[ESPN RUMOR]There was a 5 team trade with PG13 and Melo to cavs that fell apart

[Fo-Real]

Tim Connelly the Nuggets GM was visibly pissed just before and after the draft, and has said that they thought a deal was done and a team pulled out at the very last minute. From all appearances and the rumors out there it sounds like it was likely part of this deal and the rumor is now out that the that the team who was getting Love did not like the medicals and pulled out.

I wonder if PHO was the one who pulled out cuz this would make that Bledsoe to DEN deal seem plausible. Something like:

IND receives DEN #13 + Chriss or Bender or something from PHO

PHO receives Love

CLE receives Melo + PG13

NYK Farried? or Chandler? + Shump (I doubt NY would take him back)

DEN receives Bledsoe + Frye/RJ (they're boys with Kroenke)

And then throw in Cedi to somebody.

IDK, some semblance of that kind of deal. Certainly would've been insane had it gone down though from what little tidbits we're getting about it.

If we're anything like that, then as a Phx. fan, I'm glad that **** crashed and burned.

[Resistance]

Cleveland might have sent out a chunk of cash to Philadelphia last summer for the SK salary dump.

[Birdie]

Tim Connelly the Nuggets GM was visibly pissed just before and after the draft, and has said that they thought a deal was done and a team pulled out at the very last minute. From all appearances and the rumors out there it sounds like it was likely part of this deal and the rumor is now out that the that the team who was getting Love did not like the medicals and pulled out.

I wonder if PHO was the one who pulled out cuz this would make that Bledsoe to DEN deal seem plausible. Something like:

IND receives DEN #13 + Chriss or Bender or something from PHO

PHO receives Love

CLE receives Melo + PG13

NYK Farried? or Chandler? + Shump (I doubt NY would take him back)

DEN receives Bledsoe + Frye/RJ (they're boys with Kroenke)

And then throw in Cedi to somebody.

IDK, some semblance of that kind of deal. Certainly would've been insane had it gone down though from what little tidbits we're getting about it.

If we're anything like that, then as a Phx. fan, I'm glad that **** crashed and burned.

You don't think Love and getting Mudiay would've been worth only having to give up Bledsoe + Bender or Chriss off your roster? Personally, if I were PHO, Chriss would be hands off, I LOVE his game. Seems like we (CLE) would've been getting robbed. But if it landed us PG13/Melo, I make that deal 10/10 times.

[jbk1234]

Tim Connelly the Nuggets GM was visibly pissed just before and after the draft, and has said that they thought a deal was done and a team pulled out at the very last minute. From all appearances and the rumors out there it sounds like it was likely part of this deal and the rumor is now out that the that the team who was getting Love did not like the medicals and pulled out.

This doesn't make a lot of sense. What' medical records would they be talking about? The last major injury he had was when his shoulder was dislocated. There wouldn't be any new records to look at.

I believe a team bailed but I suspect it was Indiana. By all accounts they felt rushed and weren't high on the return. The rest sounds like posturing by teams still in the mix for PG.

[Fo-Real]

I wonder if PHO was the one who pulled out cuz this would make that Bledsoe to DEN deal seem plausible. Something like:

IND receives DEN #13 + Chriss or Bender or something from PHO

PHO receives Love

CLE receives Melo + PG13

NYK Farried? or Chandler? + Shump (I doubt NY would take him back)

DEN receives Bledsoe + Frye/RJ (they're boys with Kroenke)

And then throw in Cedi to somebody.

IDK, some semblance of that kind of deal. Certainly would've been insane had it gone down though from what little tidbits we're getting about it.

If we're anything like that, then as a Phx. fan, I'm glad that **** crashed and burned.

You don't think Love and getting Mudiay would've been worth only having to give up Bledsoe + Bender or Chriss off your roster? Personally, if I were PHO, Chriss would be hands off, I LOVE his game. Seems like we (CLE) would've been getting robbed. But if it landed us PG13/Melo, I make that deal 10/10 times.

No, Mudiay has been disappointing at best and at this point I'm not giving up young talent like Chriss or Dragon for love to come to a team that he does not push into contention. The rumor of Mudiay and the 13 for Bled was palatable, but I am not giving young assets for Love at this point. Same goes for the LMA rumors right now. We tried to sign him, he picked the Spurs, so we drafted two young bigs and decided to go young. Ain't no goddamn way he is gonna now gripe his way out and ask us to trade that talent to now get him away for them!

[Myth]

I like to imagine GMs having an internet forum like this. It would be great if conversations between teams was public to all the other teams in the league, starting bidding wars. Also to have 29 team's laughing at terrible trade proposals.

[Kerrsed]

I like to imagine GMs having an internet forum like this. It would be great if conversations between teams was public to all the other teams in the league, starting bidding wars. Also to have 29 team's laughing at terrible trade proposals.

And what would the name of that forum be? REAL RealGM?

I like the idea, but not for it to be public, just something for the FO's to use.

[Wizop]

I don't know exactly when they made this decision, but at some point Pacers decided that if they weren't getting a lottery pick, they could wait.

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[Green_teamer]

I don't know exactly when they made this decision, but at some point Pacers decided that if they weren't getting a lottery pick, they could wait.

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Well if these PG to Celtics rumors are true they probably think Boston will give them the best package once they've used there cap space

[pacers33granger]

I believe a team bailed but I suspect it was Indiana. By all accounts they felt rushed and weren't high on the return. The rest sounds like posturing by teams still in the mix for PG.

This sounds about right. Pritchard was planning on trading our first for a vet so there was a ton of scrambling going on and he likely decided to take some time to survey the situation. From his comments it sounds like management isn't even sure what direction they want to go in.

[Wizop]

I believe a team bailed but I suspect it was Indiana. By all accounts they felt rushed and weren't high on the return. The rest sounds like posturing by teams still in the mix for PG.

This sounds about right. Pritchard was planning on trading our first for a vet so there was a ton of scrambling going on and he likely decided to take some time to survey the situation. From his comments it sounds like management isn't even sure what direction they want to go in.

Trading a pick for a veteran sounds more like Bird than Pritchard, but that plan needed to be shelved when PG dropped the bomb.

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[pacers33granger]

I believe a team bailed but I suspect it was Indiana. By all accounts they felt rushed and weren't high on the return. The rest sounds like posturing by teams still in the mix for PG.

This sounds about right. Pritchard was planning on trading our first for a vet so there was a ton of scrambling going on and he likely decided to take some time to survey the situation. From his comments it sounds like management isn't even sure what direction they want to go in.

Trading a pick for a veteran sounds more like Bird than Pritchard, but that plan needed to be shelved when PG dropped the bomb.

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I can't remember where I saw it but there was a report that Pritchard was in discussions to trade it up until the point PG said he wanted out. May not be a Pritchard move exactly, but it was a try to keep PG move.

[FrontPageNews]

Tim Connelly the Nuggets GM was visibly pissed just before and after the draft, and has said that they thought a deal was done and a team pulled out at the very last minute. From all appearances and the rumors out there it sounds like it was likely part of this deal and the rumor is now out that the that the team who was getting Love did not like the medicals and pulled out.

This doesn't make a lot of sense. What' medical records would they be talking about? The last major injury he had was when his shoulder was dislocated. There wouldn't be any new records to look at.

I believe a team bailed but I suspect it was Indiana. By all accounts they felt rushed and weren't high on the return. The rest sounds like posturing by teams still in the mix for PG.

Love had knee surgery in the middle of the season last year. That combined with his back and shoulder is cause of concern.

[LightTheBeam]

my best guess is

Cleveland out: Love/Frye/Shump/Jefferson/Cedi (jefferson and frye ready to retire)
Cleveland in : PG13/Melo

Phx Out: Blesoe/Warren/Miami 1st
Phx IN: Love/Mudiay

Denver out: #13/Mudiay
Denver in: Bledsoe

Knicks Out: Melo
Knicks In: Jefferson/Monta/Cedi

Pacers out: PG13/Monta
Pacers In: Warren/Miami 1st/Frye/Shump/#13

Cleveland gets there 2 guys

Phx gets Love without sacrificing any major talent. #4/Dragon/Chriss

Denver swaps #13 and Mudiay for a win now pg.

Knicks move Melo for expirings and a decent prospect

Pacers move Ellis and George and get back a lotto pick, a future pick, and a prospect.

I actually like this for all teams, I suspect the Pacers backed out thinking they could create a bidding war between Cleveland, Boston and LA after Butler was moved.

[Birdie]

my best guess is

Cleveland out: Love/Frye/Shump/Jefferson/Cedi (jefferson and frye ready to retire)
Cleveland in : PG13/Melo

Phx Out: Blesoe/Warren/Miami 1st
Phx IN: Love/Mudiay

Denver out: #13/Mudiay
Denver in: Bledsoe

Knicks Out: Melo
Knicks In: Jefferson/Monta/Cedi

Pacers out: PG13/Monta
Pacers In: Warren/Miami 1st/Frye/Shump/#13

Cleveland gets there 2 guys

Phx gets Love without sacrificing any major talent. #4/Dragon/Chriss

Denver swaps #13 and Mudiay for a win now pg.

Knicks move Melo for expirings and a decent prospect

Pacers move Ellis and George and get back a lotto pick, a future pick, and a prospect.

I actually like this for all teams, I suspect the Pacers backed out thinking they could create a bidding war between Cleveland, Boston and LA after Butler was moved.

Yea, I agree, I think that's a pretty good guess as a framework. I forgot about Warren and MIA picks. But I don't think IND moves Monta nor take on Shump/Frye money. I think Knicks eat those contracts in order to be done with Melo saga.

But I think you're right, if IND trying to get Ingram from LAL or whatever BOS is willing to give up in future picks, I could see why they would want to wait but maybe all the teams still revisit some sort of this framework of a deal once FA dust settles. Moving Warren opens up playing time for Josh Jackson to get his feet wet.

[mpharris36]

cavs weren't getting PG13 and Melo for just love and crappy contracts. Not happening. Love doesn't have that value. A future pick had to be involved or something.

Melo for contracts and cedi is awful return. Maybe if you throw in the CLE 2021 1st maybe we are getting there.

[FrontPageNews]

cavs weren't getting PG13 and Melo for just love and crappy contracts. Not happening. Love doesn't have that value. A future pick had to be involved or something.

Melo for contracts and cedi is awful return. Maybe if you throw in the CLE 2021 1st maybe we are getting there.

Melo has negative value because of his NTC. They'd be better off trading him for anything they can get just to get off his deal as long as it wasn't a long term contract.

[LightTheBeam]

cavs weren't getting PG13 and Melo for just love and crappy contracts. Not happening. Love doesn't have that value. A future pick had to be involved or something.

Melo for contracts and cedi is awful return. Maybe if you throw in the CLE 2021 1st maybe we are getting there.

I am sorry man. I really am. I know it sucks. Melo is 33 with a NTC and a trade kicker. Your GM has publicly came out saying how badly he wants to move on from him. At this point you are lucky to get expiring contracts of players who can still play without having to take on Jamal Crawford and Austin Rivers. I hope i'm wrong but I highly doubt it.

[nykballa2k4]

If Love's value wasn't that high then this isn't a real rumor. I also don't see how the salaries work. George and Melo make a TON of money.

This is not a trade idea, this is an illustration of salaries working:
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybbr8b9z

[NewYorkPride85]

cavs weren't getting PG13 and Melo for just love and crappy contracts. Not happening. Love doesn't have that value. A future pick had to be involved or something.

Melo for contracts and cedi is awful return. Maybe if you throw in the CLE 2021 1st maybe we are getting there.

I am sorry man. I really am. I know it sucks. Melo is 33 with a NTC and a trade kicker. Your GM has publicly came out saying how badly he wants to move on from him. At this point you are lucky to get expiring contracts of players who can still play without having to take on Jamal Crawford and Austin Rivers. I hope i'm wrong but I highly doubt it.

Melo can waive his kicker and if its to join his boys in Cleveland I'm sure he would do it. Not only that, its an added incentive to persuade CP3. New York is more than willing to take on any extra salary to make it work.