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so this dude is like joel anthony 2.0Bishop45 wrote:Very interested to see if we do intend to play Bam as a PF, don't think I remember hearing as much as that from introductory interviews. Draft him to play PF when he played 100% Center in College and can't pass/dribble/shoot, idk. Hard for me to believe that was the selling point in drafting him
eddieheatfan wrote:so this dude is like joel anthony 2.0Bishop45 wrote:Very interested to see if we do intend to play Bam as a PF, don't think I remember hearing as much as that from introductory interviews. Draft him to play PF when he played 100% Center in College and can't pass/dribble/shoot, idk. Hard for me to believe that was the selling point in drafting him
Bishop45 wrote:
The semantics are what they are but I'm saying that while they haven't said what position he will play, there is no way they watched him play last season and drafted him to play PF and based on his skillset I believe he's going to play Center. There's nothing wrong with that but that's JMO I know it's not something we're going to agree on. The shooting's encouraging for what the workout is worth but he doesn't have the skillset for a perimeter player.
rate_ wrote:Guys like Joel Anthony, Tristan Thompson & Dwight Howard move way too mechanically to be compared to Adebayo. Adebayo seems fluid in his movement. He moves with more grace and elegance in the post compared to those guys. And, his moves are more quick and decisive in general. He doesn't waist any time initiating his moves.
One thing I also notice about Adebayo is his dexterity. He has a left and a right hook. He would be a headache for opposing defenses if he can convert as easily over his right shoulder as is left one. His footwork in the post is very underrated as well.
Heat_Fan_87 wrote:LordRiley wrote:Hard for me to see any major FA signings. Wonder how good this team can be with Waiters & JJ returning. 7th-8th seed?
this is the east, we can be the 3rd best team behind cel and boston.
QUIZ wrote:rate_ wrote:Guys like Joel Anthony, Tristan Thompson & Dwight Howard move way too mechanically to be compared to Adebayo. Adebayo seems fluid in his movement. He moves with more grace and elegance in the post compared to those guys. And, his moves are more quick and decisive in general. He doesn't waist any time initiating his moves.
One thing I also notice about Adebayo is his dexterity. He has a left and a right hook. He would be a headache for opposing defenses if he can convert as easily over his right shoulder as is left one. His footwork in the post is very underrated as well.
No they don't. People are gonna hate Bam Bam when he's out there committing turnovers and taking ill-advised robotic hooks from the post when he can't just muscle dudes around.
It's ok to like him, but expectations like this are why people hate Justise as well, back when we drafted him the idea of him being Andre Iguodala was repugnant to people, no one wanted to hear anything less than Butler and Kawhi.
If Bam becomes Tristan Thompson I'd be ecstatic.
eddieheatfan wrote:so this dude is like joel anthony 2.0Bishop45 wrote:Very interested to see if we do intend to play Bam as a PF, don't think I remember hearing as much as that from introductory interviews. Draft him to play PF when he played 100% Center in College and can't pass/dribble/shoot, idk. Hard for me to believe that was the selling point in drafting him
eddieheatfan wrote:i dont want another mediocre season. the heat needs a a player or two that can make everyone even better. i care about wins not feels hereMettaWorldPanda wrote:DayofMourning wrote:Part of me thinks that the Lebron divorce hurt Riley and he's been healed somewhat by the chemistry of the FAs we added last off season. He's said resigning them is a win. I think he's doing it for the feels this off season.
I agree. Feel like he wants to show loyalty to the players who bought into the culture. The team really does feel like a family. I think Riley is no doubt cherishing the chemistry.
Chalm Downs wrote:his nickname is boywonder ffs
MettaWorldPanda wrote:We need to sign or trade for a third PG. A legit pass first PG who can break down a defense. It was terrible last year when Goran would get banged up and we had no other legit pure PG on the roster. TJ is coming along but his best position is still SG. He played so well when he was paired with Dragic and when Waiters would take over ball handling.
theClover wrote:Spoiler:
My son spent many summers at Billy Mimms camps in the UK.
I'm pretty sure he went back to Florida from the UK. Anyone have any news on him?
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U r welcome
Mars wrote:Bishop45 wrote:
The semantics are what they are but I'm saying that while they haven't said what position he will play, there is no way they watched him play last season and drafted him to play PF and based on his skillset I believe he's going to play Center. There's nothing wrong with that but that's JMO I know it's not something we're going to agree on. The shooting's encouraging for what the workout is worth but he doesn't have the skillset for a perimeter player.
Never implied there was anything wrong with him playing center. I'm saying Riley and Spo wouldn't be this giddy over drafting a backup center. Riley wouldn't even hint at mentioning Shawn Kemp, regardless of context, if a limited skill set, backup center is all he saw.
Now whether the"wow factor" and "wow workout" Riley and Spo each used, as reference to the first time they got to see Bam work face to face, was a true glimpse into what his game can ultimately be is a different story; but they clearly have high expectations.
Bishop45 wrote:eddieheatfan wrote:so this dude is like joel anthony 2.0Bishop45 wrote:Very interested to see if we do intend to play Bam as a PF, don't think I remember hearing as much as that from introductory interviews. Draft him to play PF when he played 100% Center in College and can't pass/dribble/shoot, idk. Hard for me to believe that was the selling point in drafting him
No, versatile defender, good rebounder, athletic finisher. Got a place in the league
LordRiley wrote:Hard for me to see any major FA signings. Wonder how good this team can be with Waiters & JJ returning. 7th-8th seed?
RonySeikalyFTW wrote:LordRiley wrote:Hard for me to see any major FA signings. Wonder how good this team can be with Waiters & JJ returning. 7th-8th seed?
This team had a 41 game sample size of being the best team in the EC, a 30-11 record in the 2nd half of the season which included going 15-5 vs playoff teams. People can cry "sample size" all they want but 41 consecutive games is in fact an objectively sufficient sample size
So how did this team dominate? Some seem to think it was a fluke or that we caught lightning in a bottle. It wasn't and we didn't, this team is legit talented and the depth is scary good. Go down the roster and notice that no team in recent memory has been as stacked from 4-9 as Miami was in 2017:
4 - James Johnson
5 - Tyler Johnson
6 - Wayne Ellington
7 - Josh Richardson
8 - Rodney McGruder
9 - Luke Babbit
This^^ doesn't even take into account low-minute yet effective reserves Ed Weed and Okaro White. Nor does it include _ustise who despite his shooting issues still promises to be an impact role player at the very least
This is arguably an unprecedented level of substantive deep roster depth in NBA history. This alone guarantees a healthy regular season record
So from 4-9 we're the best in the league. 1-3 isn't a big 3 on the level of LeBron/Wade/Bosh, but a trio of Whiteside/Dragic/Waiters at the top of the roster is an impressive compliment to the strength in numbers from 4-9. Both Whiteside and Dragic are all-star caliber players who consistently deliver all-star caliber production and and Dion is a wild card that flashes greatness here and there
Put it all together and this is a 50-55 win team