Miami HEAT Offseason/Trades/FA Thread: Sardine Central

[KingDavid]

Has he ever been used as a 3 p the shooter?

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He's tried to land some from downtown, just didn't work. He never made the adjustment as far as I know. If he had that range, he'd be shooting from there a lot more often.

He only been used twice as a 3 p the shooter other that that he randomly took a 3 pter. Portland used him one yr and he shot over 100 3s at 41%. Then the yr before last and he shot 35%. Otherwise he randomly took a 3 outside of the system.

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That isn't quite right. He shot 1.5 3s per game at 35% in his final year in Portland. That is not good.

He shot less than 1 three a game (0.8) and made less than 1 three a game (0.3) with the Spurs this year. That's less than 100 3s and it's the only time he's been at 41%. Both times are at laughable rates.

[twix2500]

If Heat miss out on a marquee player this summer then you may be looking at Dragic being put on the trading block again

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If Dragic is being traded we are tanking. That would be what the third year in a row we are a lottery team? Pat was thinking about being a GM from his Cali home... People would get fired...

Not necessarily, just remodeling. There is no draft pick next year. Before the Heat went on the run, Dragic was being shopped.

[batterybro42]

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If Heat miss out on a marquee player this summer then you may be looking at Dragic being put on the trading block again

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If Dragic is being traded we are tanking. That would be what the third year in a row we are a lottery team? Pat was thinking about being a GM from his Cali home... People would get fired...

We were a game away from the Eastern Conference finals two years ago, while carrying 25+ million in dead cap space (Bosh)

We had the best record and net rating the 2nd half of the season with 25+ million in dead space on our books

I am convinced the people pretending that our roster and team is some 5-8 seed simply tuned out after our bad start, and tuned back in to watch Waiters get hurt for us to slip back.

You didn't watch this team play if you think it's a mediocre team. Outside the big 3 era, it was some of the best basketball I've seen a Miami Heat team play, it was that good.

If you're going to talk bad about Pat Riley, at least get a grip of what you're talking about

[spectrec130]

I dont think that Pat considers him a max player. & because of that i dont believe that Pat has much interest in him unless its on a discount.


Those same people who are angry right now, are going to be even more angry after Pat resigns Dion, JJ, & not Hayward.

If that is all Miami can get done, basically the 41-41 record amounted to No Playoffs (Season) and No top 3 pick (draft) and no whale (FA), then yeah there are gonna be some angry ppl here and rightly so.

Just my opinion, but i believe that Pat thinks we are more like the 2nd half team, then the 1st. Ofcouse that also depends on injuries. But he looks like he will give this same team another shot. I also think he will bring in one, maybe 2 more rotation player. Another thing is it looks like he realy believes in Winslow. So i just hope that Winslows bad play to start the year was because of his arm injury. & thats what i am going to believe untill i see more of him.

If ur right on Riles, then Miami picks a project of a back-up PF/C and turns around to shell out multi-year deals to Dion and JJ. Then await the poison pill portion of TJ's contract to take hold..... LOL.... The SALT for some here will rival the Red Sea!

[twix2500]

He's tried to land some from downtown, just didn't work. He never made the adjustment as far as I know. If he had that range, he'd be shooting from there a lot more often.

He only been used twice as a 3 p the shooter other that that he randomly took a 3 pter. Portland used him one yr and he shot over 100 3s at 41%. Then the yr before last and he shot 35%. Otherwise he randomly took a 3 outside of the system.

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That isn't quite right. He shot 1.5 3s per game at 35% in his final year in Portland. That is not good.

He shot less than 1 three a game (0.8) and made less than 1 three a game (0.3) with the Spurs this year. That's less than 100 3s and it's the only time he's been at 41%. Both times are at laughable rates.

35% is not good?? So Chris Bosh was never a good 3 pt shooter in your book. He didnt stretch the floor? Ok, im not gonna try and prove to you. Ill let you hold that lonesome thought that Aldridge cant shoot.

[batterybro42]

If that is all Miami can get done, basically the 41-41 record amounted to No Playoffs (Season) and No top 3 pick (draft) and no whale (FA), then yeah there are gonna be some angry ppl here and rightly so.

Just my opinion, but i believe that Pat thinks we are more like the 2nd half team, then the 1st. Ofcouse that also depends on injuries. But he looks like he will give this same team another shot. I also think he will bring in one, maybe 2 more rotation player. Another thing is it looks like he realy believes in Winslow. So i just hope that Winslows bad play to start the year was because of his arm injury. & thats what i am going to believe untill i see more of him.

If ur right on Riles, then Miami picks a project of a back-up PF/C and turns around to shell out multi-year deals to Dion and JJ. Then await the poison pill portion of TJ's contract to take hold..... LOL.... The SALT for some here will rival the Red Sea!

Roster that features

Whiteside (28)
Mcgruder (25
Waiters (25)
Richardson (23)
Johnson (25)
Bam (19)
Winslow (21)

That had THE BEST NET RATING AND RECORD FOR THE 2ND HALF OF THE SEASON

Is so bad and has no room left to grow

Doesn't matter that we have all their bird rights

Blow it all up REEEEEEEE

How will Miami ever recover from shambleland?

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

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[leoshes]

If that is all Miami can get done, basically the 41-41 record amounted to No Playoffs (Season) and No top 3 pick (draft) and no whale (FA), then yeah there are gonna be some angry ppl here and rightly so.

Just my opinion, but i believe that Pat thinks we are more like the 2nd half team, then the 1st. Ofcouse that also depends on injuries. But he looks like he will give this same team another shot. I also think he will bring in one, maybe 2 more rotation player. Another thing is it looks like he realy believes in Winslow. So i just hope that Winslows bad play to start the year was because of his arm injury. & thats what i am going to believe untill i see more of him.

If ur right on Riles, then Miami picks a project of a back-up PF/C and turns around to shell out multi-year deals to Dion and JJ. Then await the poison pill portion of TJ's contract to take hold..... LOL.... The SALT for some here will rival the Red Sea!

If We start the season strong i could see Pat keeping him. If this team is underperforming by FEB, then he might lighten up the cap by trading him off, or try to trade for that player he realy likes. Even though he doesnt have any picks to add.

[KingDavid]

He only been used twice as a 3 p the shooter other that that he randomly took a 3 pter. Portland used him one yr and he shot over 100 3s at 41%. Then the yr before last and he shot 35%. Otherwise he randomly took a 3 outside of the system.

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That isn't quite right. He shot 1.5 3s per game at 35% in his final year in Portland. That is not good.

He shot less than 1 three a game (0.8) and made less than 1 three a game (0.3) with the Spurs this year. That's less than 100 3s and it's the only time he's been at 41%. Both times are at laughable rates.

35% is not good?? So Chris Bosh was never a good 3 pt shooter in your book. He didnt stretch the floor? Ok, im not gonna try and prove to you. Ill let you hold that lonesome thought that Aldridge cant shoot.

Twix, we can have a conversation man, I'm not going to attack you or anything, lol.

It's contextual. 35% on 1.5 attempts per game over a season isn't indicative of good shooting, imo. Chris Bosh attempted like four 3s and made 1.5 a game his last two playing years. That's spacing the floor.

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Why does Bam have to be a 3 point shooter? I rather him play closer to the rim for rebounding reasons. I am perfectly happy with him hitting shots from 15, to 18 feet out. It doesnt have to be 3 pointers.
I also see him as a back up C, not a PF, at least not just yet. He is simply the replacement for Reed who will get over $8mill from someone in my opinion.

[islandHEAT]

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Wiz
Hawks
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We just sat back and watched and we are already a 4-5 seed...

[Rapaz]

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As expected, Los Angeles Clippers forward Blake Griffin, a five-time All-Star forward, has exercised the early termination option on his contract and will become an unrestricted free agent, league sources told The Vertical.

Griffin is eligible for a $29.7 million starting salary with a new contract, which could be from a five-year, $172 million deal to stay with the Clippers or a four-year, $128 million contract with a new team.

Griffin, 28, is a cornerstone player for the Clippers, a priority for them to re-sign this summer. Boston, Houston and Miami are among multiple possible free-agent destinations for Griffin, who’ll also consider returning to the Clippers.

Griffin is one of the elite players on the summer marketplace and one of three Clippers – along with All-Star Chris Paul and guard J.J. Redick – who’ll become free agents.

Griffin was the No. 1 overall pick in the 2009 NBA draft and has played seven seasons for the Clippers, averaging 21.5 points, 9.4 rebounds and 4.1 assists per game.

[twix2500]

That isn't quite right. He shot 1.5 3s per game at 35% in his final year in Portland. That is not good.

He shot less than 1 three a game (0.8) and made less than 1 three a game (0.3) with the Spurs this year. That's less than 100 3s and it's the only time he's been at 41%. Both times are at laughable rates.

35% is not good?? So Chris Bosh was never a good 3 pt shooter in your book. He didnt stretch the floor? Ok, im not gonna try and prove to you. Ill let you hold that lonesome thought that Aldridge cant shoot.

Twix, we can have a conversation man, I'm not going to attack you or anything, lol.

It's contextual. 35% on 1.5 attempts per game over a season isn't indicative of good shooting, imo. Chris Bosh attempted like four 3s and made 1.5 a game his last two playing years. That's spacing the floor.

Spacing the floor means you can draw your defender from your teammate because they respect your ability to score at that spot instead of dropping back cheating. It doesnt mean you are an elite 3 point shooter or lives on the 3 point line. You can have bad floor spacing with shooters on the floor if they are all crowding up the 3 point line. So you saying Spurs had bad floor spacing because they had Duncan, and Parker etc.. You are using the term spacing wrong.... Depending on your offensive scheme you can contribute to spacing as a midrange shooter or even as a low post player.

[SpacelyH]

Celts
Cavs
Raps
Wiz
Hawks
Bucs
Pacers
Bulls

We just sat back and watched and we are already a 4-5 seed...

Pacers and Bulls definitely aren't making the playoffs so thats two more teams down

[KingDavid]

35% is not good?? So Chris Bosh was never a good 3 pt shooter in your book. He didnt stretch the floor? Ok, im not gonna try and prove to you. Ill let you hold that lonesome thought that Aldridge cant shoot.

Twix, we can have a conversation man, I'm not going to attack you or anything, lol.

It's contextual. 35% on 1.5 attempts per game over a season isn't indicative of good shooting, imo. Chris Bosh attempted like four 3s and made 1.5 a game his last two playing years. That's spacing the floor.

Spacing the floor means you can draw your defender from your teammate because they respect your ability to score at that spot instead of dropping back cheating. It doesnt mean you are an elite 3 point shooter or lives on the 3 point line. You can have bad floor spacing with shooters on the floor if they are all crowding up the 3 point line. So you saying Spurs had bad floor spacing because they had Duncan, and Parker etc.. You are using the term spacing wrong.... Depending on your offensive scheme you can contribute to spacing as a midrange shooter or even as a low post player.

But now the conversations shifts to Tim Duncan and Kawhi Leonard vs Hassan Whiteside and Justise Winslow as frontcourt mates. The spacing works in Pop's system with the players he has. Even Pau provides more spacing than than Hassan and Winslow. When Bosh was our small ball 5, it worked because LeBron and Battier were his frontcourt mates. Hassan and Justise don't provide that spacing.

Aldridge wouldn't fit well next to Hassan and Justise. 2 of 3 in the frontcourt need to be able to provide spacing in today's NBA.

[KingDavid]

Aw crap. Blake, Hayward, George all to Boston? No depth though and they'd have to skin that roster thin to afford them all I think.

[spectrec130]

Just my opinion, but i believe that Pat thinks we are more like the 2nd half team, then the 1st. Ofcouse that also depends on injuries. But he looks like he will give this same team another shot. I also think he will bring in one, maybe 2 more rotation player. Another thing is it looks like he realy believes in Winslow. So i just hope that Winslows bad play to start the year was because of his arm injury. & thats what i am going to believe untill i see more of him.

If ur right on Riles, then Miami picks a project of a back-up PF/C and turns around to shell out multi-year deals to Dion and JJ. Then await the poison pill portion of TJ's contract to take hold..... LOL.... The SALT for some here will rival the Red Sea!

If We start the season strong i could see Pat keeping him. If this team is underperforming by FEB, then he might lighten up the cap by trading him off, or try to trade for that player he realy likes. Even though he doesnt have any picks to add.

Hope ur right about this. Miami still has it's 1st top 7 protected in a good draft. So there's always hope with that.

But when that contract was initially reported, that was an eye opener for me but figured the increase in the salary cap would nullify it's impact but now seeing the number regress makes it a potential albatross in my book. Especially if you consider the reason behind the decrease of the cap, the low number of playoff games. Spurs really need to improve along with Celts in order to give GSW and Cleve a run for their money to get those numbers going in the right direction.....

[Mos_Heat]

Aw crap. Blake, Hayward, George all to Boston? No depth though and they'd have to skin that roster thin to afford them all I think.

i don't think they can do it

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[Cmon_Son-_-]

Why does Bam have to be a 3 point shooter? I rather him play closer to the rim for rebounding reasons. I am perfectly happy with him hitting shots from 15, to 18 feet out. It doesnt have to be 3 pointers.
I also see him as a back up C, not a PF, at least not just yet. He is simply the replacement for Reed who will get over $8mill from someone in my opinion.

Spacing. If he was simply a replacement for reed we wouldn't have drafted him.

[spectrec130]

Aw crap. Blake, Hayward, George all to Boston? No depth though and they'd have to skin that roster thin to afford them all I think.

i don't think they can do it

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So Tatum is coming to Miami