CSKA Moscow Offers Milos Teodosic Equal of NBA 5 Year $62.5 Million Contract

[Porz]

the worst end of the stick got the Philippines.

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that would be a mistake for both Bulls and Teodosic.

???

[Mirotic12]

Spanoulis played a season in the NBA and averaged less than 3 points.

Patrick Beverley was the 3rd string point guard on Spanoulis' EuroLeague team (Olympiacos). Beverley's amazing performance in EuroLeague with Olympiacos...


http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=001927&seasoncode=E2009

2.7 points and 0.6 assists per game.

In the same team, where Spanoulis was always the lead player. Yet Beverley in Houston became a starter.

Beverley got ample chances in both Olympiacos and Houston.

Spanoulis only got a chance in Olympiacos.

Unless you think that all 3rd string EuroLeague point guards should be starters in the NBA.....

[slothrop8]

Spanoulis played a season in the NBA and averaged less than 3 points.

Patrick Beverley was the 3rd string point guard on Spanoulis' EuroLeague team (Olympiacos). Beverley's amazing performance in EuroLeague with Olympiacos...


http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=001927&seasoncode=E2009

2.7 points and 0.6 assists per game.

In the same team, where Spanoulis was always the lead player. Yet Beverley in Houston became a starter.

Beverley got ample chances in both Olympiacos and Houston.

Spanoulis only got a chance in Olympiacos.

Unless you think that all 3rd string EuroLeague point guards should be starters in the NBA.....

Beverley got 9 minutes per game in Euroleague and used it to shoot 51.4% - that's a very generous definition of "ample chances"

Spanoulis got 9 minutes per game in the NBA and used it to shoot 31.9%.

[TMU]

We talking about Greek T-Mac? What a joke the guy was.

[Mirotic12]

Beverley got 9 minutes per game in Euroleague and used it to shoot 51.4% - that's a very generous definition of "ample chances"

Spanoulis got 9 minutes per game in the NBA and used it to shoot 31.9%.

I believe it was on the Raptors forum where you were bragging about how well Erick Green was doing in the EuroLeague, and how that proved that any average D-League player could be one of the best players in EuroLeague....

Erick Green has already been cut by Olympiacos this off season. They dropped him from his last year of his contract, paid his buyout and replaced him with another player, citing that he "didn't perform up to the clubs's standards".

[slothrop8]

Beverley got 9 minutes per game in Euroleague and used it to shoot 51.4% - that's a very generous definition of "ample chances"

Spanoulis got 9 minutes per game in the NBA and used it to shoot 31.9%.

I believe it was on the Raptors forum where you were bragging about how well Erick Green was doing in the EuroLeague, and how that proved that any average D-League player could be one of the best players in EuroLeague....

Erick Green has already been cut by Olympiacos this off season. They dropped him from his last year of his contract, paid his buyout and replaced him with another player, citing that he "didn't perform up to the clubs's standards".

Interesting choice by them given his performance compared to that of Spanoulis in the Greek Finals. I can't help if teams make poor decisions.

[Mirotic12]

Interesting choice by them given his performance compared to that of Spanoulis in the Greek Finals. I can't help if teams make poor decisions.

Yeah, maybe if you deny reality.

Like the fact that Spanoulis had a very severe illness and was in the hospital during the finals. Missed the 2nd game, and was supposed to miss the whole series. But they had a bunch of injuries, so he had to play. He was severely ill for the last 3 games of the series, and was on very heavy antibiotics, getting an intravenous drip even right before games.

What was Green's excuse for playing so badly? Considering he was perfectly healthy.

[slothrop8]

Interesting choice by them given his performance compared to that of Spanoulis in the Greek Finals. I can't help if teams make poor decisions.

Yeah, maybe if you deny reality.

Like the fact that Spanoulis had a very severe illness and was in the hospital during the finals. Missed the 2nd game, and was supposed to miss the whole series. But they had a bunch of injuries, so he had to play. He was severely ill for the last 3 games of the series, and was on very heavy antibiotics, getting an intravenous drip even right before games.

What was Green's excuse for playing so badly? Considering he was perfectly healthy.

Seems no excuse is needed as the team they were playing in he finals is already lining up to sign him - seems they perceived Green to have been playing well. Seems like a rather poor decision by Spanoulis to elect to play at all if his level of play was going to be so horrific. Seems he and the team both made a series of poor decisons, which again is beyond my and Green's control.

[Maf]

I don't think it is good move for Teodosič to move to NBA. Not because lack of skills. Simly that he is used to be the leader who everyone follows for so many years. With his hot head he might strugle really hard with some young buck who thinks he knows everything.

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http://www.politika.rs/scc/clanak/383531/Sport/Kosarka/Teodosic-na-korak-do-Jute

According to this, their sources are saying that Utah, and not Chicago is the most likely destination for Teodosic. He has links to both Quin Snyder and Igor Kokoskov(Jazz Assistant coach)

[UcanUwill]

http://www.politika.rs/scc/clanak/383531/Sport/Kosarka/Teodosic-na-korak-do-Jute

According to this, their sources are saying that Utah, and not Chicago is the most likely destination for Teodosic. He has links to both Quin Snyder and Igor Kokoskov(Jazz Assistant coach)

That would be a better fit.

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[Collymore]

The euroleague is pathetic. End of story.

[NO-KG-AI]

Would love to have this guy on the Pels :/

[UcanUwill]

Would love to have this guy on the Pels :/

Same here. Perfect fit.

[Mirotic12]

Seems no excuse is needed as the team they were playing in he finals is already lining up to sign him - seems they perceived Green to have been playing well. Seems like a rather poor decision by Spanoulis to elect to play at all if his level of play was going to be so horrific. Seems he and the team both made a series of poor decisons, which again is beyond my and Green's control.

Panathinaikos or any other team signing him has nothing to do with the fact he was cut for poor play. Which opposes your assertion that he was playing well and was proof any average D-League player can do well in EuroLeague. Because Green was a superstar in D-League, and barely average in EuroLeague.

Also, Panathinaikos probably has no interest in signing him. Sure, it's possible, but you obviously don't know about the politics and rivals in EuroLeague. They always "offer a contract" to every single Olympiacos player every single summer.

It's a game, designed to try to break the team apart, cause strife in the team, make distractions in the media, and to drive up the budget costs of Olympiacos. Everyone that follows EuroLeague knows that.

The owner of Panathinaikos has been threatening Olympiacos player Vangelis Mantzaris all summer long, with actual threats in social media - all because he claims he "agreed to sign with them", when he didn't. The same thing happens with 3-4 players every summer from Olympiacos.

Panathinaikos owner claiming all kinds of things about Kostas Slouaks (former Olympiacos player) this summer, etc.

It's the craziest rivalry in the world, and Panathinaikos has the sleaziest owner in the sports world...sure, maybe they like Green or would sign him, but they say the same of every single Olympiacos player, as nothing more than cheap media games.

As for Spanoulis making a bad decision to play when sick - as I said, Olympiacos had a whole bunch of injuries. Daniel Hackett, their main point guard, and Matt Lojeski, their main small forward, were both out with injuries, missing the EuroLeague playoffs, EuroLeague Final Four, and Greek League playoffs.

The team had major injury issues and was tired. Their 16th man (Toliopoulos), had to even be used at times. They were playing Dominic Waters, their 3rd string point guard, and Dimitris Agravanis, their 3rd string power forward, in every game....

Spanoulis had no choice but to play, because of the team's injury situation. If you actually watch EuroLeague, and knew these things, rather than just looked at box scores and decided you know everything from box scores, you would have known that.

[21/20/10/8]

Yeah, maybe if you deny reality.

Like the fact that Spanoulis had a very severe illness and was in the hospital during the finals. Missed the 2nd game, and was supposed to miss the whole series. But they had a bunch of injuries, so he had to play. He was severely ill for the last 3 games of the series, and was on very heavy antibiotics, getting an intravenous drip even right before games.

What was Green's excuse for playing so badly? Considering he was perfectly healthy.

Seems no excuse is needed as the team they were playing in he finals is already lining up to sign him - seems they perceived Green to have been playing well. Seems like a rather poor decision by Spanoulis to elect to play at all if his level of play was going to be so horrific. Seems he and the team both made a series of poor decisons, which again is beyond my and Green's control.

Panathinaikos or any other team signing him has nothing to do with the fact he was cut for poor play. Which opposes your assertion that he was playing well and was proof any average D-League player can do well in EuroLeague. Because Green was a superstar in D-League, and barely

HAHAHA... you are still with this?

God, you have no life if you are still riding that NBA rejects nuts after all these years...

[slothrop8]

Seems no excuse is needed as the team they were playing in he finals is already lining up to sign him - seems they perceived Green to have been playing well. Seems like a rather poor decision by Spanoulis to elect to play at all if his level of play was going to be so horrific. Seems he and the team both made a series of poor decisons, which again is beyond my and Green's control.

Panathinaikos or any other team signing him has nothing to do with the fact he was cut for poor play. Which opposes your assertion that he was playing well and was proof any average D-League player can do well in EuroLeague. Because Green was a superstar in D-League, and barely average in EuroLeague.

Also, Panathinaikos probably has no interest in signing him. Sure, it's possible, but you obviously don't know about the politics and rivals in EuroLeague. They always "offer a contract" to every single Olympiacos player every single summer.

It's a game, designed to try to break the team apart, cause strife in the team, make distractions in the media, and to drive up the budget costs of Olympiacos. Everyone that follows EuroLeague knows that.

The owner of Panathinaikos has been threatening Olympiacos player Vangelis Mantzaris all summer long, with actual threats in social media - all because he claims he "agreed to sign with them", when he didn't. The same thing happens with 3-4 players every summer from Olympiacos.

Panathinaikos owner claiming all kinds of things about Kostas Slouaks (former Olympiacos player) this summer, etc.

It's the craziest rivalry in the world, and Panathinaikos has the sleaziest owner in the sports world...sure, maybe they like Green or would sign him, but they say the same of every single Olympiacos player, as nothing more than cheap media games.

As for Spanoulis making a bad decision to play when sick - as I said, Olympiacos had a whole bunch of injuries. Daniel Hackett, their main point guard, and Matt Lojeski, their main small forward, were both out with injuries, missing the EuroLeague playoffs, EuroLeague Final Four, and Greek League playoffs.

The team had major injury issues and was tired. Their 16th man (Toliopoulos), had to even be used at times. They were playing Dominic Waters, their 3rd string point guard, and Dimitris Agravanis, their 3rd string power forward, in every game....

Spanoulis had no choice but to play, because of the team's injury situation. If you actually watch EuroLeague, and knew these things, rather than just looked at box scores and decided you know everything from box scores, you would have known that.

Who knows what Olympiacos are doing, but it's apparent that poor play is not likely the actual reason considering Green's success and Pana immediately lining up to sign him. Perhaps it was embarrassing for them to have him so badly outshine their star domestic player Spanoulis in the playoffs. Regardless, we don't need to debate it - it will become apparent when he's starring for the next Euroleague team to sign him.

[Mirotic12]

Who knows what Olympiacos are doing, but it's apparent that poor play is not likely the actual reason considering Green's success and Pana immediately lining up to sign him. Perhaps it was embarrassing for them to have him so badly outshine their star domestic player Spanoulis in the playoffs. Regardless, we don't need to debate it - it will become apparent when he's starring for the next Euroleague team to sign him.

Green played awful in 3 of the 5 games in the Greek League finals...

You keep arguing that a guy (Green) with these numbers was playing great, and was basically the team's best player in EuroLeague and Greek League. Just because you want to keep making the assertion that any good D-League player can do well in EuroLeague.


Erick Green's stats in EuroLeague:

http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=005159&seasoncode=E2016

9.9 points
1.9 rebounds
0.9 assists


Erick Green's stats in Greek League:

http://widgets.baskethotel.com/site/esake/player/5324997/

9.4 points
2.2 rebounds
1.5 assists

In no way, would any EuroLeague team consider that an acceptable performance from a regular rotation player making a large salary....I don't even think teams like Red Star and Zalgiris would consider that satisfactory.

And for sure, a team like Panathinaikos definitely would not. You keep talking up a barely average EuroLeague player (when you add in that he's too small to really guard anyone at shooting guard), claiming he was the best in a team that made the finals....it's simply untrue and totally false.

And yes, any reasonable coach is going to find 0.9 assists in 21 minutes a game average in EuroLeague unacceptable for a guy that was signed with supposedly the ability to play point guard.

And Green averaged 27/4/4 in D-League, which also shows your assertion that D-League is basically the same level as EuroLeague, just isn't true.

[yannisk]

As an Olympiakos fan I watched a lot of Green this year and I am glad that Olympiakos cut him. Erick cannot create for other players, he is not a bad scorer with his best attribute being his 3p shot. He is an undersized sg that takes a huge amount of bad midrange shots of the dribble.

He was not a great pair with Spanoulis since neither is a good defender. When he was playing without Spanoulis the team did not have any creativity (ok that is also a fault of the other guards)

Now regarding the finals the team run out of energy. This was the longest season in euroleague, and they had many injuries that forced some key players to play too many minutes for their age/condition