The Pursuit of Paul George

[Green_teamer]

In most other eras, yes, I think you're right - that's about as close to the Pistons model as folks might get. Unfortunately the Warriors already have 2 first bananas and 2 second bananas. It'd take a Durant/Curry injury IMO for even the Isaiah/Hayward/George/Horford combo to beat the Dubs.

That said, those two are injury prone and maybe I am underselling the C's/Stevens' ability to maximize talent once they gel.

We won't win right away sure but consider this..


Are the Warriors going to get better the next few years? They are as good as they are going to get

while we would have

Tatum Brown and Brooklyn 18 and Zizic getting better every year. No reason we couldn't win it all in 3 years

Well, Curry is 29, Klay 27, Dray is 27, KD is 28; plus they have McCaw and just added Bell and will repeatedly add ring-chaser vets on the cheap each season.

Point is, I wouldn't expect some sort of tail-off from the Dubs.

If Ainge assembles that "core four" without gutting all the future pieces like Tatum/Brown/BKN 18/LAL 18/Zizic - I'd be fine with it. I'd also just know that's likely to come up short without a Dubs injury or one of those young upside pieces becoming a star.

In a few years there tax bill could become like 300 million. I understand he'd like to pay the tax but at a certain point you start losing too much money no?

[truth18]

Now that's a bold statement. Not saying its wrong, just bold.

It's wrong.

Curry is a great scorer but he's not much better than IT on d. George is a complete two way player.

This is nonsense. Maybe you think things will change but he's a borderline top ten player as of now. Curry is top four.

[Green_teamer]

It's wrong.

Curry is a great scorer but he's not much better than IT on d. George is a complete two way player.

This is nonsense. Maybe you think things will change but he's a borderline top ten player as of now. Curry is top four.

Which statement I just made do you think is false?

[ajones9219]

In most other eras, yes, I think you're right - that's about as close to the Pistons model as folks might get. Unfortunately the Warriors already have 2 first bananas and 2 second bananas. It'd take a Durant/Curry injury IMO for even the Isaiah/Hayward/George/Horford combo to beat the Dubs.

That said, those two are injury prone and maybe I am underselling the C's/Stevens' ability to maximize talent once they gel.

We won't win right away sure but consider this..


Are the Warriors going to get better the next few years? They are as good as they are going to get

while we would have

Tatum Brown and Brooklyn 18 and Zizic getting better every year. No reason we couldn't win it all in 3 years

Well, Curry is 29, Klay 27, Dray is 27, KD is 28; plus they have McCaw and just added Bell and will repeatedly add ring-chaser vets on the cheap each season.

Point is, I wouldn't expect some sort of tail-off from the Dubs.

If Ainge assembles that "core four" without gutting all the future pieces like Tatum/Brown/BKN 18/LAL 18/Zizic - I'd be fine with it. I'd also just know that's likely to come up short without a Dubs injury or one of those young upside pieces becoming a star.

They don’t have to tail off. One of our young guys has to hit. But yeah people underestimate that roster under Stephens imo

[truth18]

Curry is a great scorer but he's not much better than IT on d. George is a complete two way player.

This is nonsense. Maybe you think things will change but he's a borderline top ten player as of now. Curry is top four.

Which statement I just made do you think is false?

The one where you implied we would be better off with George than Curry.

[165bows]

Put it this way. The unprecedented improvements made by Thomas, Bradley and Crowder (and a group of others around the league including James Harden) came when teams fully implemented an inverted offense for the first time.

Neither George nor Hayward have ever had the experience of playing in that type of offense the way Thomas et al did this year.

[Green_teamer]

This is nonsense. Maybe you think things will change but he's a borderline top ten player as of now. Curry is top four.

Which statement I just made do you think is false?

The one where you implied we would be better off with George than Curry.

Yes I do. I think

IT/Smart/George/Hayward/Horford

Fits better and is more complete on Defence* side of the court than

IT/Curry/Smart/Hayward/Horford

We would once again be really small and our D would be atrocious

[Ben-N1ce]

Curry is better than PG. If we replaced Bradley with Curry the Celtics would likely havethe best offense in the league with the floor spacing he provides, his play making and all the damn wide open shots he'd get. He'd probably hit 5-10 tre's a game. Him with Bradley looks scores 8-10 points more a game in his sleep.

[truth18]

Which statement I just made do you think is false?

The one where you implied we would be better off with George than Curry.

Yes I do. I think

IT/Smart/George/Hayward/Horford

Fits better and is more complete on Defence* side of the court than

IT/Curry/Smart/Hayward/Horford

We would once again be really small and our D would be atrocious

You have been posting a lot of great content recently and i appreciate that effort/your forum presence, so don't take it personally when I say that I think you are incredibly off base here.

Superstars like Curry are a HUGE free agent draw, and he is simply in another class entirely than Paul George. His defense isn't even bad, it's just mediocre.

[ViperGTS]

George isn't a star?

Nope. Not on the level of those guys. Don't hear his name in MVP talk.

PG has the potential to be the best player on the court in any given game or series. He is without question a star. PG with the right guys around him can do serious damage. You can split hairs and say he isn't better than this guy or that guy but him not being a star is just nonsense.

Oh come on. He's not AD. Or Lebron. Or KD. Or Harden. Or Westbrook.

He's a better version of Jimmy Butler. And a cut below the true "stars".

[truth18]

Nope. Not on the level of those guys. Don't hear his name in MVP talk.

PG has the potential to be the best player on the court in any given game or series. He is without question a star. PG with the right guys around him can do serious damage. You can split hairs and say he isn't better than this guy or that guy but him not being a star is just nonsense.

Oh come on. He's not AD. Or Lebron. Or KD. Or Harden. Or Westbrook.

He's a better version of Jimmy Butler. And a cut below the true "stars".

This. I would be thrilled to acquire him, but let's not go crazy here before we even get him.

[Smog]

Man, is it going to be dark around here when we strike out with Hayward, Griffin, and George, and we're trying to talk ourselves into the max for Paul Millsap.

[Green_teamer]

The one where you implied we would be better off with George than Curry.

Yes I do. I think

IT/Smart/George/Hayward/Horford

Fits better and is more complete on Defence* side of the court than

IT/Curry/Smart/Hayward/Horford

We would once again be really small and our D would be atrocious

You have been posting a lot of great content recently and i appreciate that effort/your forum presence, so don't take it personally when I say that I think you are incredibly off base here.

Superstars like Curry are a HUGE free agent draw, and he is simply in another class entirely than Paul George. His defense isn't even bad, it's just mediocre.

Ha I'm a big boy I can take criticism. Curry is a star and a great player but he's not as good as Lebron/Khwai/KD/AD

I think your either massively over rating Currys impact or massively Underrating George's impact. I don't think the margin is as wide as you think

[BannerStatus]

It's wrong.

Curry is a great scorer but he's not much better than IT on d. George is a complete two way player.

This is nonsense. Maybe you think things will change but he's a borderline top ten player as of now. Curry is top four.

Truth, why is this nonsense? We're splitting hairs between top 10 and top 4. Which I would dispute that Curry is Top 4, but if so - let's go with it. Top 10 on a terrible team of nobodies, carrying them vs. top 4 soft one way player playing surrounded by all-stars.

It's not nonsense. You're welcome to your opinion. It doesn't make you right, or me right. It's not like I'm saying I'd take JR Smith over him.

It's a borderline top 10 player that plays 2-ways at a more premium positions vs. a one-way, soft, injury prone player that plays an inferior positions.

It's not nonsense. It's definitely debatable.

[OFWGKTA]

George is the only guy I'm confident could outplay Lebron or Durant in a given series.

Edit: I'd give that to Kawhi too actually

[robdog_5]

We may strike out on the FA's because that process is not really as easy as being portrayed. Horford signing and Durant almost signing with Boston along with our HC's prior relationship and his reputation around league has us confident on Hayward. Griffen I'm not sure why there is confidence other than we have a good situation and he may actually want to get away from CP3.

As for George I think we can get him no matter what. It's a matter of if we want him considering he alone won't put us over the top. So do you get him and try to convince him to sign the 3 year re-up extension talked about and give himself $17 more million dollars over the next 3 years and make him eligible for super max at 30 which is the high end.

[tlee324]

I'd take Curry over George overall, but defensively obviously George is the superior defender. Curry brings more to the table with his passing, floor spacing, and defensive attention. Thomas is only comparable in that he also commands defensive attention but he lacks the height to pass accurately out of double teams consistently, therefore isn't the playmaker Curry is. Thomas would thrive greatly in a squad like GSW that features multiple shot creators, defenders and playmakers

[DarkAzcura]

We may strike out on the FA's because that process is not really as easy as being portrayed. Horford signing and Durant almost signing with Boston along with our HC's prior relationship and his reputation around league has us confident on Hayward. Griffen I'm not sure why there is confidence other than we have a good situation and he may actually want to get away from CP3.

As for George I think we can get him no matter what. It's a matter of if we want him considering he alone won't put us over the top. So do you get him and try to convince him to sign the 3 year re-up extension talked about and give himself $17 more million dollars over the next 3 years and make him eligible for super max at 30 which is the high end.

There's honestly a lot more smoke to Griffin being interested in here than Hayward. All there is with Hayward is that him and Stevens may want to give it a go again. I've never really heard anything about Hayward in relation to Boston other than Stevens. At least with Griffin, you have him anonymously (it was definitely him) saying how awesome the crowds are in Boston every time Pierce came to town, and he also listed Boston on his Mt Rushmore of NBA cities. I don't even want him, but he's clearly interested in Boston, IMO.

Now there may not be much out of Hayward's camp the last couple years because they may want to avoid a tampering charge but who knows.

[Banks2Pierce]

We may strike out on the FA's because that process is not really as easy as being portrayed.

I just hope Hayward and/or Griffin meets us early on in the process. So many names and options come off the board early on.

[FakeScreenName123]

It's too early in the offseason for this garbage.