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Post#41 » by freshie2 » Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:54 pm

You have to project him out 1-2 years. Long, moves pretty well, and has some range. If his head is right (which it seems to be) he could develop into a very serviceable big before he comes over.
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Post#42 » by ___Rand___ » Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:37 pm

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Our glut of bigs is pretty overrated. Outside of Embiid/Saric/Holmes, we don't have much depth in terms of big bodies if you take into account Okafor's questionable future.

Why not stash a 7'2" mobile young big man for a few years If you think he has upside?


Simmons is 7'0" if you forgot xD. And don't forget Bolden you just got in 2nd round. The league is moving away from bigs towards smaller lineups unless they're like Markkenen - mobile and shoots 3s.

Gosh Embiid/Saric/Simmons/Okafor/Holmes. That's a lot of trees on the court!



On a fifteen man roster, Golden State has two players shorter than 6'7--Steph Curry and Ian Clark. Last year, the same. The only two players shorter than 6'7 were Curry and Leandro Barbosa. Smallball does not mean eschewing size. It means practically everyone on the floor has guard skills and plays how guards used to. Lest we forget GS's small forward is seven-feet tall.

Pasecniks is 7'2 and handles the ball in a guard-like fashion. Makes him exciting.

Moreover, Okafor and Holmes can be traded and improved upon. Actually, they must be if we're serious about a chip.


I'm talking about TALL CENTERS. Not 6'7" guys.
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Post#43 » by Ericb5 » Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:11 pm

I completely give BC the benefit of the doubt with this kid. He traded something of minimal value for him.

Let him stay in Europe for a couple of years, and maybe he turns into something.
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Post#44 » by Unbreakable99 » Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:52 pm

I hate players who are 7'2 like this guy who can't block shots. I mean what are you doing? How can you not block shots at 7'2? You're just wasting your body that some other player could use if they were 7'2 lol. Embiid is 7'2 and isn't even a leaper. He doesn't jump high but he's arguably the best shot blocker. Embiid needs to teach this guy lol. I do think this guy can be good on offense. He has skills.
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Post#45 » by LongLiveHinkie » Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:05 pm

Watching more of him, I like his game. I'm a sucker for bigs who can stretch and looks like he has that potential. Moves well for a guy his size. Hope he can be a Porzingis lite.
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Post#46 » by sixers78 » Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:11 pm

I don't know much about the kid besides watching highlights and readinf games writeups. So my judgement is less on that and more who I thought we should have taken given the trade up. First what we have up wasn't much to worry about at all. That pick is so far ahead in the future it's ridiculous to speculate the impact it'll have.

But I thought they should have traded up a pick of two higher and taken Tyler Lydon or even OG.
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Post#47 » by Kobblehead » Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:14 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:I hate players who are 7'2 like this guy who can't block shots. I mean what are you doing? How can you not block shots at 7'2? You're just wasting your body that some other player could use if they were 7'2 lol. Embiid is 7'2 and isn't even a leaper. He doesn't jump high but he's arguably the best shot blocker. Embiid needs to teach this guy lol. I do think this guy can be good on offense. He has skills.

It looks like he has developed into a shotblocker this year. He wasn't in the past, but he seems to be one now. Still putrid on the glass, though. Which makes me uninterested in him.
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Post#48 » by HotelVitale » Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:55 pm

ankle420breaker wrote:Seems like he was on other GM's radars, otherwise I'm not sure we wouldve felt it necessary to move up to take him. Wouldn't surprise me if San Antonio had him targeted at 29. They've always been adept at finding value upside prospects with their later picks.
Not saying you're wrong but this narrative seems a little outdated. They've actually been like 1 for their last 15 picks. Stuck out on first rounders like Kyle Anderson, James Anderson, and Livio Jean Charles and haven't found anyone useful in the 2nd round in a long while. Cory Joseph's their only real rotation find over the last decade (maybe D Murray becomes useful but he was bad overall last year despite flashes).

sixers78 wrote: But I thought they should have traded up a pick of two higher and taken Tyler Lydon or even OG.

No roster spots for either guy. Anzejs was the best of the stash players this year and that's exactly why we moved to get him--we can get some prospect value without having to take up a sport we need to give to a new FA (or maybe Korkmaz). We have 13 spots spoken for now (even after cutting Hendo), which leaves only 2 more for FAs or Korkmaz+FA.
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Post#49 » by LloydFree » Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:02 pm

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ankle420breaker wrote:Seems like he was on other GM's radars, otherwise I'm not sure we wouldve felt it necessary to move up to take him. Wouldn't surprise me if San Antonio had him targeted at 29. They've always been adept at finding value upside prospects with their later picks.
Not saying you're wrong but this narrative seems a little outdated. They've actually been like 1 for their last 15 picks. Stuck out on first rounders like Kyle Anderson, James Anderson, and Livio Jean Charles and haven't found anyone useful in the 2nd round in a long while. Cory Joseph's their only real rotation find over the last decade (maybe D Murray becomes useful but he was bad overall last year despite flashes).

sixers78 wrote: But I thought they should have traded up a pick of two higher and taken Tyler Lydon or even OG.

No roster spots for either guy. Anzejs was the best of the stash players this year and that's exactly why we moved to get him--we can get some prospect value without having to take up a sport we need to give to a new FA (or maybe Korkmaz). We have 13 spots spoken for now (even after cutting Hendo), which leaves only 2 more for FAs or Korkmaz+FA.

Struck out on Kyle Anderson? He'd be one of the top 6 players on the 76ers roster. That was a good late 20's pick.
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Post#50 » by sixers78 » Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:11 pm

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ankle420breaker wrote:Seems like he was on other GM's radars, otherwise I'm not sure we wouldve felt it necessary to move up to take him. Wouldn't surprise me if San Antonio had him targeted at 29. They've always been adept at finding value upside prospects with their later picks.
Not saying you're wrong but this narrative seems a little outdated. They've actually been like 1 for their last 15 picks. Stuck out on first rounders like Kyle Anderson, James Anderson, and Livio Jean Charles and haven't found anyone useful in the 2nd round in a long while. Cory Joseph's their only real rotation find over the last decade (maybe D Murray becomes useful but he was bad overall last year despite flashes).

sixers78 wrote: But I thought they should have traded up a pick of two higher and taken Tyler Lydon or even OG.

No roster spots for either guy. Anzejs was the best of the stash players this year and that's exactly why we moved to get him--we can get some prospect value without having to take up a sport we need to give to a new FA (or maybe Korkmaz). We have 13 spots spoken for now (even after cutting Hendo), which leaves only 2 more for FAs or Korkmaz+FA.


Create roster spots. embiid saric Simmons Fultz Cov Bayless Jah TJ Stinkas TLC Holmes

That's 11.

Potential trade? Wouldn't rule that out to open a spot or two. I get the stash euro/roster full. From that standpoint it makes sense. But I see some guys on this roster that should be expendable. Some of which I didnt bother listing.
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Post#51 » by HotelVitale » Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:24 pm

sixers78 wrote: Create roster spots. embiid saric Simmons Fultz Cov Bayless Jah TJ Stinkas TLC Holmes That's 11.
Potential trade? Wouldn't rule that out to open a spot or two. I get the stash euro/roster full. From that standpoint it makes sense. But I see some guys on this roster that should be expendable. Some of which I didnt bother listing.

There are 13 who are already under full contract for next season. I get the argument for dumping Anderson or Long but I'm not sure if Anderson+Anzejs (whom we now get to keep both of b/c/o the stash) are clearly inferior to the guys that were available at #25. I'd bet that at least a couple guys chosen 25-40 will end up better than both of them, but we'd only get to choose one and I don't think the odds are better that just one of them (say Bell or Kuzma or Evans) will be better than Anderson+Anzejs. Or at least it's close enough that I can't really fault BC & co for going that route instead of cutting Anderson/Long to clear a spot for one of the long shots at the end of the 1st.

LloydFree wrote: Struck out on Kyle Anderson? He'd be one of the top 6 players on the 76ers roster. That was a good late 20's pick.
Maybe struck out's too harsh but I don't think he's very good. Not good enough to contribute much on offense, and his advanced stats (which aren't that great) are all dependent on great defense numbers that I don't buy based on what I've seen of him. I could be wrong and dude might be the best help defender around (he is mad long), but I don't think he's a real player yet. He also turns 24 before this season starts.
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Post#52 » by 76ciology » Sat Jun 24, 2017 12:22 am

Maybe a back-up if Holmes asks for big money
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Post#53 » by 76ciology » Sat Jun 24, 2017 12:22 am

Btw, when is he coming over?
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Post#54 » by Unbreakable99 » Sat Jun 24, 2017 12:27 am

76ciology wrote:Btw, when is he coming over?


I think two years.
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Post#55 » by 76ciology » Sat Jun 24, 2017 12:52 am

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76ciology wrote:Btw, when is he coming over?


I think two years.


Yikes. Not worth it to me.

Sorry for being a downer but unless they see uncertainty with Holmes or Biid, I don't see why they should draft this guy.
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Post#56 » by Aussiepiston1 » Sat Jun 24, 2017 1:25 am

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Simmons is 7'0" if you forgot xD. And don't forget Bolden you just got in 2nd round. The league is moving away from bigs towards smaller lineups unless they're like Markkenen - mobile and shoots 3s.

Gosh Embiid/Saric/Simmons/Okafor/Holmes. That's a lot of trees on the court!



On a fifteen man roster, Golden State has two players shorter than 6'7--Steph Curry and Ian Clark. Last year, the same. The only two players shorter than 6'7 were Curry and Leandro Barbosa. Smallball does not mean eschewing size. It means practically everyone on the floor has guard skills and plays how guards used to. Lest we forget GS's small forward is seven-feet tall.

Pasecniks is 7'2 and handles the ball in a guard-like fashion. Makes him exciting.

Moreover, Okafor and Holmes can be traded and improved upon. Actually, they must be if we're serious about a chip.


I'm talking about TALL CENTERS. Not 6'7" guys.

Okafor couldn't fetch you a 1st rounder, Bolden and Holmes were both mocked and picked after Anzejs. He was considered at top 20 pick and BC grabbed him at #25 for a pick that might not even convey in the first round.
I like the gamble and have faith that he will develop into Kristaps lite type player who could be a back up stretch 4 or 5.
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Post#57 » by PhilasFinest » Sat Jun 24, 2017 1:58 am

76ciology wrote:
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76ciology wrote:Btw, when is he coming over?


I think two years.


Yikes. Not worth it to me.

Sorry for being a downer but unless they see uncertainty with Holmes or Biid, I don't see why they should draft this guy.


Gotta think worst case.

Embiid has played 31 games in 3 years, will be due an extension.
If Okafor continues to progress at his current level, he's likely gone in 2 years max.
Holmes will be coming off of a 2nd round rookie contract around that time as well....his price could potentially force you to let him walk via FA given the likely cost to keep our core intact.


This team wont be able to stay together forever. Ideally you keep your core together, but the TJ McConnell's/Richaun Holmes' could end up gone once there bargain contracts come to an end.

Keep stockpiling young players at various positions and down the line, you could have someone to fill a hole on the cheap.
Having a highly mobile and skilled 7'2" player developing overseas is never a bad thing. Imagine in 2 years this kid coming over with 20 lbs of muscle added to him on a rookie contract.
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Post#58 » by 76ciology » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:52 am

PhilasFinest wrote:
76ciology wrote:
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I think two years.


Yikes. Not worth it to me.

Sorry for being a downer but unless they see uncertainty with Holmes or Biid, I don't see why they should draft this guy.


Gotta think worst case.

Embiid has played 31 games in 3 years, will be due an extension.
If Okafor continues to progress at his current level, he's likely gone in 2 years max.
Holmes will be coming off of a 2nd round rookie contract around that time as well....his price could potentially force you to let him walk via FA given the likely cost to keep our core intact.


This team wont be able to stay together forever. Ideally you keep your core together, but the TJ McConnell's/Richaun Holmes' could end up gone once there bargain contracts come to an end.

Keep stockpiling young players at various positions and down the line, you could have someone to fill a hole on the cheap.
Having a highly mobile and skilled 7'2" player developing overseas is never a bad thing. Imagine in 2 years this kid coming over with 20 lbs of muscle added to him on a rookie contract.


He's 7'2, that mobility declines quickly as he age. Specially if he adds muscle. He's considered as a big short term help in 2019-2022. Maybe allows us to rest Embiid some games for the play-offs. Thats how I see it.
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Post#59 » by Ganji » Sat Jun 24, 2017 12:06 pm

Local TV did interview with Brett Brown & Bryan Colangelo



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Post#60 » by ankle420breaker » Sat Jun 24, 2017 1:01 pm

From Brett's interview I get the sense that he'll spend just one more year overseas before joining the team.

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