Trade & Free Agency Ideas & Discussion 2

[Puff]

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I have no idea why we would not at least talk to this guy. He is 27, the same age as Bledsoe. Most of our roster is 21 or under.

I would love watching our fast breaks. Can you imagine trying to defend Chriss, Griffin and Jackson coming at you.

It could be insane fun basketball to watch.

If it is just a free agent signing, just do it. If it is a sign and trade and it would cost us any or our youngsters, just say no.

[bwgood77]

Someone mentioned McD saying JJ not working out for Boston had to do with us. Is there a link/video somewhere of a McD interview? I haven't found it

Yes, I actually just watched that part for the second time, because I was looking for the second interview with the rookies, and clicked in the middle of this one...and it landed on that part. Whole thing is probably worth watching though. I think it's about 10 minutes in though..not sure...

http://www.nba.com/suns/Now

[bwoolf2]

even money kobi simmons gets a summer league invite.

Memphis signed him

That was fast....

No PGs for summer league... or..... did we draft our Point Forward ?

Reed will be running point in summer would be my guess and they will bring in someone off the streets to back him up. They had him running point in the 5v5 sessions during the workouts.

[Qwigglez]

Not sure why everyone is against getting a quality veteran. Maybe some of you don't realize, but we have to reach the salary floor minimum. I'd prefer not to use the cap space on some washed up vet like Andre Iguadala, someone that is just going to sit on the bench and be another mentor. I'd prefer not to use the cap space on our own restricted free agents (Williams/Len). I expect us to reach a deal with Warren by the end of summer, and possibly with Williams or Len and then next off-season we won't have as much cap space. Then next summer Booker will get his max contract which won't start til 2019-20 season. So we are using all our cap space on the team that won 24 games, praying everyone reaches their potential.

It's a slippery slope to just put all our eggs in one basket and hope year after year we strike gold in the draft.

But if that's your concern, how is spending cap money now on a veteran and still having to resign Williams or Len and then max Booker next summer? That would just put us over the cap with a slightly better bad team, wouldn't it?

It's more about starting a winning culture. I feel if we lose for 3-4 years in a row, the young guys may not even care about winning. They may only care for a pay check. Perhaps winning now can keep them focused in the long run. I don't feel we are that far away from being a playoff team too BTW. Especially if Clippers blow up, Hayward leaves the Jazz, Grizzlies getting older.
Also feel like if we had some kind of post game, that would open up the floor for Booker, Bledsoe, and even Jackson. You can revolve an offense around a player like LMA, and I feel we have a group of guys that can work well together with him.

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[alldayeveryday]

Someone mentioned McD saying JJ not working out for Boston had to do with us. Is there a link/video somewhere of a McD interview? I haven't found it

Yes, I actually just watched that part for the second time, because I was looking for the second interview with the rookies, and clicked in the middle of this one...and it landed on that part. Whole thing is probably worth watching though. I think it's about 10 minutes in though..not sure...

http://www.nba.com/suns/Now

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[Kjdills13]

BLOCKBUSTER

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybm6up7q


Suns - Noah , porzingis

KNicks- Bledsoe, Bender, suns first 18, celtics first 18

Pacers- crowder , zeller, chriss

Celtics- Paul George


Suns then go out and try and sign Chris Paul or lowry


Paul
Booker
Jackson
Porzingis
Chandler

Gives us the youth we need but this team could compete now and set us up for the future at the same time, Paul/ chandler are good friends and could bring there pick and roll back, then porzingis provides court spacing, Jackson would be our defender of the wings, then Paul and chandler are both good defenders


Make it happen

[bwgood77]

Not sure why everyone is against getting a quality veteran. Maybe some of you don't realize, but we have to reach the salary floor minimum. I'd prefer not to use the cap space on some washed up vet like Andre Iguadala, someone that is just going to sit on the bench and be another mentor. I'd prefer not to use the cap space on our own restricted free agents (Williams/Len). I expect us to reach a deal with Warren by the end of summer, and possibly with Williams or Len and then next off-season we won't have as much cap space. Then next summer Booker will get his max contract which won't start til 2019-20 season. So we are using all our cap space on the team that won 24 games, praying everyone reaches their potential.

It's a slippery slope to just put all our eggs in one basket and hope year after year we strike gold in the draft.

But if that's your concern, how is spending cap money now on a veteran and still having to resign Williams or Len and then max Booker next summer? That would just put us over the cap with a slightly better bad team, wouldn't it?

It's more about starting a winning culture. I feel if we lose for 3-4 years in a row, the young guys may not even care about winning. They may only care for a pay check. Perhaps winning now can keep them focused in the long run. I don't feel we are that far away from being a playoff team too BTW. Especially if Clippers blow up, Hayward leaves the Jazz, Grizzlies getting older.
Also feel like if we had some kind of post game, that would open up the floor for Booker, Bledsoe, and even Jackson. You can revolve an offense around a player like LMA, and I feel we have a group of guys that can work well together with him.

Biggest reason I wouldn't want a guy like Aldridge of Millsap is because I want Chriss and Bender to have every chance to have the minutes to get better. The sooner that happens, the sooner this team becomes really good. You block, that, you set them back, with a vet leading players who are not ready, trying to make the playoffs, and we probably wouldn't, and even if we did we go nowhere, and Chriss and Bender don't get the proper on court development time, and then they never develop.

The clock ticks with these rookie contracts. You want those high picks playing as much as they can, so they improve and we know what we have. I don't know if Len would have done better if we hadn't ever signed Tyson, but there's probably a good chance he does. But we already have TWO PFs we drafted last year who need that time, plus a vet in Dudley...who is the perfect vet along with Tyson to have on the team.

I'm not against signing vets, but if we do, I'd sign a vet PG. I saw Calderon mentioned. I used to like him and I don't know how he is as a mentor or whatever, but someone like that or another vet PG were available might make sense...not so much for minutes, but for 3rd string...someone who used to be a starter that is hanging around...someone that played the right way. It could help if we do trade Bledsoe.

[BobbieL]

But if that's your concern, how is spending cap money now on a veteran and still having to resign Williams or Len and then max Booker next summer? That would just put us over the cap with a slightly better bad team, wouldn't it?

It's more about starting a winning culture. I feel if we lose for 3-4 years in a row, the young guys may not even care about winning. They may only care for a pay check. Perhaps winning now can keep them focused in the long run. I don't feel we are that far away from being a playoff team too BTW. Especially if Clippers blow up, Hayward leaves the Jazz, Grizzlies getting older.
Also feel like if we had some kind of post game, that would open up the floor for Booker, Bledsoe, and even Jackson. You can revolve an offense around a player like LMA, and I feel we have a group of guys that can work well together with him.

Biggest reason I wouldn't want a guy like Aldridge of Millsap is because I want Chriss and Bender to have every chance to have the minutes to get better. The sooner that happens, the sooner this team becomes really good. You block, that, you set them back, with a vet leading players who are not ready, trying to make the playoffs, and we probably wouldn't, and even if we did we go nowhere, and Chriss and Bender don't get the proper on court development time, and then they never develop.

The clock ticks with these rookie contracts. You want those high picks playing as much as they can, so they improve and we know what we have. I don't know if Len would have done better if we hadn't ever signed Tyson, but there's probably a good chance he does. But we already have TWO PFs we drafted last year who need that time, plus a vet in Dudley...who is the perfect vet along with Tyson to have on the team.

I'm not against signing vets, but if we do, I'd sign a vet PG. I saw Calderon mentioned. I used to like him and I don't know how he is as a mentor or whatever, but someone like that or another vet PG were available might make sense...not so much for minutes, but for 3rd string...someone who used to be a starter that is hanging around...someone that played the right way. It could help if we do trade Bledsoe.

I am actually fine rolling with Duds and Chandler. Just saying, since Gambo mentions Millsap - that for me, LMA for Dudley if the Spurs wanted to clear the cap - I think works better.

Dudley works for the Spurs
Aldridge is two years and done - and he would allow the young guys plenty of chance to play and grow

[ATTL]

I think management may want a competitive team for the 50th anniversary. I dont doubt the Millsap talk given how much Earl loves him or the Blake talk given how much Blake likes Scottsdale cougars.

[Phystic]

Someone mentioned McD saying JJ not working out for Boston had to do with us. Is there a link/video somewhere of a McD interview? I haven't found it

Yes, I actually just watched that part for the second time, because I was looking for the second interview with the rookies, and clicked in the middle of this one...and it landed on that part. Whole thing is probably worth watching though. I think it's about 10 minutes in though..not sure...

http://www.nba.com/suns/Now

Awesome, thank you kind sir. I will watch this right now

EDIT: I only see Q&As with the new rookies like random trivia?

[bwgood77]

Someone mentioned McD saying JJ not working out for Boston had to do with us. Is there a link/video somewhere of a McD interview? I haven't found it

Yes, I actually just watched that part for the second time, because I was looking for the second interview with the rookies, and clicked in the middle of this one...and it landed on that part. Whole thing is probably worth watching though. I think it's about 10 minutes in though..not sure...

http://www.nba.com/suns/Now

Awesome, thank you kind sir. I will watch this right now

EDIT: I only see Q&As with the new rookies like random trivia?

Is it not right on the front page in this link? It is for me but it says "Watch it Again"

I assume it would be there for you too if you didn't watch it.

http://www.nba.com/suns/suns-draft-2017

I mean for all this stuff, suns.com is the best place to check.

[Phystic]

Yes, I actually just watched that part for the second time, because I was looking for the second interview with the rookies, and clicked in the middle of this one...and it landed on that part. Whole thing is probably worth watching though. I think it's about 10 minutes in though..not sure...

http://www.nba.com/suns/Now

Awesome, thank you kind sir. I will watch this right now

EDIT: I only see Q&As with the new rookies like random trivia?

Is it not right on the front page in this link? It is for me but it says "Watch it Again"

I assume it would be there for you too if you didn't watch it.

http://www.nba.com/suns/suns-draft-2017

I mean for all this stuff, suns.com is the best place to check.

THe first 3 videos were Q&As with the rookies. I found the introductory press conference for them and McD kind of touched on it but can't find what he originally said about it. He danced around it seemed like he regretted whatever he said.

[bwgood77]

Awesome, thank you kind sir. I will watch this right now

EDIT: I only see Q&As with the new rookies like random trivia?

Is it not right on the front page in this link? It is for me but it says "Watch it Again"

I assume it would be there for you too if you didn't watch it.

http://www.nba.com/suns/suns-draft-2017

I mean for all this stuff, suns.com is the best place to check.

THe first 3 videos were Q&As with the rookies. I found the introductory press conference for them and McD kind of touched on it but can't find what he originally said about it. He danced around it seemed like he regretted whatever he said.

Did you watch the twitter video from alldayeveryday above? That's the only thing I'm trying to link you to is the press conference with players...that's the part where he talks about it. As for saying something before that, I think they referred to a radio interview this morning. I don't know anything about that or what he said. There is also a Celtics fan calling foul on the GB and there are a bunch of quotes in there...maybe some are from the radio show.

[bwgood77]

I think management may want a competitive team for the 50th anniversary. I dont doubt the Millsap talk given how much Earl loves him or the Blake talk given how much Blake likes Scottsdale cougars.

I think we will be fairly competitive as is. I don't know that it will translate into a lot of wins, which is fine, because it will make them work harder next offseason and we add one more guy...if not one of those top guys (Doncic, Ayton, Porter, Bamba) then maybe best PG or SG to back up Booker. I expect Reed to do that but if not.

[Mulhollanddrive]

Do you really want to be paying Millsap $35m when Booker needs a Max?

[Phystic]

Is it not right on the front page in this link? It is for me but it says "Watch it Again"

I assume it would be there for you too if you didn't watch it.

http://www.nba.com/suns/suns-draft-2017

I mean for all this stuff, suns.com is the best place to check.

THe first 3 videos were Q&As with the rookies. I found the introductory press conference for them and McD kind of touched on it but can't find what he originally said about it. He danced around it seemed like he regretted whatever he said.

Did you watch the twitter video from alldayeveryday above? That's the only thing I'm trying to link you to is the press conference with players...that's the part where he talks about it. As for saying something before that, I think they referred to a radio interview this morning. I don't know anything about that or what he said. There is also a Celtics fan calling foul on the GB and there are a bunch of quotes in there...maybe some are from the radio show.

Oh. well then ya I heard that part of the press conference. Curious what he originally said on the radio that got him bit nervous.

I'll look up the GB thread.

[BobbieL]

Do you really want to be paying Millsap $35m when Booker needs a Max?

Umm hell no. That's the thing about signing this "PF" type player - Millsap. Blake Griffin. They are going to want long years, big dollars. As it is now, Chandler and Dudley are off the books in 2019. The summer that Booker can be a FA. So, if you don't do anything with those two - that's good timing. Granted, Chriss and Bender are one year later after Knight comes off

Millsap will be three years - probably $70m

Blake is going to be like 5/125 or whatever

To me, if the Suns do something has to be a two year deal maybe three years - expires so they will have cap space when these deals come to fruition. I still like my Dudley for LMA deal - but not sure 10m helps the Spurs enough without having to stretch Parker

Just looking at the Hawks: Knight and Len S&T for Millsaps and filler... three year deal for Paul

Dedmon might be an option at Center - granted, already have Chandler Len and Sauce

[bwoolf2]

Do you really want to be paying Millsap $35m when Booker needs a Max?

Umm hell no. That's the thing about signing this "PF" type player - Millsap. Blake Griffin. They are going to want long years, big dollars. As it is now, Chandler and Dudley are off the books in 2019. The summer that Booker can be a FA. So, if you don't do anything with those two - that's good timing. Granted, Chriss and Bender are one year later after Knight comes off

Millsap will be three years - probably $70m

Blake is going to be like 5/125 or whatever

To me, if the Suns do something has to be a two year deal maybe three years - expires so they will have cap space when these deals come to fruition. I still like my Dudley for LMA deal - but not sure 10m helps the Spurs enough without having to stretch Parker

Just looking at the Hawks: Knight and Len S&T for Millsaps and filler... three year deal for Paul

Dedmon might be an option at Center - granted, already have Chandler Len and Sauce

Why do people want to take away playing time from Chriss Bender and Jackson, when it was so clear that the playing time helped Chriss grow by leaps and bounds compared to him sitting on the bench. I just don't get it not a single one of those guys gets us more than 5 more wins maybe 7 at best and fighting for an 8th seed and takes away any flexibility we have if a great trade opportunity were to come up where we need to absorb contracts. Let the Kids Play!

[RaisingArizona]

RENEW MCD!

[carey]

Reed will be running point in summer would be my guess and they will bring in someone off the streets to back him up. They had him running point in the 5v5 sessions during the workouts.

They will probably let Joe Jackson run the point. http://gleague.nba.com/player/joe-jackson/