Official: Jimmy Butler, #16 to Minnesota for Lavine, Dunn, #7 - merged/Justin Patton injured

[bennjuiced34]

Seriously, where's Bullslas at?

I'm right here. Bulls flat out lied to Jimmy about not being traded. As of 3pm yesterday, Jimmy was told he had nothing to worry about.

Oh well. I was wrong, Jimmy got traded and the rest of the league players are trashing the Bulls today and it won't stop until the 2 guys and the coach are gone. I wasn't a Jimmy fan but the Bulls absolutely played Jimmy.

Trashing the Bulls about what though? The trade? Well that's stupid. Because it wasn't a bad trade.

Now, they wanna trash them for **** this thing up for years or selling Bell to the Warriors? Or anything else?

That's fair. And I'd be on board with it.

From Jimmy's quotes though sounds like a guy that wanted to get out. A lot of boiled up emotion. Some pretty harsh (and true) words today.

Jimmy's probably most upset that he loses out on the supermax.

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[kyrv]

Boston was never going to part with Brown. They think he's on track to be something really good:

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My point is we shouldn't have been after Brown in the first place.

We should have been after the 2018 Nets 1st or the pick they got from Philly. Or the Grizzlies 2019.

They refused to include #3 or Nets 2018 Pick.

How can you do business with them if neither assets are offered?

Ainge could have easily had Jimmy or PG now or at the deadline, and for whatever reason they valued PG more.

Not that we should let facts interrupt our complaining.

[Ralphb07]

Seriously, where's Bullslas at?

I'm right here. Bulls flat out lied to Jimmy about not being traded. As of 3pm yesterday, Jimmy was told he had nothing to worry about.

Oh well. I was wrong, Jimmy got traded and the rest of the league players are trashing the Bulls today and it won't stop until the 2 guys and the coach are gone. I wasn't a Jimmy fan but the Bulls absolutely played Jimmy.

Respect for owning it. I didn't know your info came from Jimmy's camp. It explains a lot, but honestly, it surprises me that you'd treat what Jimmy hears as the whole story. GarPax aren't honest brokers.

Bullas First the Bulls didn't lie to Jimmy that's just BS. They were upfront with him publicly and privately. As of 3pm nothing was close. I got the first message around 5:30-6:00pm ET that something with Minnesota startling to gain traction.

[TimRobbins]

Did we try a Butler for Porzingis trade before doing this one?

[WIN]

I'm right here. Bulls flat out lied to Jimmy about not being traded. As of 3pm yesterday, Jimmy was told he had nothing to worry about.

Oh well. I was wrong, Jimmy got traded and the rest of the league players are trashing the Bulls today and it won't stop until the 2 guys and the coach are gone. I wasn't a Jimmy fan but the Bulls absolutely played Jimmy.

Respect for owning it. I didn't know your info came from Jimmy's camp. It explains a lot, but honestly, it surprises me that you'd treat what Jimmy hears as the whole story. GarPax aren't honest brokers.

Bullas First the Bulls didn't lie to Jimmy that's just BS. They were upfront with him publicly and privately. As of 3pm nothing was close. I got the first message around 5:30-6:00pm ET that something with Minnesota startling to gain traction.

Sounds like someone lied to Bullslas then

[Gandalf]

Was very shocked at first...but I guess it was time to change something, the champions are clear for the next few years, we need to look ahead. Hope we tank well and can add a talent like Towns in the future. Feel like we could have gotten more for Jimmy, but I guess the rest of the NBA doesn't value him that much, where were the Celtics...I'm glad we got LaVine, I really like him, just hope he returns healthy after that ACL injury. Wish GarPax would have left too tho, also Hoiberg....hope that happens in the future. I love Jimmy, but it had to be done at some point. Gonna watch the Wolves more now, love Towns anyway. Hopefully we return soon.

[RememberLu]

Lmao @RememberLu where you at my boy?

lol bruh...This is the most Bulls thing ever. Trade Jimmy for a guy with an ACL tear and use the pick to draft the next Brook Lopez. Don't forget the cherry on top...sell your 2nd round pick for cash.

And people wonder why I freak out over the stuff this FO does

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Desperation is a stinky cologne. The Bulls were like suburban kids driving into the city looking for weed.

[RememberLu]

It's too bad that I keep wanting the Bulls to draft the next Giannis Antetekoumpo but they keep wanting to draft a bunch of stiffs. I'm not passing judgement on this Lauri Markannen kid yet but from what I've seen of his youtube videos, he's like a young Brook Lopez with better range. Both 7ft tall, both's primary NBA skill is scoring the ball. Neither one of them are good defensively and neither are especially athletic.

Now I always liked Brook Lopez, he's a very good scorer. but is he what we need? I was preaching athleticism & toughness leading up to the draft. I don't understand what GarPax think they're building here. Do they even know? The picks they make exacerbate our weaknesses and don't shore up our strengths at all. They've been picking for 'shooting' for years now and most of the "shooters" they've drafted either can't shoot or are no longer on the team. Meanwhile you're bringing in all these un-athletic guys who can't play any defense on top of a coach who can't coach defense....just, what are you building here? What is the vision? You have Gar saying one thing and then doing another. He SAYS he wants youth and athleticism then they go out and sign Wade/Rondo. You can't even trust anything they say

[Jcool0]

It's too bad that I keep wanting the Bulls to draft the next Giannis Antetekoumpo but they keep wanting to draft a bunch of stiffs. I'm not passing judgement on this Lauri Markannen kid yet but from what I've seen of his youtube videos, he's like a young Brook Lopez with better range. Both 7ft tall, both's primary NBA skill is scoring the ball. Neither one of them are good defensively and neither are especially athletic.

Now I always liked Brook Lopez, he's a very good scorer. but is he what we need? I was preaching athleticism & toughness leading up to the draft. I don't understand what GarPax think they're building here. Do they even know? The picks they make exacerbate our weaknesses and don't shore up our strengths at all. They've been picking for 'shooting' for years now and most of the "shooters" they've drafted either can't shoot or are no longer on the team. Meanwhile you're bringing in all these un-athletic guys who can't play any defense on top of a coach who can't coach defense....just, what are you building here? What is the vision? You have Gar saying one thing and then doing another. He SAYS he wants youth and athleticism then they go out and sign Wade/Rondo. You can't even trust anything they say

If Markkanen is a 18-20 ppg guy (like Lopez) while hitting threes at 40+% (not like Lopez), then that is a home run pick for the Bulls.

[BullsFTW]

It's too bad that I keep wanting the Bulls to draft the next Giannis Antetekoumpo but they keep wanting to draft a bunch of stiffs. I'm not passing judgement on this Lauri Markannen kid yet but from what I've seen of his youtube videos, he's like a young Brook Lopez with better range. Both 7ft tall, both's primary NBA skill is scoring the ball. Neither one of them are good defensively and neither are especially athletic.

Now I always liked Brook Lopez, he's a very good scorer. but is he what we need? I was preaching athleticism & toughness leading up to the draft. I don't understand what GarPax think they're building here. Do they even know? The picks they make exacerbate our weaknesses and don't shore up our strengths at all. They've been picking for 'shooting' for years now and most of the "shooters" they've drafted either can't shoot or are no longer on the team. Meanwhile you're bringing in all these un-athletic guys who can't play any defense on top of a coach who can't coach defense....just, what are you building here? What is the vision? You have Gar saying one thing and then doing another. He SAYS he wants youth and athleticism then they go out and sign Wade/Rondo. You can't even trust anything they say

If Markkanen is a 18-20 ppg guy (like Lopez) while hitting threes at 40+% (not like Lopez), then that is a home run pick for the Bulls.

He definitely looks more agile than Brook Lopez and Markkanen has better perimeter skills. Brook probably has a better post game though.

[RememberLu]

It's too bad that I keep wanting the Bulls to draft the next Giannis Antetekoumpo but they keep wanting to draft a bunch of stiffs. I'm not passing judgement on this Lauri Markannen kid yet but from what I've seen of his youtube videos, he's like a young Brook Lopez with better range. Both 7ft tall, both's primary NBA skill is scoring the ball. Neither one of them are good defensively and neither are especially athletic.

Now I always liked Brook Lopez, he's a very good scorer. but is he what we need? I was preaching athleticism & toughness leading up to the draft. I don't understand what GarPax think they're building here. Do they even know? The picks they make exacerbate our weaknesses and don't shore up our strengths at all. They've been picking for 'shooting' for years now and most of the "shooters" they've drafted either can't shoot or are no longer on the team. Meanwhile you're bringing in all these un-athletic guys who can't play any defense on top of a coach who can't coach defense....just, what are you building here? What is the vision? You have Gar saying one thing and then doing another. He SAYS he wants youth and athleticism then they go out and sign Wade/Rondo. You can't even trust anything they say

If Markkanen is a 18-20 ppg guy (like Lopez) while hitting threes at 40+% (not like Lopez), then that is a home run pick for the Bulls.

I'm surprised to see you say that, most people seem to balk at the suggestion that he might turn out like Brook Lopez rather than being the next Dirk or Durant. I think Brook Lopez is the more realistic comparison.

I know Brook hasn't started shooting 3's until recently but their game's look very similar to me other than the fact that Markannen has the potential to be an elite 3pt shooter.

[Gant]

I have no idea if this is true.

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[pduh01]

I'm pretty quiet on here about this trade unless you read my rants on twitter that day, and if you haven't see my rants on twitter you missed a classic, entertain rants I have on twitter. Okay maybe isn't classic since I overhyped it but who cares!

Lot of you know by now that I am more of a keep Butler, and retool plan. But I do understand why we need to move Jimmy Butler, and need to rebuild which I am open for it but trusting this current front office with a retooling, or rebuilding plan is scary, and it's not a good thing. With the rebuilding plan having the keys to this current front office is pretty scary to say the very least when at t he very least a normal organization will fired the managements, and hire news ones start with a clean slate. But too bad this organization isn't run by normal people.

Anyways, I am for trading Jimmy as long we get something good in return, and quite frankly I don't like this deal at the very least don't dealt #16 overall pick, or if you do and Wiggins isn't part of the deal then at least ask for a future first rounder like next year, or something like that then the deal wouldn't be too shabby. Of course I prefer #7 and Wiggins to be part of the deal then the rest included if needed.

Trading Bell for cash is really stupid I was so happy that we select Bell then boom we trade him for cash I mean really?!? You trade for cash?!? At the very least trade for a future second rounder at least that will be better. A team that just start the rebuild process needs to collect draft picks/assets as many as they can, and so far this isn't a good start of a rebuilding process of course in the next few years I may overreact and it may pay off so we see.

That is my ten cents. I give my ten cents on the players we acquire in some of the threads that already created later on.

[r1terrell23]

I have no idea if this is true.

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This can't be true. No way GarPax turns that down if offered.

[jc23]

Had Chicago kept 16 and 38 i think this trade would be easier to swallow, as is losing the 16th and trading the 38th for cash was a punch to the nards.

But lets see, maybe its not all JR cheapness and maybe they use the extra roster spots to facilitate a move to get more assets.

[Nikola]

I didn't realize how minor of a tear Lavine had. He played for 6 minutes after it happened.

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[Magilla_Gorilla]

not here to troll, but your FO seems quite stupid. You guys went through Drose, his knee injuries etc and they go out and trade for a guy who tore his ACL? WTF? On top of that you have to give up your pick? Also Kris Dunn value is probably at an all time low because he was a senior and had a horrible rookie season. If i was going to trade for a guy who tore his ACL might as well ask for jabari parker and khris middleton which looks a lot more intriguing.

Really appreciate you recapping the situation for us.

[Klomp]

It's so hard for me to believe that they'd walk away from a Butler trade over the 16th pick. I'd have played that game of chicken until the 6th pick.

The Wolves were pushing for the deal to be Rubio instead of LaVine. Bulls wouldn't do it, so Wolves said if we include LaVine you have to include 16.

Sounds like Chicago was negotiating from a position of weakness, almost feeling like a deal had to be done. Allowed Minnesota to stay firm on its demands.

[jStuNNa]

Not if we get lucky and draft a few all-stars. Which is what it takes to be an elite team in the NBA unless you are the Lakers.

The Bulls may have gotten one all-star tonight. Even after a stinker of a year, it's hard to imagine Kris Dunn at the very least, not becoming a very good starter for years to come. He definitely still has all-star potential regardless of what happened this past year in Minnesota.

Markkanen at first glance, looks good. As you watch more though, It's hard to see his ceiling any higher than a good role player since doesn't play defense or rebound well. Otherwise, he'd be a really good prospect. He just seems very one dimensional.

Dirk was never those things either. He turned out pretty good. Hey im just hoping for best case scenario.

Yeah, it's really hard to tell. He's one of those players that's very hard to project. At #7, if you can a draft a seven footer who is very mobile and possibly the best shooter in the draft, you do it.