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official Melo trade speculation - thread 2

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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#1121 » by Sark » Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:30 pm

Not gonna lie. Melo is probably the GOAT 1 on 0 player. Dude is undefeated.
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#1122 » by Battery » Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:31 pm



Actually, the ball is not in Melo's court because if he does stay it will be very uncomfortable as he sits on the bench hearing boos from the crowd. It's time for Melo to take his 33-year-old overrated ass someplace else before it dawns on him that the longer he stays the less he will get in a buyout. Phil should call his bluff.
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#1123 » by DOT » Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:32 pm

I predict Melo will be a Knick opening night

No trade will appease everybody, and Phil's too proud to buy him out
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#1124 » by god shammgod » Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:47 pm

Either Phil Jackson forgot that Carmelo Anthony holds all the cards, or he simply doesn't care.

And judging by the way Phil goes after his players, both young and old alike, bet on the latter.

In trying to build a very public case against Carmelo - with the help of one or two of his media sycophants - Jackson ultimately painted himself into a corner. The Knicks can dream up any trade proposal they'd like, but no deal is official until Anthony agrees to it.

The other option is a buyout, a scenario that has been debated and addressed ad nausea, which would allow Carmelo to become a free agent and presumably join LeBron James in Cleveland. It makes plenty of sense; Anthony, after missing out on the playoffs for four straight seasons, would be an important player on a championship contender. He's also best pals with LeBron, who has this history of making everyone around him better.

But things are complicated. Carmelo and his actress wife, La La, are estranged, and with Anthony having a close relationship with his only son, he is reluctant to move out of New York. According to a person familiar with Anthony's thinking, Carmelo is no longer enamored with playing in Los Angeles if it means having to be away from his son for an extended period of time.

Anthony, according to the same source, was toying with the idea of orchestrating a move to either Philadelphia or Washington, which would keep him close to New York. However, Anthony's mindset now is to stay in New York and play for the Knicks... even though Jackson doesn't want him.


Last week, Jackson confirmed Anthony's position in an interview with MSG Network when the Knicks president said: "We've expressed the fact that we haven't been successful and it might be time for (Carmelo) to find an opportunity to go somewhere else. He's come back and said he'd just as soon stay.




Anthony is owed $54 million over the next two seasons, and his contract with the Knicks includes a trade kicker that would add an additional $8 million if he were dealt. So there is a huge financial incentive for Anthony to agree to a trade.

As for a buyout, Jackson may have poisoned the waters by criticizing Anthony throughout last season. Anthony kept it professional and refused to get into a public hissing match with his boss. The way to have the last word is to force Jackson's hand; "You want to get rid of me, cut me and give me all my money."

Why give Jackson a discount when he's been dumping on you for months?

That leads to the ideal scenario for Anthony, which is sure to get the attention of Garden Chairman James Dolan. The Knicks are well within their right to simply release Anthony and eat the rest of his contract. Under the stretch provision, they wouldn't take as big of a salary cap hit.

However, Dolan and Anthony have a history. It was Dolan who orchestrated the Anthony trade six years ago and it is Dolan who would be responsible for paying an All Star nearly $55 million to play somewhere else.

As much as Dolan likes to tell you he's not involved with the Knicks, when it comes to Carmelo and $55 million, he's involved.
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#1125 » by shtolky » Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:48 pm

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Actually, the ball is not in Melo's court because if he does stay it will be very uncomfortable as he sits on the bench hearing boos from the crowd. It's time for Melo to take his 33-year-old overrated ass someplace else before it dawns on him that the longer he stays the less he will get in a buyout. Phil should call his bluff.



I wouldn't pay attention to anything Isola says. He's a hack. Melo could literally stab Phil and Isola would find a way to blame Phil for the incident. The more drama surrounding the team, whether real or not, the better for a guy like Isola. Either Melo agrees to a trade or he will just play out the time here, that's it. This idea of benching him or waiving him is just silly and overblown.
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#1126 » by Sark » Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:56 pm

Looks like Starbury 2.0 it shall be.
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#1127 » by KnicksFury » Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:59 pm

Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:


Melo will be waived. Phil does not want him here and rightfully so.

He does not fit in with the way the game is played today, but most importantly his game does not fit into the triangle.

He has to go, and thankfully phil knows that.

Melo will not be a knick on opening night.

You're wrong. Isola is an idiot but he brought one good point. James Dolan isn't going to pay Melo 55 mil to play somewhere else. It sucks that we won't be able to get assets for Melo, but at least KP will be happy.
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#1128 » by Battery » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:00 am

shtolky wrote:
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Actually, the ball is not in Melo's court because if he does stay it will be very uncomfortable as he sits on the bench hearing boos from the crowd. It's time for Melo to take his 33-year-old overrated ass someplace else before it dawns on him that the longer he stays the less he will get in a buyout. Phil should call his bluff.



I wouldn't pay attention to anything Isola says. He's a hack. Melo could literally stab Phil and Isola would find a way to blame Phil for the incident. The more drama surrounding the team, whether real or not, the better for a guy like Isola. Either Melo agrees to a trade or he will just play out the time here, that's it. This idea of benching him or waiving him is just silly and overblown.


He's not going to play here because the organization is going in a different direction. Melo wants to be waived so he can get all his money and go wherever. The team will make it uncomfortable for him if he doesn't accept a buyout.
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#1129 » by Sark » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:05 am

KnicksFury wrote:
Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:


Melo will be waived. Phil does not want him here and rightfully so.

He does not fit in with the way the game is played today, but most importantly his game does not fit into the triangle.

He has to go, and thankfully phil knows that.

Melo will not be a knick on opening night.

You're wrong. Isola is an idiot but he brought one good point. James Dolan isn't going to pay Melo 55 mil to play somewhere else. It sucks that we won't be able to get assets for Melo, but at least KP will be happy.


Dolan will have no problem with Melo sitting at home eating Vaseline, just like he had no problem with Marbury doing the same.
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#1130 » by shtolky » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:07 am

Battery wrote:
shtolky wrote:
Battery wrote:
Actually, the ball is not in Melo's court because if he does stay it will be very uncomfortable as he sits on the bench hearing boos from the crowd. It's time for Melo to take his 33-year-old overrated ass someplace else before it dawns on him that the longer he stays the less he will get in a buyout. Phil should call his bluff.



I wouldn't pay attention to anything Isola says. He's a hack. Melo could literally stab Phil and Isola would find a way to blame Phil for the incident. The more drama surrounding the team, whether real or not, the better for a guy like Isola. Either Melo agrees to a trade or he will just play out the time here, that's it. This idea of benching him or waiving him is just silly and overblown.


He's not going to play here because the organization is going in a different direction. Melo wants to be waived so he can get all his money and go wherever. The team will make it uncomfortable for him if he doesn't accept a buyout.



I think he legit loves NY and playing in NY. It seems winning to him is secondary and he wants to finish things out here. I really don't know, but I just don't think it's going to get as dramatic as some think.
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#1131 » by KnicksFury » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:13 am

Sark wrote:
KnicksFury wrote:
Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:
Melo will be waived. Phil does not want him here and rightfully so.

He does not fit in with the way the game is played today, but most importantly his game does not fit into the triangle.

He has to go, and thankfully phil knows that.

Melo will not be a knick on opening night.

You're wrong. Isola is an idiot but he brought one good point. James Dolan isn't going to pay Melo 55 mil to play somewhere else. It sucks that we won't be able to get assets for Melo, but at least KP will be happy.


Dolan will have no problem with Melo sitting at home eating Vaseline, just like he had no problem with Marbury doing the same.

Different scenario. Marbury refused to play anymore games with the Knicks before he was bought out. Melo is saying the exact opposite.
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#1132 » by Dkillanyk4lyf » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:17 am

Sark wrote:Looks like Starbury 2.0 it shall be.


Hopefully. I dont want to have a repeat of what he did to kp.

I want ME-LO as far away from frank as possible so he wont be contaminated.
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#1133 » by duetta » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:25 am

Since the Nets have no reason to tank, with their pick belonging to Boston, how about Anthony and Plumlee or O'Quinn for Mozgov and Booker? Anthony wouldn't be moving...and I would imagine that Mozgov would be a lot easier to move.
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Post#1134 » by mademan » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:32 am

duetta wrote:Since the Nets have no reason to tank, with their pick belonging to Boston, how about Anthony and Plumlee or O'Quinn for Mozgov and Booker? Anthony wouldn't be moving...and I would imagine that Mozgov would be a lot easier to move.


Nets have worked very hard the last season (2 seasons) to move away from the Billy King era. They're attempting to bring about a new culture; I dont see them taking Melo for free, tbh.
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#1135 » by GIMME_DATT » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:32 am

duetta wrote:Since the Nets have no reason to tank, with their pick belonging to Boston, how about Anthony and Plumlee or O'Quinn for Mozgov and Booker? Anthony wouldn't be moving...and I would imagine that Mozgov would be a lot easier to move.

Lakers had to a use young asset in Russell to get rid of mozgov contract
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#1136 » by BLACKFEET 2010 » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:34 am

Basketball-as in actually winning basketball-is never on the top of the totem pole for Melo.
It's fact and not a knock.
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Post#1137 » by duetta » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:35 am

GIMME_DATT wrote:Lakers had to a use young asset in Russell to get rid of mozgov contract


Because they were looking to clear cap for next off-season. We're not in that position. There's nobody like Paul George itching to sign here next off-season.
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#1138 » by god shammgod » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:37 am

it would be funny to watch the melo/lin nets battle the knicks. they'd probably be better than us.
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#1139 » by Billy Goat » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:38 am

Sark wrote:Looks like Starbury 2.0 it shall be.


My guess is they use the stretch prov.
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Re: official Melo trade speculation - thread 2 

Post#1140 » by DOT » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:41 am

god shammgod wrote:it would be funny to watch the melo/lin nets battle the knicks. they'd probably be better than us.

I'd hope so, gives us a better pick
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