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Post#241 » by Paradise » Mon Jun 26, 2017 4:25 pm

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Post#242 » by J_LA » Mon Jun 26, 2017 4:26 pm

I won't pretend like Mozgov is great but he was definitely solid for us last season before he was benched in favor of the tank.
I'm cautiously optimistic he can do more of the same In Brooklyn with a fresh start.
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Post#243 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Jun 26, 2017 4:37 pm

Princeinrevolt wrote:HAHA Mozgov was soooooooo happy when they asked him if he will be shooting three point shots. He's been wanting to shoot them since last summer. I'm guessing Luke Walton didn't want him to.


He can shoot threes??? :o
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Official D'Angelo Russell Thread 

Post#244 » by Paradise » Mon Jun 26, 2017 4:56 pm

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Post#245 » by Karate Diop » Mon Jun 26, 2017 4:58 pm

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vincecarter4pres wrote:Is Gilbert Arenas a good comparison for his upside?


I think what differentiates Gil and Russell was Gil's ability to get to the line. I'm not sure D'Angelo has proven he has that in his game yet.

Will it come with more shot attempts? Can't say - but I just checked the stats and for that short period of time when Gil was a legitimate star...

https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3540/

He could get to the line with the best of them.

I honestly thought about that too. But if that came, solid comparison?


There may be a better comparison out there, I'd have to think about it... I watched some highlights of both during the lunch break and one of the things that's noticeable when comparing the two players is that Gilbert, like most elite players, tended to attack the basket in a straight line fashion (and that's probably one of the reasons why he averaged more free throws).

Russell is a bit more methodical and isn't necessarily driving to basket thinking "I'm going to go all the way or get contact". That's both good and bad - as while the upside with this approach is that D'Angelo is probably less susceptible to the devastating knee injuries that guys like Steve Francis, Gilbert Arenas and Derrick Rose had the downside is that if he can't improve his trips to the line he'll have to become a 37%+ volume three-point shooter (which I think he's capable of) in order to be a true #1 option.

The other difference between the two - and I may be being preemptive here is that I think Russell has a much better feel for the game as a passer. Gilbert had legitimate passing skills but his mentality was always to shoot first, shoot second, and shoot third. Gilbert was one of those guys who "got a lot of assists" simply because he had the ball at all times when on the court.

Russell isn't Ricky Rubio but he seems to have a tremendous feel for the game and is already able to execute advanced passes in traffic.

(Now with all that being said in terms of swagger the comparison still stands :wink:)
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Re: Official D'Angelo Russell Thread 

Post#246 » by J_LA » Mon Jun 26, 2017 5:03 pm

Karate Diop wrote:
vincecarter4pres wrote:
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I think what differentiates Gil and Russell was Gil's ability to get to the line. I'm not sure D'Angelo has proven he has that in his game yet.

Will it come with more shot attempts? Can't say - but I just checked the stats and for that short period of time when Gil was a legitimate star...

https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3540/

He could get to the line with the best of them.

I honestly thought about that too. But if that came, solid comparison?


There may be a better comparison out there, I'd have to think about it... I watched some highlights of both during the lunch break and one of the things that's noticeable when comparing the two players is that Gilbert, like most elite players, tended to attack the basket in a straight line fashion (and that's probably one of the reasons why he averaged more free throws).

Russell is a bit more methodical and isn't necessarily driving to basket thinking "I'm going to go all the way or get contact". That's both good and bad - as while the upside with this approach is that D'Angelo is probably less susceptible to the devastating knee injuries that guys like Steve Francis, Gilbert Arenas and Derrick Rose had the downside is that if he can't improve his trips to the line he'll have to become a 37%+ volume three-point shooter (which I think he's capable of) in order to be a true #1 option.

The other difference between the two - and I may be being preemptive here is that I think Russell has a much better feel for the game as a passer. Gilbert had legitimate passing skills but his mentality was always to shoot first, shoot second, and shoot third. Gilbert was one of those guys who "got a lot of assists" simply because he had the ball at all times when on the court.

Russell isn't Ricky Rubio but he seems to have a tremendous feel for the game and is already able to execute advanced passes in traffic.

(Now with all that being said in terms of swagger the comparison still stands :wink:)


This is a good post. The only thing I would add as far as Gil, he had one of the quickest first steps I've ever seen. It might be the quickest.
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Re: Official D'Angelo Russell Thread 

Post#247 » by TylersLakers » Mon Jun 26, 2017 5:29 pm

Shout out to Russell for not responding with the same type of "class" that Magic Johnson did.
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Re: Official D'Angelo Russell Thread 

Post#248 » by Princeinrevolt » Mon Jun 26, 2017 5:32 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
Princeinrevolt wrote:HAHA Mozgov was soooooooo happy when they asked him if he will be shooting three point shots. He's been wanting to shoot them since last summer. I'm guessing Luke Walton didn't want him to.


He can shoot threes??? :o




He is a very good midrange shooter, so I hope he starts shooting threes next year.
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Post#249 » by B-Scott » Mon Jun 26, 2017 5:33 pm

Lakers fan. Im still shocked we traded D'Angelo. Wow
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Post#250 » by hood30 » Mon Jun 26, 2017 5:34 pm

The guy the most similar to D'Angelo is Jalen Rose..Rose was a bit taller at 6'7 and a good defender but crafty with the ball while not having an explosive first step.

DLo will be a better shooting version of Jalen Rose who can hit 3's but will be an inferior defender.
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Re: Official D'Angelo Russell Thread 

Post#251 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Jun 26, 2017 7:31 pm

Princeinrevolt wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Princeinrevolt wrote:HAHA Mozgov was soooooooo happy when they asked him if he will be shooting three point shots. He's been wanting to shoot them since last summer. I'm guessing Luke Walton didn't want him to.


He can shoot threes??? :o




He is a very good midrange shooter, so I hope he starts shooting threes next year.



haha we were spoiled last year. Lopez was knocking down the deep ball at a nice clip. if Mozgov can give us some at least 33% i'd be happy lol
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Re: Official D'Angelo Russell Thread 

Post#252 » by CalamityX12 » Mon Jun 26, 2017 7:58 pm

I want Mozgov around that bloody rim!
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Re: Official D'Angelo Russell Thread 

Post#253 » by Paradise » Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:00 pm

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Re: Official D'Angelo Russell Thread 

Post#254 » by Princeinrevolt » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:05 am

I guess Metta World Peace believes in Russell....

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Post#255 » by Ror1997 » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:18 am

If MWP doesn't have a problem with DLo, who in that Lakers locker room (besides Swaggy P) does? I feel like MWP is the easiest guy to rub the wrong way.
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Re: Official D'Angelo Russell Thread 

Post#256 » by Prokorov » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:27 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
Princeinrevolt wrote:HAHA Mozgov was soooooooo happy when they asked him if he will be shooting three point shots. He's been wanting to shoot them since last summer. I'm guessing Luke Walton didn't want him to.


He can shoot threes??? :o


percentage wise he was better then brook on long twos and has a pretty stroke. he can certainly make that transition
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Post#257 » by Prokorov » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:29 am

CalamityX12 wrote:I want Mozgov around that bloody rim!


werent you saying that about brook last offseason?
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Post#258 » by Princeinrevolt » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:38 am

Ror1997 wrote:If MWP doesn't have a problem with DLo, who in that Lakers locker room (besides Swaggy P) does? I feel like MWP is the easiest guy to rub the wrong way.

I think nowadays its the opposite... One of MWP's nicknames is "Panda's Friend". :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post#259 » by DartboardT » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:54 am

Ooooh, that's decent form and arc.

Don't know about how quick the release is in game reps yet but that's what Preseason Mad Scientist Tinkering™ is for!

Let's see it, Stretch 5 Mozgov!

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MrDollarBills wrote:
Princeinrevolt wrote:HAHA Mozgov was soooooooo happy when they asked him if he will be shooting three point shots. He's been wanting to shoot them since last summer. I'm guessing Luke Walton didn't want him to.


He can shoot threes??? :o




He is a very good midrange shooter, so I hope he starts shooting threes next year.
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Re: Official D'Angelo Russell Thread 

Post#260 » by DartboardT » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:55 am

Delightfully random, that Panda's Friend. We'll take it!

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