Grade The Draft

[bes628]

Can't be anything but an A.

[ohara]

Once we landed Monk, I can't give anything but an A

[Eoghan]

Doling out a rare 'A' for me. Monk is great value for us. I'm not a huge Bacon fan but not shedding a tear for any of the guys they passed on for him. Rich Cho should be on a contract year every year, he can actually not **** up a draft when his seat is on fire.

[Diop]

I had to give them an A as well. Luck or not, they still picked Monk who was first on my wish list.

[GlenRiceARoni]

A+

We got the guy i think ends up being a top 5 player from this draft class and could end being an elite scorer. Obviously hes not a guaranteed hall of famer like lonzo ball, but monk is really being slept on if his knees arent awful.

I got Ball, Fultz, Monk, Isaac, Markkanen in that order.

Bacon seems like a blah prospect that probably isnt gonna be better than Graham.


This was looking like an 8 man draft class. So we had to hope someone drafted DSJ, Tatum, AND a rando in order to get a good player to slip to us at #11. Unreal the way it worked out. The kings made a huge mistake passing on monk because they had Buddy hield (seriously lol). Instead they trade down for Justin Jackson and Harry Giles, two guys who were debatably not even 1st rd pick worthy. Kings gonna king.


The dwight howard trade is ludicrously an A+. I mean the lakers had to give up deangelo russell just to rid themselves of mozgovs deal. We got rid of plumlee and added DWIGHT FREAKING HOWARD while upgrading our pick. Im still in shock.

This is like bizarro world for our franchise.


"Get Out the Way, Let the Real F. Ballas thru" - Juvenile

[GlenRiceARoni]

Honestly grading Basketball drafts is kind of dumb considering its only 2 rounds. And even then 5-9 of the 30 2nd round picks never play a game in the nba, only 5-9 stick long term, and some of those that stick long term were picked up for free from another team after they were cut the first time. (See Whiteside, Danny Green.) There are maybe 1-2 actual eventual NBA rotation players picked in the 2nd round. Draymond Green's are picked in the 2nd round 2-3 times a decade.

There was nobody on this board clamoring for Draymond Green or Jae Crowder when we picked Jeffrey Taylor , we all wanted Quincy Miller who is out of the league (Mac Tel-Aviv). History shows only 1 or 2 guys will really pan out annually beyond an end of the bench player and its almost never the obvious guy that everybody likes. Everyone picked in the 2nd has to fix a serious hole in their game to am You are just as likely to find a contributor that was undrafted as you are in the 2nd round.

Our other sold picks update: Jeremy Tyler is in China, and Juan Pablo Vaulet is still playing in Argentina\isn't looking like a NBA player. I read an article he is hoping to get d-league contract from the Nets. Semaj Christin and Dwight Powell have been bouncing up/down the d-league but with their original teams. Petr Conlie hasn't come over yet.

TLDR: Bumping an entire letter Grade because of the 2nd round is dumb considering how unlikely it is you find a starter there.

You either like Monk or your don't, IMO.

Sadly, i was clamoring for both crowder and draymond. Crowder was #2 and draymond was the #6 prospect rated by the guys i follow for the draft.

Kawhi was #2 i believe as well when we stupidly passed on him

"Get Out the Way, Let the Real F. Ballas thru" - Juvenile

[TheKingofSting]

A+

We got the guy i think ends up being a top 5 player from this draft class and could end being an elite scorer. Obviously hes not a guaranteed hall of famer like lonzo ball, but monk is really being slept on if his knees arent awful.

I got Ball, Fultz, Monk, Isaac, Markkanen in that order.

Bacon seems like a blah prospect that probably isnt gonna be better than Graham.


This was looking like an 8 man draft class. So we had to hope someone drafted DSJ, Tatum, AND a rando in order to get a good player to slip to us at #11. Unreal the way it worked out. The kings made a huge mistake passing on monk because they had Buddy hield (seriously lol). Instead they trade down for Justin Jackson and Harry Giles, two guys who were debatably not even 1st rd pick worthy. Kings gonna king.


The dwight howard trade is ludicrously an A+. I mean the lakers had to give up deangelo russell just to rid themselves of mozgovs deal. We got rid of plumlee and added DWIGHT FREAKING HOWARD while upgrading our pick. Im still in shock.

This is like bizarro world for our franchise.


"Get Out the Way, Let the Real F. Ballas thru" - Juvenile

Monk is easily Cho's second best drafted player only behind Kemba, put him on the hot seat every season.


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[BobsBuddy]

B- only because MJ decided to add another 3 mil to his net worth. It would have been A+ if we would have kept #31 and drafted the kid from SMU .

[chellis]

A+

We got the guy i think ends up being a top 5 player from this draft class and could end being an elite scorer. Obviously hes not a guaranteed hall of famer like lonzo ball, but monk is really being slept on if his knees arent awful.

I got Ball, Fultz, Monk, Isaac, Markkanen in that order.

Bacon seems like a blah prospect that probably isnt gonna be better than Graham.


This was looking like an 8 man draft class. So we had to hope someone drafted DSJ, Tatum, AND a rando in order to get a good player to slip to us at #11. Unreal the way it worked out. The kings made a huge mistake passing on monk because they had Buddy hield (seriously lol). Instead they trade down for Justin Jackson and Harry Giles, two guys who were debatably not even 1st rd pick worthy. Kings gonna king.


The dwight howard trade is ludicrously an A+. I mean the lakers had to give up deangelo russell just to rid themselves of mozgovs deal. We got rid of plumlee and added DWIGHT FREAKING HOWARD while upgrading our pick. Im still in shock.

This is like bizarro world for our franchise.


"Get Out the Way, Let the Real F. Ballas thru" - Juvenile

Dude I LOLed at this. This is extreme calling Jackson a debatable first round talent/worthy. Giles I can accept based on injury history, but if his medicals checked out then he's definitely worth a flier in the 20-30 range. I understand you're happy, but c'mon don't be absurd.

Edit: fixing autocorrect

[GlenRiceARoni]

Its hard to really get upset about selling the pick if he is gonna use the money as a fraction of the offset on dwight and a MLE addition. Dont forget we have a trade exception as well.

Jackson was years from helping and we have briante and Cat scratch Barber

"Get Out the Way, Let the Real F. Ballas thru" - Juvenile

[chellis]

:D B- only because MJ decided to add another 3 mil to his net worth. It would have been A+ if we would have kept #31 and drafted the kid from SMU .

I'm sure MJ wished he got $3M. I believe I read pick 31 was sold for $1.2M and pick 40.

[GlenRiceARoni]

A+

We got the guy i think ends up being a top 5 player from this draft class and could end being an elite scorer. Obviously hes not a guaranteed hall of famer like lonzo ball, but monk is really being slept on if his knees arent awful.

I got Ball, Fultz, Monk, Isaac, Markkanen in that order.

Bacon seems like a blah prospect that probably isnt gonna be better than Graham.


This was looking like an 8 man draft class. So we had to hope someone drafted DSJ, Tatum, AND a rando in order to get a good player to slip to us at #11. Unreal the way it worked out. The kings made a huge mistake passing on monk because they had Buddy hield (seriously lol). Instead they trade down for Justin Jackson and Harry Giles, two guys who were debatably not even 1st rd pick worthy. Kings gonna king.


The dwight howard trade is ludicrously an A+. I mean the lakers had to give up deangelo russell just to rid themselves of mozgovs deal. We got rid of plumlee and added DWIGHT FREAKING HOWARD while upgrading our pick. Im still in shock.

This is like bizarro world for our franchise.


"Get Out the Way, Let the Real F. Ballas thru" - Juvenile

Dude I LOLed at this. This is extreme calling Jackson a debatable first round talent/worthy. Giles I can accept based on injury history, but if his medicals checked out then he's definitely worth a flier in the 20-30 range. I understand you're happy, but c'mon don't be absurd.

Edit: fixing autocorrect

Jackson is definitely a debatable first round pick.

22 year old who couldn't hit a college 3 until this year. Low steals and rebounds. Slight frame. Very Low upside player. Very unlikely to be an impact player and not definitively good enough to crack a rotation.

"Get Out the Way, Let the Real F. Ballas thru" - Juvenile

[Braggins]

I couldnt bring myself to give an A just because of how obviously silly our handling of the 2nd round was. So B+ for me.

[chellis]

A+

We got the guy i think ends up being a top 5 player from this draft class and could end being an elite scorer. Obviously hes not a guaranteed hall of famer like lonzo ball, but monk is really being slept on if his knees arent awful.

I got Ball, Fultz, Monk, Isaac, Markkanen in that order.

Bacon seems like a blah prospect that probably isnt gonna be better than Graham.


This was looking like an 8 man draft class. So we had to hope someone drafted DSJ, Tatum, AND a rando in order to get a good player to slip to us at #11. Unreal the way it worked out. The kings made a huge mistake passing on monk because they had Buddy hield (seriously lol). Instead they trade down for Justin Jackson and Harry Giles, two guys who were debatably not even 1st rd pick worthy. Kings gonna king.


The dwight howard trade is ludicrously an A+. I mean the lakers had to give up deangelo russell just to rid themselves of mozgovs deal. We got rid of plumlee and added DWIGHT FREAKING HOWARD while upgrading our pick. Im still in shock.

This is like bizarro world for our franchise.


"Get Out the Way, Let the Real F. Ballas thru" - Juvenile

Dude I LOLed at this. This is extreme calling Jackson a debatable first round talent/worthy. Giles I can accept based on injury history, but if his medicals checked out then he's definitely worth a flier in the 20-30 range. I understand you're happy, but c'mon don't be absurd.

Edit: fixing autocorrect

Jackson is definitely a debatable first round pick.

22 year old who couldn't hit a college 3 until this year. Low steals and rebounds. Slight frame. Very Low upside player. Very unlikely to be an impact player and not definitively good enough to crack a rotation.

"Get Out the Way, Let the Real F. Ballas thru" - Juvenile

Well, that's your opinion. I respectfully disagree. I'm not going to get into a debate as I believe your opinions on him aren't going to change since you hold such a negative view of him.

I see his improvement as his willingness to take constructive criticism of his game and work on improving. Will he be an All-Star. I don't think so, but I do think He should have a fine career in the league in a team's rotation.

[GlenRiceARoni]

I think most of his improvement comes from being a 22 yo playing against high school players.

He's miles behind jeremy lamb as a scorer and rebounder and lamb was a fringe rotation player for a non playoff team last year

"Get Out the Way, Let the Real F. Ballas thru" - Juvenile

[Mystical Apples]

I think most of his improvement comes from being a 22 yo playing against high school players.

He's miles behind jeremy lamb as a scorer and rebounder and lamb was a fringe rotation player for a non playoff team last year

"Get Out the Way, Let the Real F. Ballas thru" - Juvenile

Yeah I had Justin Jackson in the 30's.

[predators]

Honestly grading Basketball drafts is kind of dumb considering its only 2 rounds. And even then 5-9 of the 30 2nd round picks never play a game in the nba, only 5-9 stick long term, and some of those that stick long term were picked up for free from another team after they were cut the first time. (See Whiteside, Danny Green.) There are maybe 1-2 actual eventual NBA rotation players picked in the 2nd round. Draymond Green's are picked in the 2nd round 2-3 times a decade.

There was nobody on this board clamoring for Draymond Green or Jae Crowder when we picked Jeffrey Taylor , we all wanted Quincy Miller who is out of the league (Mac Tel-Aviv). History shows only 1 or 2 guys will really pan out annually beyond an end of the bench player and its almost never the obvious guy that everybody likes. Everyone picked in the 2nd has to fix a serious hole in their game to am You are just as likely to find a contributor that was undrafted as you are in the 2nd round.

Our other sold picks update: Jeremy Tyler is in China, and Juan Pablo Vaulet is still playing in Argentina\isn't looking like a NBA player. I read an article he is hoping to get d-league contract from the Nets. Semaj Christin and Dwight Powell have been bouncing up/down the d-league but with their original teams. Petr Conlie hasn't come over yet.

TLDR: Bumping an entire letter Grade because of the 2nd round is dumb considering how unlikely it is you find a starter there.

You either like Monk or your don't, IMO.

Completely respect your viewpoint - it's understandable - but I have a different take. If excellence on the court (or in business) is your goal, you do whatever it takes to increase your chances of success - despite the odds. Meaning, despite knowing that only a few second rounders will pan out as solid rotation players (and I think most on this board understand this), you still do whatever you can to increase your chances of landing one of those assets. Selling a 31 for a 40 does not accomplish this. I think the approach is what irks people - it's not a winning approach. It doesn't strive, it settles.

I get that sentiment, but my point is Bacon is just as likely to be the 2nd round steal as the guys we passed on. Look at how ridiculous the Draymond Green Draft express profile looks now.

Unfortunately, Green's defensive deficiencies have become even more pronounced as a senior. At 6'7, he is too small to guard elite post players, and lacks the lateral quickness to defend perimeter players, even face-up power forwards at the NCAA level. While his effort and aggressiveness will never be questioned, it is difficult to project him as an adequate NBA defender at this time. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Draymond-Green-5859/ ©DraftExpress

[DoItALL9]

Honestly grading Basketball drafts is kind of dumb considering its only 2 rounds. And even then 5-9 of the 30 2nd round picks never play a game in the nba, only 5-9 stick long term, and some of those that stick long term were picked up for free from another team after they were cut the first time. (See Whiteside, Danny Green.) There are maybe 1-2 actual eventual NBA rotation players picked in the 2nd round. Draymond Green's are picked in the 2nd round 2-3 times a decade.

There was nobody on this board clamoring for Draymond Green or Jae Crowder when we picked Jeffrey Taylor , we all wanted Quincy Miller who is out of the league (Mac Tel-Aviv). History shows only 1 or 2 guys will really pan out annually beyond an end of the bench player and its almost never the obvious guy that everybody likes. Everyone picked in the 2nd has to fix a serious hole in their game to am You are just as likely to find a contributor that was undrafted as you are in the 2nd round.

Our other sold picks update: Jeremy Tyler is in China, and Juan Pablo Vaulet is still playing in Argentina\isn't looking like a NBA player. I read an article he is hoping to get d-league contract from the Nets. Semaj Christin and Dwight Powell have been bouncing up/down the d-league but with their original teams. Petr Conlie hasn't come over yet.

TLDR: Bumping an entire letter Grade because of the 2nd round is dumb considering how unlikely it is you find a starter there.

You either like Monk or your don't, IMO.

Completely respect your viewpoint - it's understandable - but I have a different take. If excellence on the court (or in business) is your goal, you do whatever it takes to increase your chances of success - despite the odds. Meaning, despite knowing that only a few second rounders will pan out as solid rotation players (and I think most on this board understand this), you still do whatever you can to increase your chances of landing one of those assets. Selling a 31 for a 40 does not accomplish this. I think the approach is what irks people - it's not a winning approach. It doesn't strive, it settles.

Estimate what're the percentage differences between finding that person at #40 vs #31? It seems to be negligible.

& At that point maybe the cash difference gives the team a better shot at improving statistically (if used towards it obviously)
Not even necessarily roster but maybe shooting coach, injury specialist, dietician etc.

[DoItALL9]

Honestly grading Basketball drafts is kind of dumb considering its only 2 rounds. And even then 5-9 of the 30 2nd round picks never play a game in the nba, only 5-9 stick long term, and some of those that stick long term were picked up for free from another team after they were cut the first time. (See Whiteside, Danny Green.) There are maybe 1-2 actual eventual NBA rotation players picked in the 2nd round. Draymond Green's are picked in the 2nd round 2-3 times a decade.

There was nobody on this board clamoring for Draymond Green or Jae Crowder when we picked Jeffrey Taylor , we all wanted Quincy Miller who is out of the league (Mac Tel-Aviv). History shows only 1 or 2 guys will really pan out annually beyond an end of the bench player and its almost never the obvious guy that everybody likes. Everyone picked in the 2nd has to fix a serious hole in their game to am You are just as likely to find a contributor that was undrafted as you are in the 2nd round.

Our other sold picks update: Jeremy Tyler is in China, and Juan Pablo Vaulet is still playing in Argentina\isn't looking like a NBA player. I read an article he is hoping to get d-league contract from the Nets. Semaj Christin and Dwight Powell have been bouncing up/down the d-league but with their original teams. Petr Conlie hasn't come over yet.

TLDR: Bumping an entire letter Grade because of the 2nd round is dumb considering how unlikely it is you find a starter there.

You either like Monk or your don't, IMO.

Sadly, i was clamoring for both crowder and draymond. Crowder was #2 and draymond was the #6 prospect rated by the guys i follow for the draft.

Kawhi was #2 i believe as well when we stupidly passed on him

"Get Out the Way, Let the Real F. Ballas thru" - Juvenile

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