Miami HEAT Offseason/Trades/FA Thread: Sardine Central

[HIF]

Does FA start on the 6th?

[Mars]

HEAT's talent evaluation brain trust has been pretty damn spot on recently in terms of uncovering gems...

• Hassan
• Dion
• JJ
• Tyler
• Rich
• McGruder
• Ellington
• Reed
• Okaro

[RexBoyWonder]

The team may be saying he will play some PF, but I'd be very surprised if he ever finds himself alongside Hassan in lineups.

He's a backup 5, high energy big who has good physical tools to finish above the rim, jump out on pick and rolls and defend. It looks like he has a decent stroke, just hasn't shown it much yet.

Seeing our pick really killed my vibes at first, but im starting to hold on to the hope his 3 point shooting is for real.

Seeing the workout videos, his release looks pretty good.

I'm nervous because he never shot 3's in real games before, but if by some miracle he becomes a decent catch and shoot shooter - he's suddenly becomes a much much more useful player as an alethic stretch PF.

Can't wait to see more of him shooting in summer league. Not too optimistic but can't rule him out yet, seems like an hard worker.

[twix2500]

Does FA start on the 6th?

July 1 — Official start of 2017/18 league year; July moratorium begins. Free agents can begin reaching verbal agreements with teams.

July 6 — July moratorium ends (11:00am CT); teams can begin officially signing players and making trades.

[RexBoyWonder]

Definitely the Heat are expecting Bam to be able to play powerforward. They targeted players that were PF/C position players. The reason the Heat did not draft Leaf because they didnt feel he can play the Center position and may not even be able to defend the PF position. Plus the Heat already have Leaf on the roster which is McBob.

As of right now till we see what happens in FA. Bam is the starting power forward.

Really hoping you're right.

If he can't develop a reliable outside shot he's a bad pick and a big reach with questionable value in todays league.

However if he can prove to be a good or even decent 3 point/long range shooter, it changes everything. Suddenly you've got an uber-athletic PF that can run, defend 3-5 and hit open shoots - extremely useful player.

Prove me wrong Bambam. shoot 10000 3's a day and become a better Ibaka.

[twix2500]

The team may be saying he will play some PF, but I'd be very surprised if he ever finds himself alongside Hassan in lineups.

He's a backup 5, high energy big who has good physical tools to finish above the rim, jump out on pick and rolls and defend. It looks like he has a decent stroke, just hasn't shown it much yet.

Seeing our pick really killed my vibes at first, but im starting to hold on to the hope his 3 point shooting is for real.

Seeing the workout videos, his release looks pretty good.

I'm nervous because he never shot 3's in real games before, but if by some miracle he becomes a decent catch and shoot shooter - he's suddenly becomes a much much more useful player as an alethic stretch PF.

Can't wait to see more of him shooting in summer league. Not too optimistic but can't rule him out yet, seems like an hard worker.

Yeah even thou it was a glimpse, he looked extremely comfortable shooting and power taking it to the rim drenching in sweat. Looks like he is tough as nails. Small signs that can say so much. Look like the Heat can put him thru the gauntlet and he will enjoy it.

[Bishop45]

Definitely the Heat are expecting Bam to be able to play powerforward. They targeted players that were PF/C position players. The reason the Heat did not draft Leaf because they didnt feel he can play the Center position and may not even be able to defend the PF position. Plus the Heat already have Leaf on the roster which is McBob.

As of right now till we see what happens in FA. Bam is the starting power forward.

Really hoping you're right.

If he can't develop a reliable outside shot he's a bad pick and a big reach with questionable value in todays league.

However if he can prove to be a good or even decent 3 point/long range shooter, it changes everything. Suddenly you've got an uber-athletic PF that can run, defend 3-5 and hit open shoots - extremely useful player.

Prove me wrong Bambam. shoot 10000 3's a day and become a better Ibaka.

Slow and he can't dribble, he's not a PF imo. If TT can be a starting C in this league then I can see the intrigue in drafting him but suuch a reach man, gotta believe Pat knows what he's doing tho

[spectrec130]

Is it still the consensus still to expect Dion and JJ will be offered hi $$$$ contracts in FA?

Wondering with all the player movement and lower cap space if resigning them will be as challenging as has been reported.....


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[Bishop45]

No way this dude can play PF, especially with Spo on the bench. Look at the, Warriors they have 3-4 elite creators all the time. With Hassan and Bam on the floor we would have 2 black holes. That's not how you play in 2017

He's a C, ughh we used a lottery pick on an undersized C in a deep draft.

I don't understand, doesn't feel like a high risk, high upside pick... Just high risk

[Mos_Heat]

No way this dude can play PF, especially with Spo on the bench. Look at the, Warriors they have 3-4 elite creators all the time. With Hassan and Bam on the floor we would have 2 black holes. That's not how you play in 2017

He's a C, ughh we used a lottery pick on an undersized C in a deep draft.

I don't understand, doesn't feel like a high risk, high upside pick... Just high risk

Yeah, I would definetely prefer someone with at least starter potential.

[twix2500]

No way this dude can play PF, especially with Spo on the bench. Look at the, Warriors they have 3-4 elite creators all the time. With Hassan and Bam on the floor we would have 2 black holes. That's not how you play in 2017

He's a C, ughh we used a lottery pick on an undersized C in a deep draft.

I don't understand, doesn't feel like a high risk, high upside pick... Just high risk

What Pat seen in workouts is why he is confident he is more than just a center. They didnt pick him with the perception that he is just a center. Whether they wrong or right about that remains to be seen. Luke Babbit cant dribble and he played powerforward and small forward. I do question his ability to handle the ball around the perimeter. Cutting to the basket or open court I think he will be fine. Passing is what I think really lacks in his game. But yeah he is a project offensively. They will likely try to use him like Ibaka and it will be a project for the next three years. His workouts could be an indication that he his ahead of schedule in his development.

[twix2500]

No way this dude can play PF, especially with Spo on the bench. Look at the, Warriors they have 3-4 elite creators all the time. With Hassan and Bam on the floor we would have 2 black holes. That's not how you play in 2017

He's a C, ughh we used a lottery pick on an undersized C in a deep draft.

I don't understand, doesn't feel like a high risk, high upside pick... Just high risk

Yeah, I would definetely prefer someone with at least starter potential.

Potential as a starter is just the same as everyone who was drafted in 14 and above, unless you were willing to take Giles.

[Bishop45]

No way this dude can play PF, especially with Spo on the bench. Look at the, Warriors they have 3-4 elite creators all the time. With Hassan and Bam on the floor we would have 2 black holes. That's not how you play in 2017

He's a C, ughh we used a lottery pick on an undersized C in a deep draft.

I don't understand, doesn't feel like a high risk, high upside pick... Just high risk

What Pat seen in workouts is why he is confident he is more than just a center. They didnt pick him with the perception that he is just a center. Whether they wrong or right about that remains to be seen. Luke Babbit cant dribble and he played powerforward and small forward. I do question his ability to handle the ball around the perimeter. Cutting to the basket or open court I think he will be fine. Passing is what I think really lacks in his game. But yeah he is a project offensively. They will likely try to use him like Ibaka and it will be a project for the next three years. His workouts could be an indication that he his ahead of schedule in his development.

Luke Babbitt= not good. I would want Bam or Lotto pick to =/ Babbitt by all means

[twix2500]

He's a C, ughh we used a lottery pick on an undersized C in a deep draft.

I don't understand, doesn't feel like a high risk, high upside pick... Just high risk

What Pat seen in workouts is why he is confident he is more than just a center. They didnt pick him with the perception that he is just a center. Whether they wrong or right about that remains to be seen. Luke Babbit cant dribble and he played powerforward and small forward. I do question his ability to handle the ball around the perimeter. Cutting to the basket or open court I think he will be fine. Passing is what I think really lacks in his game. But yeah he is a project offensively. They will likely try to use him like Ibaka and it will be a project for the next three years. His workouts could be an indication that he his ahead of schedule in his development.

Luke Babbitt= not good. I would want Bam or Lotto pick to =/ Babbitt by all means

You might be having a little to high of an expectation for a 14th pick. Are you expecting the quality of Draymond Green at 14?

[Mos_Heat]

He's a C, ughh we used a lottery pick on an undersized C in a deep draft.

I don't understand, doesn't feel like a high risk, high upside pick... Just high risk

Yeah, I would definetely prefer someone with at least starter potential.

Potential as a starter is just the same as everyone who was drafted in 14 and above, unless you were willing to take Giles.

well, if i have to choose between two of them, I would actually take Giles

[Mos_Heat]

What Pat seen in workouts is why he is confident he is more than just a center. They didnt pick him with the perception that he is just a center. Whether they wrong or right about that remains to be seen. Luke Babbit cant dribble and he played powerforward and small forward. I do question his ability to handle the ball around the perimeter. Cutting to the basket or open court I think he will be fine. Passing is what I think really lacks in his game. But yeah he is a project offensively. They will likely try to use him like Ibaka and it will be a project for the next three years. His workouts could be an indication that he his ahead of schedule in his development.

Luke Babbitt= not good. I would want Bam or Lotto pick to =/ Babbitt by all means

You might be having a little to high of an expectation for a 14th pick. Are you expecting Draymond Green at 14?

why not? Dray was a second rounder

[twix2500]

Luke Babbitt= not good. I would want Bam or Lotto pick to =/ Babbitt by all means

You might be having a little to high of an expectation for a 14th pick. Are you expecting Draymond Green at 14?

why not? Dray was a second rounder

Golden State wasnt expecting the quality of Draymond Green when they drafted him. No one was........

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[Wiltside]

Keep in mind that Luke Babbit himself was once a lotto pick....

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