official Melo trade speculation - thread 2

[Thugger HBC]

I’ve been asked a few times about Carmelo Anthony’s trade kicker this week. A lot of my first article is based around the idea that the Clippers don’t just have to take back Carmelo’s $24.5 million salary, but rather roughly $29.5 million as a result of Melo’s trade bonus. Here are the basics:

First of all, Anthony has a trade kicker worth 15% of his remaining contract. For 41 more games this year and 82 games each of the next two years, Anthony is scheduled to make $66,451,590. 15% of that salary is $9,967,739, and because the final year of Anthony’s deal is following an early termination option, that bonus must be split between the two guaranteed years of his contract. That extra $4,983,869 this year moves his salary up to $29,543,249. In order to match that salary, they’d have to send out about $23,554,600.

Those are the actual numbers

You have an outdated article, thus why it refers to "this year". What you just posted was from earlier in the year, from this article, word for word....


https://www.clipsnation.com/2017/1/21/14344586/nba-trade-rumors-carmelo-anthony-clippers-knicks-bonus-jamal-crawford-austin-rivers Which is accurate, if melo is traded by June 30, 2017, but if not, the new rules kick in......

The new CBA agreements kick in effective July 1, 2017 have different terms on this subject

Under the new CBA , effective July 1, his bonus of 8.1 mil isn't "split" for cap purposes, but actually dumped onto the first year for cap purposes thus taking his salary amount to 34 mil.... the entire bonus amount, plus his 2017-18 salary, much more than 23mil and change...



http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-knicks/post/_/id/66483/how-numbers-would-add-up-in-a-carmelo-anthony-trade

Caught red handed. He couldn't even make an attempt to make the article his own...that's some elementary school ****.

I recalled that piece because the Clippers are basically the only team that really needs Melo to waive his trade kicker. I hope he isn't actually saying he wrote that piece, but rather just copy/pasted it from the article without the quote.

Otherwise......

[VirginiaKnickFan]

So basically the Knicks are stuck with Melo? That's fine. Re-sign Rose and let's tank.

Or, if the Knicks feel the distraction he'd cause outweighs the money they lose just paying him to leave.

[god shammgod]

everyone is just gonna wait on the buyout. good job phil.

The Cleveland Cavaliers continue to pursue a trade for Paul George and will be leading contenders for Carmelo Anthony's services, should Anthony secure an offseason buyout from the New York Knicks, according to league sources.

Sources told ESPN that the Cavaliers engaged in serious three-way trade discussions leading up to the NBA draft on a deal that would have brought them George from the Indiana Pacers and landed Kevin Love, George's fellow Eastern Conference All-Star, with the Denver Nuggets.

ESPN's Brian Windhorst subsequently said in an NBA on ESPN Radio interview Thursday night that both Anthony and the Bulls' Dwyane Wade are candidates to sign with the Cavaliers in free agency this summer if they can secure buyouts from Chicago and New York, respectively.

The Knicks' inability to find a workable trade for Anthony -- who possesses a full no-trade clause -- and Chicago's decision to trade Butler and start rebuilding around younger players has prompted speculation that both former All-Stars and close friends of James could end up on this summer's open market.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19735485/cleveland-cavaliers-continue-pursuit-paul-george-leading-contender-land-carmelo-anthony

[god shammgod]

i gotta admit though, golden state vs bron, kyrie, george, melo, wade.....well damn....that's like some marvel comics sh*t. i'd watch the hell out of that.

[Rotten Apple]

i gotta admit though, golden state vs bron, kyrie, george, melo, wade.....well damn....that's like some marvel comics sh*t. i'd watch the hell out of that.

Wade playing the Iggy role, Bron/Melo/Kyrie/PG vs Curry/KD/Klay/Draymond

Ratings would be through the roof.

[Sark]

everyone is just gonna wait on the buyout. good job phil.

The Cleveland Cavaliers continue to pursue a trade for Paul George and will be leading contenders for Carmelo Anthony's services, should Anthony secure an offseason buyout from the New York Knicks, according to league sources.

Sources told ESPN that the Cavaliers engaged in serious three-way trade discussions leading up to the NBA draft on a deal that would have brought them George from the Indiana Pacers and landed Kevin Love, George's fellow Eastern Conference All-Star, with the Denver Nuggets.

ESPN's Brian Windhorst subsequently said in an NBA on ESPN Radio interview Thursday night that both Anthony and the Bulls' Dwyane Wade are candidates to sign with the Cavaliers in free agency this summer if they can secure buyouts from Chicago and New York, respectively.

The Knicks' inability to find a workable trade for Anthony -- who possesses a full no-trade clause -- and Chicago's decision to trade Butler and start rebuilding around younger players has prompted speculation that both former All-Stars and close friends of James could end up on this summer's open market.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19735485/cleveland-cavaliers-continue-pursuit-paul-george-leading-contender-land-carmelo-anthony

The buyout is in the Knicks best interest. We don't have to take back $30 million in crap salaries. It also allows Melo to get a new contract somewhere on top of his money from the Knicks.

[3toheadmelo]

if the paul george trade doesn't go through, i know they gonna go hard after melo in a trade

[Thugger HBC]

A buyout doesn't sound like a bad option. Cavs especially have nothing worth wanting in a trade. Just get the rebuild fully underway, and hopefully the young guns can develop into solid players, all-star hopefully.

[VirginiaKnickFan]

everyone is just gonna wait on the buyout. good job phil.

The Cleveland Cavaliers continue to pursue a trade for Paul George and will be leading contenders for Carmelo Anthony's services, should Anthony secure an offseason buyout from the New York Knicks, according to league sources.

Sources told ESPN that the Cavaliers engaged in serious three-way trade discussions leading up to the NBA draft on a deal that would have brought them George from the Indiana Pacers and landed Kevin Love, George's fellow Eastern Conference All-Star, with the Denver Nuggets.

ESPN's Brian Windhorst subsequently said in an NBA on ESPN Radio interview Thursday night that both Anthony and the Bulls' Dwyane Wade are candidates to sign with the Cavaliers in free agency this summer if they can secure buyouts from Chicago and New York, respectively.


The Knicks' inability to find a workable trade for Anthony -- who possesses a full no-trade clause -- and Chicago's decision to trade Butler and start rebuilding around younger players has prompted speculation that both former All-Stars and close friends of James could end up on this summer's open market.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19735485/cleveland-cavaliers-continue-pursuit-paul-george-leading-contender-land-carmelo-anthony

That's going to be the ultimate outcome. There's no way anyone is trading for Melo and there's no way Phil wants him back, hence the buyout.

[DOT]

If we buyout Melo, do we have to pay his salary next year too?
Or is that something we negotiate with him

[camillepd]

No worries. In time, after Chauncey gets to Cleveland, Cavs will offer Love for Melo. All we have to do is be patient.

[god shammgod]

If we buyout Melo, do we have to pay his salary next year too?
Or is that something we negotiate with him

we do. he's not giving up money in a buyout.

[god shammgod]

the wild card is dolan deciding he won't let phil buy melo out. he can claim it's a financial decision not a basketball one and so would be within the rights of his agreement with phil to interfere.

[Sark]

If we buyout Melo, do we have to pay his salary next year too?
Or is that something we negotiate with him

we do. he's not giving up money in a buyout.

He would give up some. You never get the full amount. And in this situation Phil actually has leverage.

"You wanna be 15th man on the Knicks or go get your butt kicked by Golden State with your boys"?

[Savageknick2190]

You have an outdated article, thus why it refers to "this year". What you just posted was from earlier in the year, from this article, word for word....


https://www.clipsnation.com/2017/1/21/14344586/nba-trade-rumors-carmelo-anthony-clippers-knicks-bonus-jamal-crawford-austin-rivers Which is accurate, if melo is traded by June 30, 2017, but if not, the new rules kick in......

The new CBA agreements kick in effective July 1, 2017 have different terms on this subject

Under the new CBA , effective July 1, his bonus of 8.1 mil isn't "split" for cap purposes, but actually dumped onto the first year for cap purposes thus taking his salary amount to 34 mil.... the entire bonus amount, plus his 2017-18 salary, much more than 23mil and change...



http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-knicks/post/_/id/66483/how-numbers-would-add-up-in-a-carmelo-anthony-trade

Caught red handed. He couldn 't even make an attempt to make the article his own...that's some elementary school ****.

I recalled that piece because the Clippers are basically the only team that really needs Melo to waive his trade kicker. I hope he isn't actually saying he wrote that piece, but rather just copy/pasted it from the article without the quote.

Otherwise......

I didnt pass off the passage as my own. I wasnt hiding the original piece. You are correct so his cap hit would be $34,369,545 after July 1. Did you think you caught me in some type of deception?

[duetta]

If he's not giving up any money, there's no point in doing it.

You're just going to end up with dead cap space that you can never get rid of.

If you insist on playing hardball, better to sit him and have him ask for a trade.

He can have his release, but if he gets it, the money goes as well.

[duetta]

Besides, he has an opt-out at the end of this season. There's no way he's not taking it if they continue to lose.

[mpharris36]

If we buyout Melo, do we have to pay his salary next year too?
Or is that something we negotiate with him

we do. he's not giving up money in a buyout.

he would obviously have to give up something. Otherwise there is no benefit for a buyout. What's melo's other play. Stay here. What if they put him on the bench.

I think mutually they would have to agree to something.

[VirginiaKnickFan]

No worries. In time, after Chauncey gets to Cleveland, Cavs will offer Love for Melo. All we have to do is be patient.

Doubtful. Cavs rather have Paul George if they are moving Love.

[Sark]

Besides, he has an opt-out at the end of this season. There's no way he's not taking it if they continue to lose.

Of course he would opt in. Same reason Wade opted in this year with the Bulls. He'll never see that kind of money again.

The buyout for Wade is supposedly $20 million instead of the $24 they owe him this year. Melo would get something similar I imagine.