Ainge: Josh Jackson cancelled workout while Celtics were flying cross-country to him

[TommyPointGawd]

There's nothing wrong with not working out for Boston.

There's everything wrong with making Ainge, Zarren, and Stevens fly cross country and then backing out.

Do you think Jackson said at the last minute nevermind I don't feel like it? Even if that's the case the agents job is to make him go. This is a clear BJ Armstrong trying to call the shots maybe even revenge for the Javele McGee situation. Jackson was saying that they weren't interested in him. Where do you think he's getting that info?

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[Red2]

not only did he cancel mid-flight but Ainge refuted Jackson's story that he spoke to Brad Stevens and the coaching staff. Danny said that never happened. So in addition to lacking personal integrity Jackson is also a liar. Consider this though: the Celts were willing to fly across country right before the draft to see Jackson. Does that really sound like a team that was 100% sold on Tatum? If Tatum was truly their number 1 all along why did they try so hard to see Jackson? My take is that Jackson was their top guy and they pivoted to Tatum after it became clear ( on the airplane!!) that Jackson did not want to be a Celtic and was effing with them. Personally I think the Celts blew this draft; Fultz was the guy but Danny fell victim to the smartest man in the room syndrome and thought he knew better than everyone else. Fultz to me is clearly the best player in this draft and that pick we got from Philly is going to seem meaningless when Fultz is an all star in 2 years and Tatum is a good but not great player.

[CeltsfaninDC]

If he is way better than Tatum(which I think he will be) it will be Danny's fault for getting caught up in his feelings.
BJ Armstrong is the worst agent in the league. He clearly was trying to steer Jackson elsewhere. Armstrong is always meddling and ultimately hurting his players.

I think it is safe to assume that they would have picked Jackson if he didn't pull this BS. Danny was pissed rightfully so. But you think the Warriors would rather have Brendon Jennings because Steph wouldn't work out?

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Exactly. I know everyone around here worships ainge, but passing on a prospect based on personal feelings being hurt is much less professional than Jackson not working out for one of 10+ teams that wanted to see him.

He worked out for other teams, so he's not a douche for them. Most of you're being butt hurt for ainge and yourselves and in typical Boston fashion, going on a hate campaign for this guy.

Be a f-ing man Danny!

Thats not what this is about at all. These workouts are as much to see who these kids are in person as anything - its a job interview. They've seen them play athletically, but they need to evaluate the person and in this case the person is a dick. If I was trying to hire someone and they did that to me I'd know instantly that I wouldn't want to have that person on my team. His attitude is awful and combined with him smacking a girl (and I don't care one bit about the circumstances) you can quickly see that his judgement is poor and he is incredibly immature. Its not about personal feelings, its about seeing who he IS and then determining whether you'd want him on your team. If you can't trust a guy to show up for a workout after flying across the country to see him then how could you trust him to show up for practice or be a team player.

[tombattor]

Exactly. I know everyone around here worships ainge, but passing on a prospect based on personal feelings being hurt is much less professional than Jackson not working out for one of 10+ teams that wanted to see him.

He worked out for other teams, so he's not a douche for them. Most of you're being butt hurt for ainge and yourselves and in typical Boston fashion, going on a hate campaign for this guy.

Be a f-ing man Danny!

I'll say this. Danny has a philosophy and it was been working so far. I believe they would have picked Kris Dunn last year if he wanted to be here. So we will see how it goes. But Jackson was visibly upset. I think he wanted to come here and thought they would pick him anyway. The agent was playing games and Danny is not for that(in a way I respect that). But it can come back to bite him really bad this time. Tatum is NOT jaylen brown. I think Fultz and Jackson will be far far superior. And it will hurt for a long time.

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Being professional means, you're able to set aside all those personal feelings. In this case, Danny failed at that. I don't blow off work because some of my co-workers are being a douche. I try to address it with that person, but at the end, I still do what I have to do.

[tombattor]

If he is way better than Tatum(which I think he will be) it will be Danny's fault for getting caught up in his feelings.
BJ Armstrong is the worst agent in the league. He clearly was trying to steer Jackson elsewhere. Armstrong is always meddling and ultimately hurting his players.

I think it is safe to assume that they would have picked Jackson if he didn't pull this BS. Danny was pissed rightfully so. But you think the Warriors would rather have Brendon Jennings because Steph wouldn't work out?

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Exactly. I know everyone around here worships ainge, but passing on a prospect based on personal feelings being hurt is much less professional than Jackson not working out for one of 10+ teams that wanted to see him.

He worked out for other teams, so he's not a douche for them. Most of you're being butt hurt for ainge and yourselves and in typical Boston fashion, going on a hate campaign for this guy.

Be a f-ing man Danny!

Thats not what this is about at all. These workouts are as much to see who these kids are in person as anything - its a job interview. They've seen them play athletically, but they need to evaluate the person and in this case the person is a dick. If I was trying to hire someone and they did that to me I'd know instantly that I wouldn't want to have that person on my team. His attitude is awful and combined with him smacking a girl (and I don't care one bit about the circumstances) you can quickly see that his judgement is poor and he is incredibly immature. Its not about personal feelings, its about seeing who he IS and then determining whether you'd want him on your team. If you can't trust a guy to show up for a workout after flying across the country to see him then how could you trust him to show up for practice or be a team player.

I see that you're trying to shed a negative light on him. Just as I said in the previous post. There is no indication that he ever skips practices or not a team player. These are all assumptions.

[gammajamma]

Exactly. I know everyone around here worships ainge, but passing on a prospect based on personal feelings being hurt is much less professional than Jackson not working out for one of 10+ teams that wanted to see him.

He worked out for other teams, so he's not a douche for them. Most of you're being butt hurt for ainge and yourselves and in typical Boston fashion, going on a hate campaign for this guy.

Be a f-ing man Danny!

I'll say this. Danny has a philosophy and it was been working so far. I believe they would have picked Kris Dunn last year if he wanted to be here. So we will see how it goes. But Jackson was visibly upset. I think he wanted to come here and thought they would pick him anyway. The agent was playing games and Danny is not for that(in a way I respect that). But it can come back to bite him really bad this time. Tatum is NOT jaylen brown. I think Fultz and Jackson will be far far superior. And it will hurt for a long time.

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Being professional means, you're able to set aside all those personal feelings. In this case, Danny failed at that. I don't blow off work because some of my co-workers are being a douche. I try to address it with that person, but at the end, I still do what I have to do.

How did Danny fail at being professional when Jackson is the one who made him fly out and then cancelled on him last minute.

[DarkAzcura]

Exactly. I know everyone around here worships ainge, but passing on a prospect based on personal feelings being hurt is much less professional than Jackson not working out for one of 10+ teams that wanted to see him.

He worked out for other teams, so he's not a douche for them. Most of you're being butt hurt for ainge and yourselves and in typical Boston fashion, going on a hate campaign for this guy.

Be a f-ing man Danny!

Thats not what this is about at all. These workouts are as much to see who these kids are in person as anything - its a job interview. They've seen them play athletically, but they need to evaluate the person and in this case the person is a dick. If I was trying to hire someone and they did that to me I'd know instantly that I wouldn't want to have that person on my team. His attitude is awful and combined with him smacking a girl (and I don't care one bit about the circumstances) you can quickly see that his judgement is poor and he is incredibly immature. Its not about personal feelings, its about seeing who he IS and then determining whether you'd want him on your team. If you can't trust a guy to show up for a workout after flying across the country to see him then how could you trust him to show up for practice or be a team player.

I see that you're trying to shed a negative light on him. Just as I said in the previous post. There is no indication that he ever skips practices or not a team player. These are all assumptions.

You know..there's a chance he still had Tatum above Jackson regardless. It's speculation to believe otherwise at this point.

[tombattor]

I'll say this. Danny has a philosophy and it was been working so far. I believe they would have picked Kris Dunn last year if he wanted to be here. So we will see how it goes. But Jackson was visibly upset. I think he wanted to come here and thought they would pick him anyway. The agent was playing games and Danny is not for that(in a way I respect that). But it can come back to bite him really bad this time. Tatum is NOT jaylen brown. I think Fultz and Jackson will be far far superior. And it will hurt for a long time.

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Being professional means, you're able to set aside all those personal feelings. In this case, Danny failed at that. I don't blow off work because some of my co-workers are being a douche. I try to address it with that person, but at the end, I still do what I have to do.

How did Danny fail at being professional when Jackson is the one who made him fly out and then cancelled on him last minute.

So you deal with unprofessionalism with your own unprofessionalism, right?

[tombattor]

Thats not what this is about at all. These workouts are as much to see who these kids are in person as anything - its a job interview. They've seen them play athletically, but they need to evaluate the person and in this case the person is a dick. If I was trying to hire someone and they did that to me I'd know instantly that I wouldn't want to have that person on my team. His attitude is awful and combined with him smacking a girl (and I don't care one bit about the circumstances) you can quickly see that his judgement is poor and he is incredibly immature. Its not about personal feelings, its about seeing who he IS and then determining whether you'd want him on your team. If you can't trust a guy to show up for a workout after flying across the country to see him then how could you trust him to show up for practice or be a team player.

I see that you're trying to shed a negative light on him. Just as I said in the previous post. There is no indication that he ever skips practices or not a team player. These are all assumptions.

You know..there's a chance he still had Tatum above Jackson regardless. It's speculation to believe otherwise at this point.

If that's the case, sure. But even Danny said he was upset about Jackson not working out for him.

[gammajamma]

Being professional means, you're able to set aside all those personal feelings. In this case, Danny failed at that. I don't blow off work because some of my co-workers are being a douche. I try to address it with that person, but at the end, I still do what I have to do.

How did Danny fail at being professional when Jackson is the one who made him fly out and then cancelled on him last minute.

So you deal with unprofessionalism with your own unprofessionalism, right?

No but if you have two guys that you value equally, I'm going to pick the guy who cooperates and values my time.

[KGboss]

I hope he fails. Truly i do.

[TommyPointGawd]

We all have to move on. But saying he smacked a girl (which didn't happen) and isn't dependable to show up to practice or be a team player is BS.

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[ermocrate]

Jackson sucks and has no balls. So who cares?

[CeltsfaninDC]

Exactly. I know everyone around here worships ainge, but passing on a prospect based on personal feelings being hurt is much less professional than Jackson not working out for one of 10+ teams that wanted to see him.

He worked out for other teams, so he's not a douche for them. Most of you're being butt hurt for ainge and yourselves and in typical Boston fashion, going on a hate campaign for this guy.

Be a f-ing man Danny!

Thats not what this is about at all. These workouts are as much to see who these kids are in person as anything - its a job interview. They've seen them play athletically, but they need to evaluate the person and in this case the person is a dick. If I was trying to hire someone and they did that to me I'd know instantly that I wouldn't want to have that person on my team. His attitude is awful and combined with him smacking a girl (and I don't care one bit about the circumstances) you can quickly see that his judgement is poor and he is incredibly immature. Its not about personal feelings, its about seeing who he IS and then determining whether you'd want him on your team. If you can't trust a guy to show up for a workout after flying across the country to see him then how could you trust him to show up for practice or be a team player.

I see that you're trying to shed a negative light on him. Just as I said in the previous post. There is no indication that he ever skips practices or not a team player. These are all assumptions.

You mean aside from his recent conviction that KS tried to cover up where he threatened to beat up a girl and vandalized a car? You mean aside from that I'm trying to "shed a negative light on him''? He DID skip a workout. He does have a conviction on his record. He is showing that he's extremely immature. I'm glad we don't have him on our team.

[CeltsfaninDC]

I see that you're trying to shed a negative light on him. Just as I said in the previous post. There is no indication that he ever skips practices or not a team player. These are all assumptions.

You know..there's a chance he still had Tatum above Jackson regardless. It's speculation to believe otherwise at this point.

If that's the case, sure. But even Danny said he was upset about Jackson not working out for him.

Wouldn't you? Wouldn't anyone? Thats a full day of being in the air to go interview a guy only for him to say "eh, nevermind". I'd be pissed too. Its unprofessional and its his agent's job to make sure that crap doesn't happen. Even if they always had Tatum rated higher you still do your due diligence and go interview the kid. In this case the way he treated the interview confirmed their initial evaluation that they had the right guy

[thenbaman]

Sixer fan here,you guys got the better of the two players tatum is going to be a way better player
and the better person as well,jackson is a headcase reminds me of nick young.

[Falstaff]

Exactly. I know everyone around here worships ainge, but passing on a prospect based on personal feelings being hurt is much less professional than Jackson not working out for one of 10+ teams that wanted to see him.

He worked out for other teams, so he's not a douche for them. Most of you're being butt hurt for ainge and yourselves and in typical Boston fashion, going on a hate campaign for this guy.

Be a f-ing man Danny!

Thats not what this is about at all. These workouts are as much to see who these kids are in person as anything - its a job interview. They've seen them play athletically, but they need to evaluate the person and in this case the person is a dick. If I was trying to hire someone and they did that to me I'd know instantly that I wouldn't want to have that person on my team. His attitude is awful and combined with him smacking a girl (and I don't care one bit about the circumstances) you can quickly see that his judgement is poor and he is incredibly immature. Its not about personal feelings, its about seeing who he IS and then determining whether you'd want him on your team. If you can't trust a guy to show up for a workout after flying across the country to see him then how could you trust him to show up for practice or be a team player.

I see that you're trying to shed a negative light on him. Just as I said in the previous post. There is no indication that he ever skips practices or not a team player. These are all assumptions.

You're making an equivalent set of assumptions about Ainge. All we know is what he said in the interview - he was specifically asked whether Jackson blowing off the workout ruled him out as a prospect and he said no. You're upset he didn't take the player you think is best, so you assume Ainge let his feelings get the better of him.

Also, yes there is evidence Josh skips out on team events - blowing off the workout is literally that evidence. If you take Ainge admitting he was upset that Jackson wasted his time as such conclusive evidence, how are you giving Jackson a pass for something way more concrete?

Making a commitment to a potential employer and then backing out after they fly across the country absolutely is unprofessional. Using all the information at your disposal to select a player in the draft absolutely is not. Did Ainge make the right choice? Time will tell. Do you have to like it? Of course not. But did Ainge make an unprofessional choice? Not remotely.

[tombattor]

You know..there's a chance he still had Tatum above Jackson regardless. It's speculation to believe otherwise at this point.

If that's the case, sure. But even Danny said he was upset about Jackson not working out for him.

Wouldn't you? Wouldn't anyone? Thats a full day of being in the air to go interview a guy only for him to say "eh, nevermind". I'd be pissed too. Its unprofessional and its his agent's job to make sure that crap doesn't happen. Even if they always had Tatum rated higher you still do your due diligence and go interview the kid. In this case the way he treated the interview confirmed their initial evaluation that they had the right guy

Like you said, if Danny really thought Tatum was better than Jackson, then it's all moot. But if it was because he thought Jackson was being unprofessional and he's doing some sort of, "I'll show you" stuff, then he's being unprofessional too.

[DarkAzcura]

If that's the case, sure. But even Danny said he was upset about Jackson not working out for him.

Wouldn't you? Wouldn't anyone? Thats a full day of being in the air to go interview a guy only for him to say "eh, nevermind". I'd be pissed too. Its unprofessional and its his agent's job to make sure that crap doesn't happen. Even if they always had Tatum rated higher you still do your due diligence and go interview the kid. In this case the way he treated the interview confirmed their initial evaluation that they had the right guy

Like you said, if Danny really thought Tatum was better than Jackson, then it's all moot. But if it was because he thought Jackson was being unprofessional and he's doing some sort of, "I'll show you" stuff, then he's being unprofessional too.

Honestly we will never really know.

Ainge was surely upset, but we don't know if that was the reason. This is definitely on the agent, not Jackson. I can't imagine Ainge holding a grudge against a 20 year old kid who has no idea what he is doing in this process.

[hickfromfrenchlick]

If he is way better than Tatum(which I think he will be) it will be Danny's fault for getting caught up in his feelings.
BJ Armstrong is the worst agent in the league. He clearly was trying to steer Jackson elsewhere. Armstrong is always meddling and ultimately hurting his players.

I think it is safe to assume that they would have picked Jackson if he didn't pull this BS. Danny was pissed rightfully so. But you think the Warriors would rather have Brendon Jennings because Steph wouldn't work out?

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Exactly. I know everyone around here worships ainge, but passing on a prospect based on personal feelings being hurt is much less professional than Jackson not working out for one of 10+ teams that wanted to see him.

He worked out for other teams, so he's not a douche for them. Most of you're being butt hurt for ainge and yourselves and in typical Boston fashion, going on a hate campaign for this guy.

Be a f-ing man Danny!

You're assuming, I think without basis, that Danny would have selected him over Tatum had Jackson shown up for the workout.

All we know is that he and his agent canceled a workout while multiple Celtics execs were flying cross-country. And it didn't look there was any kind of effort on Jackson's part to cure that problem. So I don't blame Danny for being salty. We have no idea whether he liked Jackson more than Tatum. We heard rumors that Ainge liked both.