2017 Nets Offseason Thread II

[DarkXaero]

I like Redick a lot and I think signing him would have made a lot of sense if we didn't make the Russell trade. But we did so I really don't see the need for him anymore. Of course he would improve us regardless as he is a really good player, an elite shooter and I think he would thrive in Kenny's system. So for that reason I'm not against signing him but I think our money would be better off being spent on a starting PF. I think RHJ is more suited to a sixth man role where he can play split minutes at both PF and SF. Booker is a good backup but not a starter so we should move him, if we sign a starting PF.

[shakendfries]

I like Redick a lot and I think signing him would have made a lot of sense if we didn't make the Russell trade. But we did so I really don't see the need for him anymore. Of course he would improve us regardless as he is a really good player, an elite shooter and I think he would thrive in Kenny's system. So for that reason I'm not against signing him but I think our money would be better off being spent on a starting PF. I think RHJ is more suited to a sixth man role where he can play split minutes at both PF and SF. Booker is a good backup but not a starter so we should move him, if we sign a starting PF.

Joe Ingles is an option. He had an extremely efficient season on both ends, playing solid defense while stretching the floor. The Nets could also probably pursue James Johnson if Miami is trying to land Blake. He had a breakout season as well

[Karate Diop]

I like Redick a lot and I think signing him would have made a lot of sense if we didn't make the Russell trade. But we did so I really don't see the need for him anymore. Of course he would improve us regardless as he is a really good player, an elite shooter and I think he would thrive in Kenny's system. So for that reason I'm not against signing him but I think our money would be better off being spent on a starting PF. I think RHJ is more suited to a sixth man role where he can play split minutes at both PF and SF. Booker is a good backup but not a starter so we should move him, if we sign a starting PF.

If he's signed I think it'll mainly be because of his influence as a locker room leader. People forget but Redick was looked at very negatively early on in his career. It's a credit to his work ethic that he was able to reinvent himself and turn himself into a positive impact player.

[Ror1997]

I like Redick a lot and I think signing him would have made a lot of sense if we didn't make the Russell trade. But we did so I really don't see the need for him anymore. Of course he would improve us regardless as he is a really good player, an elite shooter and I think he would thrive in Kenny's system. So for that reason I'm not against signing him but I think our money would be better off being spent on a starting PF. I think RHJ is more suited to a sixth man role where he can play split minutes at both PF and SF. Booker is a good backup but not a starter so we should move him, if we sign a starting PF.

Joe Ingles is an option. He had an extremely efficient season on both ends, playing solid defense while stretching the floor. The Nets could also probably pursue James Johnson if Miami is trying to land Blake. He had a breakout season as well

Could definitely see Ingles coming here. He's a 2 way player, he finished top 5 in 3 point %, He's from Australia (Marks is from New Zealand) and He's a glue guy. But hes a SF, not a PF. He can get PF mins but I wouldn't start him first.

RHJ just started playing PF. I'd give him the summer and a month or two before dismissing the idea of him as a starting PF. He was the starting PF during that late season run and He's only going to get better as the summer goes on and he continues to learn the position.

However if we do go the F/A route....Zach Randolph is a name to look at. Good vet presence, understands the grit and grind mentality and can still contribute.

[Prokorov]

I just don't see the fit with Redick, Russell, and Caris. It seems like the type of logjam that'll actually hurt development. Lin coming off the bench would help things but I'd rather that not happen.

PG Russell
SG Reddick
SF Caris

i dont see the issue. one of them sits for lin. all of them get 25+ minutes. harris or skil goes if reddick signs.

[Prokorov]

We can still pick him up at the minimum if no one offers him a contract.

nah... there is no way... marks bent over backwards to take care of his guys. he wouldnt decline the option and sign him to the minimum to shed 2 million. makes no sense and is screwing the player.

no chance

[Prokorov]

I expect Marks to retain all our minimum guys (Acy, Goodwin, Harris, Kilpatrick & Dinwiddie).

It's funny how gross Mozgross' contract is considering that it's even higher than all our player's salaries combined not named Lin, Booker, Anderson, Russell & Hamilton. I wanna puke... yuck!!!

his contract isnt all that bad. he is overpaid by 3 million. 12 million for a solid reserve big isnt awful.

[Prokorov]

I can't fathom Reddick coming here and starting over LeVert, and you're not bringing either Lin or Russell off of the bench. I don't think it's a good fit even though we need shooting.

i disagree. its a great fit. everyone talks about spacing and nothing spaces the floor better then a 3 point shooter who can hit coming off screens with and without the ball. and reddick is as good as that gets, look how much space the clippers had with 2 bigs who dont shoot.

Russell - Reddick - caris

or

lin - reddick - caris

either way all 4 guys are getting 25-29+ minutes a night which is right where the performance team probably wants them.

[DartboardT]

From the Dloading thread:

Mozgov has the theoretical ability to shoot threes. #bonus #slightlymorehyped

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[DartboardT]

Sure, JLin can come off the bench, but then he'll probably demand a trade mid-year (plus, it kind of puts the lie to FAs expecting decent treatment/"great team culture" if not an UltraStar Player™), so there's that.

*Dloading* as the sixth man?

...it just might work...but I'm not sure where Redick fits, honestly. A good get as a second-tier FA need if the price is right, but he's not a long-term solution at SG and his price tag will probably be pretty high.

I can't fathom Reddick coming here and starting over LeVert, and you're not bringing either Lin or Russell off of the bench. I don't think it's a good fit even though we need shooting.

i disagree. its a great fit. everyone talks about spacing and nothing spaces the floor better then a 3 point shooter who can hit coming off screens with and without the ball. and reddick is as good as that gets, look how much space the clippers had with 2 bigs who dont shoot.

Russell - Reddick - caris

or

lin - reddick - caris

either way all 4 guys are getting 25-29+ minutes a night which is right where the performance team probably wants them.

[DartboardT]

for discussions purposes....

Minny is shopping Rubio.... Lin for Rubio? why or why not?

Rubio's like a Rondo

-who can shoot free throws
-but can't make regular two-pointers (37.5% lifetime FG%, ouch)

You (nonspecific you) must not like Lin very much if you were to think Rubio's measurably better, except at assists. Also notable that Rubio is a zero-time playoff player (and he did have KLove at some point on his team), vs. JLin being a 4x playoff player.

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[vincecarter4pres]

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So methinks they're going to send that $3.4 million with either Booker or Hamilton for cap space or a non-guaranteed contract.

[vincecarter4pres]

for discussions purposes....

Minny is shopping Rubio.... Lin for Rubio? why or why not?

I prefer Lin by far. That's just me though.

[vincecarter4pres]

I can't fathom Reddick coming here and starting over LeVert, and you're not bringing either Lin or Russell off of the bench. I don't think it's a good fit even though we need shooting.

i disagree. its a great fit. everyone talks about spacing and nothing spaces the floor better then a 3 point shooter who can hit coming off screens with and without the ball. and reddick is as good as that gets, look how much space the clippers had with 2 bigs who dont shoot.

Russell - Reddick - caris

or

lin - reddick - caris

either way all 4 guys are getting 25-29+ minutes a night which is right where the performance team probably wants them.

What gets lost in the fray and I'm certainly guilty of forgetting myself, is LeVert is still coming off that foot injury and truthfully they're probably going to want to limit him to max of say 28mpg on average. Let alone most of those minutes will probably come at the 3. And then Lin is coming off the bum hammy as well. Say 28mpg for him. Say 30 for Russell.

So out of 96 minutes at the guard spots, say 66 between the 3? That leaves 30. And with missed games and overtime, there's always a lot more than 96 minutes a game, when we're talking individual averages by the end of the season.

I guess it could work, though you kill any and all minutes for Dinwiddie, Goodwin and Skil.

And I completely get the good example thing, the mentor thing, even the learn from watching me kill it thing, but unless they feel those latter 3 are literally nearly worthless, doesn't this jump into that rushing things while killing development scenario?

This move confuses me after the trade. I'd be OK with it, I mean Reddick is a great shooter, good player and a lot of fun to watch, but confusing none-the-less.

[Netaman]

If they're truly going after Reddick and he's receptive, I think it's extremely likely they deal 1 or more of the guards (Skil?) along with the extra cash for a future pick before July 1.

[vincecarter4pres]

I expect Marks to retain all our minimum guys (Acy, Goodwin, Harris, Kilpatrick & Dinwiddie).

It's funny how gross Mozgross' contract is considering that it's even higher than all our player's salaries combined not named Lin, Booker, Anderson, Russell & Hamilton. I wanna puke... yuck!!!

his contract isnt all that bad. he is overpaid by 3 million. 12 million for a solid reserve big isnt awful.

It's really bad dude. There are maybe like 5 worse contracts in the league. Noah, Deng, Mahinmi, Chandler Parsons and Evan Turner are pretty much the only ones I can think of.

[vincecarter4pres]

If they're truly going after Reddick and he's receptive, I think it's extremely likely they deal 1 or more of the guards (Skil?) along with the extra cash for a future pick before July 1.

Yeah, guessing Skil and maybe Harris are both gone in some shape or form if it happens.

[MrDollarBills]

I can't fathom Reddick coming here and starting over LeVert, and you're not bringing either Lin or Russell off of the bench. I don't think it's a good fit even though we need shooting.

i disagree. its a great fit. everyone talks about spacing and nothing spaces the floor better then a 3 point shooter who can hit coming off screens with and without the ball. and reddick is as good as that gets, look how much space the clippers had with 2 bigs who dont shoot.

Russell - Reddick - caris

or

lin - reddick - caris

either way all 4 guys are getting 25-29+ minutes a night which is right where the performance team probably wants them.

I'm not in favor of benching our top young guys, or jeremy lin. don't care who we sign (unless its some superstar stud, which is not happening)

Russell, LeVert, Hollis-Jefferson, Lin should play and play plenty.

[Shark]

I don't think that'd be a huge issue though. I'm sure that even if one or two of them come off the bench, they'll find lots of time together with the starters.