for the 10th and then who knows (let's dream and say SA gets the 10th, Washington gets LMA and we get Porter)...

Now denver have too many PF (Lyles-Lydon-Faried-Arthur-Hernangomez) so 2 of them have to go (I hope Faried, Lydon, Arthur) but the most important thing is that Connelly MUSTN'T overpaid in the summer for middle-tier player: let Plumpee walks, maybe even Gallinari and, if no real max player arrive like I think (CP3, Porter, Ibaka) bring to Denver only GOOD defensive player (P.J tucker, Tony snell) and veterans (Livingston, Mills, Nenè).

Mickey8 · Post #474 » by **Mickey8** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:07 am

If the last year NBA Draft was very productive and one in 2014, this one was dreadful , nothing to be excited about, no defensive player to compliment Jokic inside or on the perimeter . Denver have to try to improve through trades now .

Post #475 » by **The Rebel** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:08 am

Powder Blue wrote:
The Rebel wrote:One thing to remember is that we still have free agency, the short term improvements for this year have always been coming from free agency and trades.

What's our track record been with free agency and trades? Draft supposed to be our strong suit

UP until Nurkic our strength was trading as well as the draft, and I think you all are overreacting to this draft. Maybe we strike out on free agency, but they have to do a trade now, you cannot go into the season with 5 pfs most of whom cannot play center.

Post #476 » by **The Rebel** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:11 am

skywalker33 wrote:
Powder Blue wrote:
The Rebel wrote:One thing to remember is that we still have free agency, the short term improvements for this year have always been coming from free agency and trades.

What's our track record been with free agency and trades? Draft supposed to be our strong suit

Can't see a free agent like Paul Milsap or CP3 truly considering us after this showing...pathetic !

Really? you think free agents like Millsap or CP3 give a **** about mid-1st round picks?

Post #477 » by **The Rebel** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:16 am

NuggetsWY wrote:Anybody else have to go look up our newest draft-n-stash? Vlatko Cancar: I think we can wait 2 or 3 years before we have to learn how to pronounce his name.

He is coming out of the same team where we got Jokic, which is the same league that Nurkic came out of, I may actually be higher on him than I am either of the other 2 picks.

skywalker33 · Post #478 » by **skywalker33** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:24 am

The Rebel wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:
Powder Blue wrote:
What's our track record been with free agency and trades? Draft supposed to be our strong suit

Can't see a free agent like Paul Milsap or CP3 truly considering us after this showing...pathetic !

Really? you think free agents like Millsap or CP3 give a **** about mid-1st round picks?

I absolutely think free agents look at how their potential FO's conduct business !!! It's not all about the money, it's the quality of the organization and between the Nurkic trade and this draft, you don't think their is going to be some red flags drawn out ?? As for Milsap, how do you see him looking at a roster with FIVE PF's (two just acquired) ???

Mich3006 · Post #479 » by **Mich3006** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:30 am

Nuggets will stuck in mediocrity. How can you trade such solid value like the 13th pick for Lyles and draft another PF. I mean Lyles could be a solid fit on the PF but not at that price. But it seems the Nuggets FO valued this year´s draft as one of the worst if you look at them dumping 1sts like garbage.

What´s the reason they didn´t swing a deal for Eric Bledsoe? He would´ve been perfect for their ambitions (prime age PG with incredible defense and leadership skills).

But now they have the worst PG core in the league and a bunch of mediocre Power Forwards.

If they won´t make a splash in free agency the postseason will be out of reach, no doubt about that IMO.

Post #480 » by **MHZ** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:30 am

The Rebel wrote:
NuggetsWY wrote:Anybody else have to go look up our newest draft-n-stash? Vlatko Cancar: I think we can wait 2 or 3 years before we have to learn how to pronounce his name.

He is coming out of the same team where we got Jokic, which is the same league that Nurkic came out of, I may actually be higher on him than I am either of the other 2 picks.

I think that's a good bet. Our FO can certainly scout Europe. Better than just about anybody, and I feel confident when we take a European kid.

I cannot name the thing they're second best at, and I'm 100% serious.

It is not: roster construction, selling/closing free agents, making deals with other teams, making hard decisions in the best interest of the team, having a vision and executing against it versus just kind of hoping things happen for you, etc.

Drafting Jokic and the Harris/Nurkic trade were absolutely A+. Barton trade was nice. It's really, really sketchy otherwise. Their inaction has been shocking more often than not.

People around here trash Malone, but the front office has not helped him.

The next few months are huge. This conference is really good.