The 2017 NBA Draft Thread

[WizTom]

I wonder how many of us will be posting here after the draft this time next year?

Or, a better question is how many of us won't be posting?

Popular posters like Rico and fishercob have left. This is the deadest this bored as ever been since I've been on it. Ernie Grunfeld makes it boring, too.

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The list of posters who can't be bothered to participate is long. I don't blame them. The Wizards management is so bad it's actually depressing to follow their ineptitude year after miserable year.

How can so many worthy draft picks change hands and this team doesn't grab one or more? Especially with all the reasons to do so that have been outlined here by a bunch of relative "amateurs"? If there ever was a time to grab second-round picks, this was the year. With the new two-way contracts, a coming G League team, the proven 25+% of 2nd round picks who have become rotation quality players over the last 5 years or so, etc...

#FireEFG

#F@ckEFG&Ted

I'm out. They get no $$$ from me until management changes.

[dckingsfan]

I wonder how many of us will be posting here after the draft this time next year?

Or, a better question is how many of us won't be posting?

Popular posters like Rico and fishercob have left. This is the deadest this bored as ever been since I've been on it. Ernie Grunfeld makes it boring, too.

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The list of posters who can't be bothered to participate is long. I don't blame them. The Wizards management is so bad it's actually depressing to follow their ineptitude year after miserable year.

How can so many worthy draft picks change hands and this team doesn't grab one or more? Especially with all the reasons to do so that have been outlined here by a bunch of relative "amateurs"? If there ever was a time to grab second-round picks, this was the year. With the new two-way contracts, a coming G League team, the proven 25+% of 2nd round picks who have become rotation quality players over the last 5 years or so, etc...

#FireEFG

#F@ckEFG&Ted

I'm out. They get no $$$ from me until management changes.

To answer CCJ - I will still be posting - well at least to 10,000 posts

Tom, I have refused to go to see a Wizards game from a longtime - and won't do until EG is gone - but that is just me.

[payitforward]

I wonder how many of us will be posting here after the draft this time next year?

Or, a better question is how many of us won't be posting?

Popular posters like Rico and fishercob have left. This is the deadest this bored as ever been since I've been on it. Ernie Grunfeld makes it boring, too.

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DON'T LEAVE CCJ!

Hey, CCJ -- Ernie signed your guy Michael Young, right? Don't even think about leaving!!

Still, yes, he's an idiot -- & especially since he basically enabled NO to make some $$ on Tim Frazier (by selling the pick we traded for him) whom, obviously, they were planning to cut.

Now, lets see who makes a ripple in the league among the guys whom we might have drafted instead of paying for something that was about to be available free. My short (i.e. partial) list of guys with potential:

Nigel Williams-Goss (Went #55 -- I'd have picked him #52. I love his game. Next Seth Curry.)
Alec Peters (Went #54 -- for me he'd have been a close 2d to W-G -- I'll be surprised if he doesn't have a long NBA career.)
Kennedy Meeks (Went undrafted; has signed with the Raptors. Reminds me of Kyle O'Quinn -- don't see why he won't have a long career as a solid backup Center.)
Devin Robinson (Went undrafted. Hasn't been signed yet. He worked out for us, so maybe we will sign him for Summer & camp - could be worth it)

Why didn't we beat the Raps to Kennedy Meeks, tell me? Probably be in the league 10 years!!

You want to see why I like Williams-Goss so much? --

Watch on YouTube

&

Watch on YouTube

(watch at 4:29 -- kid's strong as an ox!).

Williams-Goss shoots extremely well off the dribble. He is very crafty, makes the game look simple, is a determined, smart defender. He also improved quite a lot his one year at Gonzaga.

[80sballboy]

I wonder how many of us will be posting here after the draft this time next year?

Or, a better question is how many of us won't be posting?

Popular posters like Rico and fishercob have left. This is the deadest this bored as ever been since I've been on it. Ernie Grunfeld makes it boring, too.

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DON'T LEAVE CCJ!

Hey, CCJ -- Ernie signed your guy Michael Young, right? Don't even think about leaving!!

Still, yes, he's an idiot -- & especially since he basically enabled NO to make some $$ on Tim Frazier (by selling the pick we traded for him) whom, obviously, they were planning to cut.

Now, lets see who makes a ripple in the league among the guys whom we might have drafted instead of paying for something that was about to be available free. My short (i.e. partial) list of guys with potential:

Nigel Williams-Goss (Went #55 -- I'd have picked him #52. I love his game. Next Seth Curry.)
Alec Peters (Went #54 -- for me he'd have been a close 2d to W-G -- I'll be surprised if he doesn't have a long NBA career.)
Kennedy Meeks (Went undrafted; has signed with the Raptors. Reminds me of Kyle O'Quinn -- don't see why he won't have a long career as a solid backup Center.)
Devin Robinson (Went undrafted. Hasn't been signed yet. He worked out for us, so maybe we will sign him for Summer & camp - could be worth it)

Why didn't we beat the Raps to Kennedy Meeks, tell me? Probably be in the league 10 years!!

You want to see why I like Williams-Goss so much? --

Watch on YouTube

&

Watch on YouTube

(watch at 4:29 -- kid's strong as an ox!).

Williams-Goss shoots extremely well off the dribble. He is very crafty, makes the game look simple, is a determined, smart defender. He also improved quite a lot his one year at Gonzaga.

I like Williams-Goss, but doesn't remind me of either Curry. A bit bigger and more rugged. Not as good a 3-point shooter but a nice playmaker. Meeks is a terrific rebounder. Devin Robinson was signed to the SL team. He's very athletic and very raw.

[DCZards]

There are undrafted guys who could turn out to be just as good or better than some of the guys drafted in the second round. Let’s hope the Zards can find a diamond in the rough (or two) among those undrafted players, like they seem to have done with Sheldon Mac.

Maybe that diamond-in-the-rough is CCJ’s guy Young. Or maybe Devin Robinson. I like the little that I've read about Robinson thus far. Certainly seems to have the NBA body.

[NatP4]

I don't think I could be any more upset at the way the draft went. Toronto drafted the best defender in the entire draft at 23 with potential to turn into an elite small ball center like Draymond Green. We put together the most underwhelming summer league team of all time with zero NBA talent outside of Mac and McCullough after not buying into the 2nd round(which every other team in the league did).

Literally nothing positive came out of last night, and how bout the kings draft? They are building something out there.

Also Miami is better than us easily

[NatP4]

You had a 5 star recruit/McDonald's all American that has shown elite scoring potential and flashes of elite defense that goes undrafted and is right there for the taking and we sign Kevin Pangos?

What the hell man

[dckingsfan]

There are undrafted guys who could turn out to be just as good or better than some of the guys drafted in the second round. Let’s hope the Zards can find a diamond in the rough (or two) among those undrafted players, like they seem to have done with Sheldon Mac.

Maybe that diamond-in-the-rough is CCJ’s guy Young. Or maybe Devin Robinson. I like the little that I've read about Robinson thus far. Certainly seems to have the NBA body.

Yep, kind of wondering which teams will benefit from them...

[80sballboy]

Explanations about why Wiz didn't trade into 2nd round or buy pick
http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/washington-wizards/wizards-may-not-have-wiggled-way-back-nba-draft-trade-or-buying-pick-had-plan

[nate33]

Lame excuses about why Wiz didn't trade into 2nd round or buy pick
http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/washington-wizards/wizards-may-not-have-wiggled-way-back-nba-draft-trade-or-buying-pick-had-plan

Fixed it for you.

[80sballboy]

Lame excuses about why Wiz didn't trade into 2nd round or buy pick
http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/washington-wizards/wizards-may-not-have-wiggled-way-back-nba-draft-trade-or-buying-pick-had-plan

Fixed it for you.

I know, I think comments like those show why he continues to take the "bullets" for Ted's cheap ways.

[Induveca]

Crazy that Philly has both Briscoe and Trimble on their summer league roster. Those guys were so highly touted just a few years ago, amazed they both went undrafted.

Neither have a standout skill, but Trimble certainly seems to have a place in the league. Briscoe is less certain, kid went to the combine with 13% body fat despite his knowledge that he had to turn some heads to get drafted.

[Dat2U]

Explanations about why Wiz didn't trade into 2nd round or buy pick
http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/washington-wizards/wizards-may-not-have-wiggled-way-back-nba-draft-trade-or-buying-pick-had-plan

I don't think the Wizards had any desire to buy a pick. They were clearly focused on guys that might fall out of draft. My guess is they'll end up picking another 3 undrafted guys out of training camp and stamp that as continued progress. Sheldon Mac has a chance of working out but I will be shocked if Ochefu or House ever make in the league or even to another NBA team.

[Dat2U]

Crazy that Philly has both Briscoe and Trimble on their summer league roster. Those guys were so highly touted just a few years ago, amazed they both went undrafted.

Neither have a standout skill, but Trimble certainly seems to have a place in the league. Briscoe is less certain, kid went to the combine with 13% body fat despite his knowledge that he had to turn some heads to get drafted.

I don't think either has a place in the league. Briscoe looks like one of those weekend warrior/church league types. He's a PF in an SG's body. His game clearly does not translate.

Trimble is simply not athletic or skilled enough. He's a streaky shooter who can't get all the way to the rim and can't defend anyone. I could see Trimble having a solid career overseas however.

[nate33]

Briscoe looks like one of those weekend warrior/church league types.

[AFM]

Mavericks got my favorite player in the draft.
Dennis Smith is going to be absolutely disgusting.
His skill set at age 16 was better than most NBA guards.

[I_Like_Dirt]

Excuses? Puh-lease. It was wing night! Do you expect him to pay attention to the draft and have a few pints and wings at the same time? Pfffft. Can't do both. The choice is obvious. And Ernie is paid to make all the decisions, tough or obvious.

[adarsh1]

I wonder how many of us will be posting here after the draft this time next year?

Or, a better question is how many of us won't be posting?

Popular posters like Rico and fishercob have left. This is the deadest this bored as ever been since I've been on it. Ernie Grunfeld makes it boring, too.

Sent from my Moto G (4) using RealGM mobile app

DON'T LEAVE CCJ!

Hey, CCJ -- Ernie signed your guy Michael Young, right? Don't even think about leaving!!

Still, yes, he's an idiot -- & especially since he basically enabled NO to make some $$ on Tim Frazier (by selling the pick we traded for him) whom, obviously, they were planning to cut.

Now, lets see who makes a ripple in the league among the guys whom we might have drafted instead of paying for something that was about to be available free. My short (i.e. partial) list of guys with potential:

Nigel Williams-Goss (Went #55 -- I'd have picked him #52. I love his game. Next Seth Curry.)
Alec Peters (Went #54 -- for me he'd have been a close 2d to W-G -- I'll be surprised if he doesn't have a long NBA career.)
Kennedy Meeks (Went undrafted; has signed with the Raptors. Reminds me of Kyle O'Quinn -- don't see why he won't have a long career as a solid backup Center.)
Devin Robinson (Went undrafted. Hasn't been signed yet. He worked out for us, so maybe we will sign him for Summer & camp - could be worth it)

Why didn't we beat the Raps to Kennedy Meeks, tell me? Probably be in the league 10 years!!

You want to see why I like Williams-Goss so much? --

Watch on YouTube

&

Watch on YouTube

(watch at 4:29 -- kid's strong as an ox!).

Williams-Goss shoots extremely well off the dribble. He is very crafty, makes the game look simple, is a determined, smart defender. He also improved quite a lot his one year at Gonzaga.

Agreed on Goss. He actually reminds me a bit of Garrett Temple.

[Ruzious]

It's telling that top teams with cap issues like GSW (Bell, McCaw) and LAC (Evans, Thornwell) see the value in spending money for cheap developmental talent. We're a middling team with cap issues that doesn't think outside the box. I really hate this front office's philosophy and approach.

As some of said, GSW nailed it yet again when they bought the 38th pick in the draft for 3.5 million and picked Jordan Bell - who I said is the closest thing to Draymond Green in the draft - even if he can't shoot yet. Well, Jordan Bell's final line the other night: 5 points, 11 rebounds, 5 assists, 5 steals, 6 blocks, 2/2 FG, +27 in a game his team lost. How many players can score just 5 points and steal the show like that? We don't have a player like that. They got him for cash that doesn't count against anything - and they're going to pay him the league minimum this season and next. And because of his D, they're saving millions that they would have paid for a veteran big.

[adarsh1]

Damn.